[QUOTE] [b]Mercury. wrote:[/b]
Young Music Fan : I have posted 3434 messages and you 745 so you shut the fuck up as you have no taste in rock music if you think Lambert
is god the you need new ears.
King Mercury end off.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying Adam is better, I've never said that.
Freddie is the best but what I don't understand is that if people want to talk about AL let them at the end of the day this part of the site is to talk about AL not FM. Just let them do it because they are in the right not you
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[QUOTE] [b]Young Music Fan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]MisterCosmicc wrote:[/b]
She obviously hated being put in her place about Freddie’s sexuality. Her thinking a gay man needs to express it more in a different, more outlandish way. Why can’t they be themselves? Ridiculous. Freddie did exactly what he wanted,[/QUOTE]
Freddie was Freddie. At least some of us here respect him for that. Most do, except for an extremely bitter Glambert.[/QUOTE]
In the same way you two come across as bitter Queen fans. Bye bye, I'm going to the moderated forum[/QUOTE]
First off I'm not bitter. Secondly, at least I can say I'm a Queen fan. Thridly, it's not the same at all.
My saying Freddie was Freddie and he's still respected by most here is hardly bitter.
As for that forum, let's hope you don't tell people you disagree with to STFU over there like you do here.
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Just let people talk about AL on the Q+AL part of the site and not squabble to them if they post more about him than they do about FM. Or, if they post all positively about AL and you don't like it - DEAL WITH IT!
You seem to have a real problem with Glamberts not understanding certain Queen dates, does it matter that much?
I haven't seen you post outside the Q+AL for weeks or dare I say months. IMO you're either a secret AL fan or you just love trolling, telling people off or your bitter because you always post on here.
[QUOTE] [b]Mercury. wrote:[/b]
Yes of course they can discuss Adam but not at Freddie's expense by thinking he did not matter.
If it was not for Freddie then Adam would not be well known.[/QUOTE]
Yes I actually agree with you for once as it annoys me too but if it hasn't changed in years then it's not going to change now, so you all may as well stop going on about it.
[QUOTE] [b]Young Music Fan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Young Music Fan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]MisterCosmicc wrote:[/b]
She obviously hated being put in her place about Freddie’s sexuality. Her thinking a gay man needs to express it more in a different, more outlandish way. Why can’t they be themselves? Ridiculous. Freddie did exactly what he wanted,[/QUOTE]
Freddie was Freddie. At least some of us here respect him for that. Most do, except for an extremely bitter Glambert.[/QUOTE]
In the same way you two come across as bitter Queen fans. Bye bye, I'm going to the moderated forum[/QUOTE]
First off I'm not bitter. Secondly, at least I can say I'm a Queen fan. Thridly, it's not the same at all.
My saying Freddie was Freddie and he's still respected by most here is hardly bitter.
As for that forum, let's hope you don't tell people you disagree with to STFU over there like you do here.
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Just let people talk about AL on the Q+AL part of the site and not squabble to them if they post more about him than they do about FM. Or, if they post all positively about AL and you don't like it - DEAL WITH IT!
You seem to have a real problem with Glamberts not understanding certain Queen dates, does it matter that much?
I haven't seen you post outside the Q+AL for weeks or dare I say months. IMO you're either a secret AL fan or you just love trolling, telling people off or your bitter because you always post on here.[/QUOTE]
Yet, there is a person here who Fresno even want Freddie name to be mentioned in here. Funny what you notice and don't notice, isn't it.
Why can't a Glambert or two here under that Freddie and Queen will be discussed in here, you know on a Queen board. You should be saying deal with it to snifflese... but of course you won't and of course you go right for me again. You aren't the first Lambert fan who has done that.
Yes, it does matter when two Glamberts here come here bigging up AL, and barely discuss Freddie or Queen unless the shock horror that he showed his bare chest, went barefoot onstage while drooling over Lambert. Yes, it matters when two people here don't know and don't care to know at least some things about Freddie's and Queen history...but oh let's knock Freddie down because of they want to get back because of what was said about AL. Tit for tat basically. Your slience about snifflese mouthing off about Freddie in her recent posts says it all.
Oh, you are another who tracks my posts, I discuss Freddie and Queen more on QOL but yes indeed, i have dis ussed them on QZ
as well. can say at least I do discuss Queen and Freddie on Queen boards unlike two Glamberts here who are only here to promote and defend Lambert. I don't even know what Queen and Freddie songs that are snifflese's favorites and least favorites. She doesn't have the time too look up things about Queen and Freddie...yet she can come here stirring the shit even when I am not posting as it happens. Happened days ago, but of course if she comes by she will say she only mentioned me because someone else did first, but that person didn't have a go at me, she did. Couldn't help it apparently
You don't surprise me at all that you are looking at it from one side only and taking that side, young music fan. I don't know if you have any hard feelings about me, but I wish you would look at it from all sides. You obviously don't. Just don't come here snapping at me, from my post count, to your thinking I don't discuss Freddie or Queen in the Queen threads. Sorry, that's bullshit. I just don't it more on QOL than here.
I love music, some music more than others. Heck, I absolutely love feel something by Lambert, and of course I love much of Queen's music, not everything of course. I'm ok with that. I like a heck of alot of music and many genres. Yea, I even like some of Adam's music, there you go. In front of you, Mercury, snifflese I say I like some of his music...of course who will be the one to bitch at me for liking it...big tip, it isn't Mercury.
[QUOTE] [b]Mercury. wrote:[/b]
Some Adam fans may appreciate Freddie made Queen work brilliantly apart from SweetCarloine who takes it a level higher by completely dismissing Freddie
and with rose tinted glasses on says it was Adam that got Queen famous again, comments like that make my blood boil.[/QUOTE]
Snifflese does that too, maybe even more so. SweetCaroline just gives lip service when she says Freddie is irreplaceable...almost as if she feels she has to say that.
Both come here promoting AL while pretty much not caring about the history behind the music. Snifflese mouthing off about Freddie in her recent posts, going as far as to say Freddie friends weren't very nice people...that just one example...it's pretty fkd up.
And I'm the horrible person here she wants everyone to believe ...the irony.
[QUOTE] [b]Young Music Fan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Mercury. wrote:[/b]
Yes of course they can discuss Adam but not at Freddie's expense by thinking he did not matter.
If it was not for Freddie then Adam would not be well known.[/QUOTE]
Yes I actually agree with you for once as it annoys me too but if it hasn't changed in years then it's not going to change now, so you all may as well stop going on about it. [/QUOTE]
And here you are sticking your nose in, just saying ;-).
Sniffy hasn’t listened to any music for more than month. What kind of person does that? Makes no sense. She must be lonely. I mean, does it sound like she’s a big fan of even Adam if she doesn’t listen to him? She must only care about his personal life, instead of the music.
What it means is that I am really busy and have a life, so music is not on my mind right now!
I could care less about Adam's personal life unlike some people on here that think they know every facet of Freddie;s life better than Brian and Roger!
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
I could care less about Adam's personal life unlike some people on here that think they know every facet of Freddie;s life better than Brian and Roger![/QUOTE]
Oh dear. You sound pissed off again. You had no problems mouthing off about Freddie’s personal life, funny enough, everything from his sexuality, to his friends being not very nice people.
No one here has said that they know every facet of Freddie life than Brian and Roger. Some of us do know a heck of alot more than what you mouthing ever could know.
I don't buy that you are too busy, you just don't care unless it involves AL.
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
It was the 70's and 80's and men did not go out of their way to announce that they were gay. People could surmise all they wanted, but no one knew for sure. There wasn't 24/7 news for all the casual fans to know that Freddie was gay. Why didn't he ever come out and say so or only admit to AIDS just before he died. I just read today and Brian said they really weren't totally sure what Freddie was as to Bi or gay. I don't think the general public knew for sure what he was and I sure many didn't even thank about it. It is only you obsessed people who think you know everything. If his mates didn't, not sure how you did. Thank you very much, but I am not stupid and once again thanks for that. The bottom line is that it is 2020 and you have no idea in hell as to what Freddie would have been doing the last 15 years or so. I think he would have loved make up and fancy clothes. Look at Elton John? They can go for it now whereas back then, they could not. To me your thoughts don't make sense to me.
I am also amazed at how much time, Cosmic, you spend looking up Adam's fashions and all these other things. Why would you do that since you dislke him quite a bit? You are turning into another Runner here. By the way I can pull up thousands of nice pics of Adam wearing the most wonderful suits. He doesn't show up at the Grammy's, or Kennedy Center or on TV wearing flamboyant items. There are 100 regular looking outfits for every crazy one and concert clothes don't count. Lately he has worn stranger clothes but they harken back to the 1970's and "80, velvet leisure suits with bell bottoms. That is for the vibe of his new album. I remember straight guys back in the day wearing stuff that was very similar. Adam does not dress like a woman, nor is his fashion too feminine and he knows what is appropriate, so quit with the trash talk since it isn't factual. By the way you will not find Adam in athletic gear since that is also not his thing. You are just looking for ways to demean him!
I am not sure who you think Adam is/was hanging out with? He hangs with other gay guys! I don't think the wild crowd Freddie got into in the 80's included a bunch of really nice young men, oh wait, that was all they included! You have a lot of nerve to talk about Adam the way you do. He comes from a wonderful loving family who had no issues with him regarding sexuality and he still has the same group of super friends, both male and female to hang with and keep him grounded. I have never heard one of his past boy friends, or anyone, trash talk about him. He is supposed to be a great guy and you obviously are not, since you are always trying to bring him down. I think if you researched the wild lifestyle of Freddie in the 80's and Adam's now, I know who would definitely not be the choirboy. Freddie was just lucky that the paparazzi leeches are not like they are now, or pseudo- friends with the camera who post awful stuff about their so called Friends. I have read about Freddie's lifestyle and parties and it was out there. You never see any of that stuff about Adam. If he did that in this day and age, it would be all over the internet. I think you are totally off base, as usual, just making up stuff.[/QUOTE]
Where you mouthed off about Freddie's person life. Please don't ever claim again that you are a Freddie and Queen fan.
If you would like me to spam a bunch of articles I just read within the last week, I can go on a spamming spree. I am making nothing up. Brian and his band mates were worried about Freddie's lifestyle and people he was hanging out with at one point in his life. It was a hedonistic type of life style and probably how he got Aids. If that doesn't fit into your view of him as a choirboy, not my problem. You can't change the facts, as they are what they are.
It was also mentioned numerous times that Brian never really knew if Freddie was gay or bisexual, so it wasn't cut and dried, as to his persuasion among his best buddies. That was probably why Adam said Freddie could have been bi when he was asked the question when the movie BR came out. You threw a hissy fit that Adam would answer that, it wasn't his business and that wasn't right. Obviously even to this day, there must be questions with his band mates or I am sure Adam would not have answered the way he did. He said that Brian and Roger had discussed and told many stories, so I am sure that came from Brian and Roger. I read what I read and that is all I know. You people seem to selectively pick and choose and disregard what doesn't fit the hallowed narrative. I take the good with the bad and don't pretend that it is otherwise. Once again, your problem, not mine. There is no mouthing off in my post, it is simply things I read in the last week or so. You are the one always telling me to learn the history, so I did some reading. Sorry if it doesn't match your worldview.
By the way, being out to your gay buddies like Halford does not mean he was honest with everyone else about it and that the whole world and all the causal fans knew for sure. There is a big difference.
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
If you would like me to spam a bunch of articles I just read within the last week, I can go on a spamming spree. I am making nothing up. Brian and his band mates were worried about Freddie's lifestyle and people he was hanging out with at one point in his life. It was a hedonistic type of life style and probably how he got Aids. If that doesn't fit into your view of him as a choirboy, not my problem. You can't change the facts, as they are what they are.
It was also mentioned numerous times that Brian never really knew if Freddie was gay or bisexual, so it wasn't cut and dried, as to his persuasion among his best buddies. That was probably why Adam said Freddie could have been bi when he was asked the question when the movie BR came out. You threw a hissy fit that Adam would answer that, it wasn't his business and that wasn't right. Obviously even to this day, there must be questions with his band mates or I am sure Adam would not have answered the way he did. He said that Brian and Roger had discussed and told many stories, so I am sure that came from Brian and Roger. I read what I read and that is all I know. You people seem to selectively pick and choose and disregard what doesn't fit the hallowed narrative. I take the good with the bad and don't pretend that it is otherwise. Once again, your problem, not mine. There is no mouthing off in my post, it is simply things I read in the last week or so. You are the one always telling me to learn the history, so I did some reading. Sorry if it doesn't match your worldview.
By the way, being out to your gay buddies like Halford does not mean he was honest with everyone else about it and that the whole world and all the causal fans knew for sure. There is a big difference. [/QUOTE]
Posted those articles that you have read then, go right ahead. It's one thing for Brian to speak about Freddie sexuality, but I doubt he did it the way you posted in this thread. Go on, post what you have been reading in the last week.
I know Freddie wasn't a "choirboy" as you put it. What's your point?
Post the "facts" snifflese or shut up. You barely discussed Freddie's music much at all, if ever, but it sounds you are being smug in hour mouthing off what you think you know about Freddie's personal life.
You and AL are not and never will will be the voices for Freddie. It wasn't AL's place to speak about Freddie’s sexuality, he didn't even know if he was gay or bisexual, or how in or out of the closet Freddie was. He wasn't close with Freddie, he never even knew the guy. I still stand by that wasn't his place. The day AL has to talk about Freddie’s sexuality to get press for himself , its a very sad day IMO. If anyone belived your shit here that you are spewing they would think Freddie was in denial about his sexuality, and you even asked why he waited so long to admit he had AIDS. And you take no notice of the answer I gave you of course. You'd rather bleat on about how you think poor AL is treated here, but you are worse to mouth off about Freddie on a Queen board. You have no shame I think. I can see you turning on Brian and Roger in the year until the next tour starts. God knows you have no respect for Freddie at all, not for his talent, music or courage, or even paving the way for AL.
Btw, Freddie and Halford were not buddies. They never even met, but Halford respects Freddie which you would know that if you were the big hard rock fan that you like to claim. Freddie and Halford looked at each other from across the bar, did you even read what I posted?
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
If you would like me to spam a bunch of articles I just read within the last week, I can go on a spamming spree. I am making nothing up. Brian and his band mates were worried about Freddie's lifestyle and people he was hanging out with at one point in his life. It was a hedonistic type of life style and probably how he got Aids. If that doesn't fit into your view of him as a choirboy, not my problem. You can't change the facts, as they are what they are.
It was also mentioned numerous times that Brian never really knew if Freddie was gay or bisexual, so it wasn't cut and dried, as to his persuasion among his best buddies. That was probably why Adam said Freddie could have been bi when he was asked the question when the movie BR came out. You threw a hissy fit that Adam would answer that, it wasn't his business and that wasn't right. Obviously even to this day, there must be questions with his band mates or I am sure Adam would not have answered the way he did. He said that Brian and Roger had discussed and told many stories, so I am sure that came from Brian and Roger. I read what I read and that is all I know. You people seem to selectively pick and choose and disregard what doesn't fit the hallowed narrative. I take the good with the bad and don't pretend that it is otherwise. Once again, your problem, not mine. There is no mouthing off in my post, it is simply things I read in the last week or so. You are the one always telling me to learn the history, so I did some reading. Sorry if it doesn't match your worldview.
By the way, being out to your gay buddies like Halford does not mean he was honest with everyone else about it and that the whole world and all the causal fans knew for sure. There is a big difference. [/QUOTE]
That’s the problem. He didn’t need to.
How often do you feel compelled to tell people you are straight?
Freddie was rarely asked if he was gay. Articles published back then listed him as gay or bisexual. He didn’t argue that.
Remember when Freddie was asked if I Want To Break Free was dedicated to gays? “No, besides I didn’t write it...”
He didn’t need to go into it further. Why should anyone? Who feels compelled to talk about their sexuality? Freddie LOVED the mystique, “if you see it, then it’s there.”
The problem with the world is that they think people need to discuss those things. Why should an artist discuss them at all? Freddie was satisfied with life. Do you think if he did interviews about being gay that it’d help him?
He didn’t play dress up at home, and everyone there was gay... and he had had sex with half the household.
How did he hide his sexuality? What do you think he should have done about his sexuality? Have a press conference about it?
Making such a big deal about these things is something that oppresses some gays. You don’t see straight people needing to publicly announce their sexuality because of people like you who think they need to publicly announce it.
As for Brian, sure he was worried. Freddie was having so much random sex. Who denied that? Who said he’s a choirboy? Freddie’s even discussed herpes at Queen concerts to the audience. He admitted in interviews about his sex drive numerous times, he said he had more lovers than Liz Taylor. Let’s keep in mind that Brian’s no choirboy, either, with that old habit of cheating. In the long run, you should listen to those who were part of Freddie’s personal entourage... the other members of Queen were not part of it.
Icy said I was mouthing off bringing up things and saying some of his friends were not particularly nice. That is the truth from what I have read. Icy seems to take umbrage at everything that is said, truth or not, and doesn't want to hear anything but glowing commentary. Ask her what her problem is why don't you. You folks can say whatever you like and when someone says something different, you all cry foul. I could care less if he was gay or what his personal life was like to be honest. But you guys can't talk about Adam's friends and how gay and weird they are and then forget Freddie wasn't any different. That is what bothers me. I don't care about a person's sexual orientation now. That is the individual's business. But back then in the time of Aids it was a big deal and I don't think Freddie was as honest about it as you all seem to think. Not many people were forthcoming back then and I don't blame them a bit. It took Elton until the early 90's and a lot of people never made a statement. We are not talking nowadays. Well, if only Freddie's personal entourage was privy to his personal life, it can't have been that well or widely known, which is what one of you was posting yesterday, which I was trying to point out. I am done with the subject because i could really care less, but don't criticize Adam and his friends when there is all this back history for someone else.
