I just don't understand why some Queen fans (Adam haters) on here get so personal about these things. Just shut the fuck up!!!!
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Young Music Fan wrote:
I just don't understand why some Queen fans (Adam haters) on here get so personal about these things. Just shut the fuck up!!!!
It works both ways. Sniffy goaded Icy when Icy had been silent for days ... and here we are.
http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1586852/breaking-news-iron-butterfly-owns-this-forum.aspx?page=5
Iron Butterfly wrote:
snifflese wrote:
Yep, St. Juib goes out of his way to say condescending things. He is a complete minion of Icy's and that is one lady I am not going to respond to. It is like talking to a wall, nothing computes that I say and before we know it we are stirring the sh... Talk about someone who can't tolerate any opinion but her own. You can't handle any opinions unless they are Freddie obsessed individuals. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! That just gave me the best laugh of the day. I just can't deal with that nonsense and I am at the point that you are included in that group. Didn't have a single problem with anyone else yesterday. I have told you numerous times that I don't post at all on Adamtopia. I scroll quickly through every few days. I think that it would be better for Adam fans, if you posted on a Queen specific thread and not on the QAL thread as you are quite the sh.. stirrer yourself on here!
Why the hell are you even bringing me up when I haven't been posting at all lately? You can't keep myou name out of your posts even when I'm not around.
Man, you have issues.
It was because someone else said I always have issues with Icy and obviously that had to be my fault. I was replying to that post. It had nothing to do with whether or not Icy was posting at that moment. I am tired of people thinking I start stuff up. Just like this thread from yesterday, someone here can have a conversation going on with someone else and she always starts with the downgrading Freddie and the shit stirring. I am just tired of it.
You were mentioned St Juib, because you made two unflattering remarks about me for no good reason. I remember two posts with crap and hypocrite and I just won't have it. If everyone else chooses to ignore the nasty behavior, so be it, but I am not. I only wrote that because of the comments you made on here. The discussion had to do with Adam's voice and how it sounds. It isn't crap that hearing it in the venue could be very different than most of the fan's recordings and streams. I don't think you have to hear Freddie live as everyone knows he sings loudly with force. I am sure it would be even better in concert. But that is not the case with Adam. I have seen him enough times to know he sounds much better singing live. That doesn't make me a hypocrite because I believe that to really fully appreciate Adam's voice, you need to hear it live. Don't call me names and the discussion would go a lot smoother. Since you have not heard him live, you don't have any idea. I told you that there are many articles and things on social media that mention this fact. But of course, I have to be some kind of a liar or a hypocrite.
You were mentioned St Juib, because you made two unflattering remarks about me for no good reason. I remember two posts with crap and hypocrite and I just won't have it. If everyone else chooses to ignore the nasty behavior, so be it, but I am not. I only wrote that because of the comments you made on here. The discussion had to do with Adam's voice and how it sounds. It isn't crap that hearing it in the venue could be very different than most of the fan's recordings and streams. I don't think you have to hear Freddie live as everyone knows he sings loudly with force. I am sure it would be even better in concert. But that is not the case with Adam. I have seen him enough times to know he sounds much better singing live. That doesn't make me a hypocrite because I believe that to really fully appreciate Adam's voice, you need to hear it live. Don't call me names and the discussion would go a lot smoother. Since you have not heard him live, you don't have any idea. I told you that there are many articles and things on social media that mention this fact. But of course, I have to be some kind of a liar or a hypocrite.
I wanted to mention one other thing. I find it really upsetting that these threads cannot be utilized for their actual purpose, which is to talk about QAL and Adam and Brian and Roger. It would be one thing if you haters had respectful disagreements. You don't have to like him or what he does or anything, but you are just so mean about it. Then you always cut down the posters and Icy chimes in constantly with the bigging up, if we are trying to say something we like, then off she goes onto the shit stirring and gosh knows what else. I can just imagine how well posters on the Queen threads would like that behavior if every conversation was sabotaged like that. It is beyond annoying seeing her do it to me and others for years now. I am sure some of you adam haters would be really unhappy if that was going on in other parts of the forum. This is after all a fan forum at the end of the day and most folks on here are not fans, which is not how it is supposed to work. It is really depressing.
It’s for Paul Rodgers, too. Let’s get back into that. Queen Tour 2008.
snifflese wrote:
Since you have not heard him live, you don't have any idea.
That is just your way of attempting to stifle disagreement and discredit opinions from those who do not like AL.
Of course one can discern basic vocal characteristics from a variety of audience concert recordings, and offer a legitimate opinion on AL's performance.
If AL's vocal recording quality was so poor, why would anyone bother posting links to these audience recordings?
I will continue replying to you, when you portray your biased opinions as facts, and as you continue to automatically belittle any contrary opinions about AL.
snifflese wrote:
It would have been so much worse today, Icy. The media knows everything about you. They guessed back then and had some pics, but the true extent was not out there for everybody to dissect like it would have been today. Sure he was hounded because he was gay, but that is why I think cosmic is stupid to say that everyone knew and he didn't hide it. Of course, he did. I would have, too. That is why I think he got more conservative in dress and manner later in life because he didn't want everyone to know what was going on. Today that wouldn't be a problem at all, so I believe he would have been free to be more flamboyant and let it all hang out. It was a horrible time back then for anyone gay, but that is why I don't think you can predict his behavior now since there is an entirely different mindset now. You always act as if you knew him intimately. So weird!
Get over your Freddie obsession. I don't have worry about Freddie, as that is not my job. You do it so nicely. How many millions a year do you get for such a wonderful job, (like you are always asking SC, but about being on Adam's payroll, stupid, right?), you take it to the absolute extreme! Are you related or something that you just have a rage when you don't think Freddie gets enough praise? I personally am sich\k and tired of you bigging up Freddie here on this QAL thread! Does that sound like someone you know? You need to sit in a closet with no devices and take a chill pill. You might feel better! When you see the stupid things you say, turned back at you, maybe you can see why they are so dumb and annoying.
You are so ignorant about Freddie Mercury. You sound like someone who just learned of him a few hours ago.
Where the fuck did you hear he was in the closet? None of his friends said he was. None of the band said that. He was showing up to gay bars, introducing Jim as his wife, etc. Where the fuck do you get your information? Adamtopia? (Bullshit that you’re not a member).
Please stop with the ignorance.
Freddie turned to the gay clone macho look in 1980. It was slowly building up to that. If you knew about Freddie, you’d know this... near the end of the 70’s, some gays put Freddie on blast in clubs for not having the clone look and being old fashioned. “An old Queen.” You should read books about Freddie, you’d learn a thing or two. Freddie put a more rebellious edge on Queen’s music at the same time. Freddie did follow some trends. Freddie adopted the gay macho look... and he was very visibly gay. His regular mannerisms were more gay than Adam’s when Adam is being casual.
Freddie’s fan base has largely been straight, heterosexual men... most gays then and to present day do not usually get into the rock music which Queen were known for. Gays tended to enjoy electronica and disco... Hot Space tracks aren’t even disco enough for them.
The fans knew Freddie was gay. The public knew he was gay. Even hardcore, conservative Republicans. It’s about the music, not the sexuality.
The Great Pretender was conservative?
Barcelona was a serious album, during the sessions of which Freddie was told he had full-blown AIDS. The tracks were being performed with Montserrat. It was the most serious album performed. The tracks aren’t hilarious.
The Miracle album was Queen getting back to the basics. I’m not sure what Freddie had to do to prove his sexuality here. You act as if Freddie dressed as a woman Regularly until the last years of his life.
Innuendo? Headlong is a hard rocker, Freddie dressed the part. He loved that sweat shirt he wore in the video... it was part of his regular wardrobe off stage while at home. I’m Going Slightly Mad and These Are The Days Of Our Lives don’t appear to be heterosexual pieces to me. Freddie also deliberately shaved his beard off for those last two videos. What did Freddie grow a beard for? To hide Kaposi Sarcoma lesions. Why did Freddie hide his AIDS diagnosis? In his words, to not have his records bought out of sympathy. To keep the focus on music. It had nothing to do with sexuality.
Do you think by then the public magically forgot about Freddie’s antics? His hardcore gay club tee-shirts on stage and in videos? His attendance to hundreds of gay clubs and bathhouses worldwide?
Please, don’t be like SweetCaroline by ignoring this... I truly want to know how the fuck was Freddie hiding his sexuality during his final years? Did you ever see how Freddie dressed while in his own house around his gay friends? Was there things he needed to do to show his sexuality?
MisterCosmicc wrote:
snifflese wrote:
It would have been so much worse today, Icy. The media knows everything about you. They guessed back then and had some pics, but the true extent was not out there for everybody to dissect like it would have been today. Sure he was hounded because he was gay, but that is why I think cosmic is stupid to say that everyone knew and he didn't hide it. Of course, he did. I would have, too. That is why I think he got more conservative in dress and manner later in life because he didn't want everyone to know what was going on. Today that wouldn't be a problem at all, so I believe he would have been free to be more flamboyant and let it all hang out. It was a horrible time back then for anyone gay, but that is why I don't think you can predict his behavior now since there is an entirely different mindset now. You always act as if you knew him intimately. So weird!
Get over your Freddie obsession. I don't have worry about Freddie, as that is not my job. You do it so nicely. How many millions a year do you get for such a wonderful job, (like you are always asking SC, but about being on Adam's payroll, stupid, right?), you take it to the absolute extreme! Are you related or something that you just have a rage when you don't think Freddie gets enough praise? I personally am sich\k and tired of you bigging up Freddie here on this QAL thread! Does that sound like someone you know? You need to sit in a closet with no devices and take a chill pill. You might feel better! When you see the stupid things you say, turned back at you, maybe you can see why they are so dumb and annoying.
You are so ignorant about Freddie Mercury. You sound like someone who just learned of him a few hours ago.
Where the fuck did you hear he was in the closet? None of his friends said he was. None of the band said that. He was showing up to gay bars, introducing Jim as his wife, etc. Where the fuck do you get your information? Adamtopia? (Bullshit that you’re not a member).
Please stop with the ignorance.
Freddie turned to the gay clone macho look in 1980. It was slowly building up to that. If you knew about Freddie, you’d know this... near the end of the 70’s, some gays put Freddie on blast in clubs for not having the clone look and being old fashioned. “An old Queen.” You should read books about Freddie, you’d learn a thing or two. Freddie put a more rebellious edge on Queen’s music at the same time. Freddie did follow some trends. Freddie adopted the gay macho look... and he was very visibly gay. His regular mannerisms were more gay than Adam’s when Adam is being casual.
Freddie’s fan base has largely been straight, heterosexual men... most gays then and to present day do not usually get into the rock music which Queen were known for. Gays tended to enjoy electronica and disco... Hot Space tracks aren’t even disco enough for them.
The fans knew Freddie was gay. The public knew he was gay. Even hardcore, conservative Republicans. It’s about the music, not the sexuality.
The Great Pretender was conservative?
Barcelona was a serious album, during the sessions of which Freddie was told he had full-blown AIDS. The tracks were being performed with Montserrat. It was the most serious album performed. The tracks aren’t hilarious.
The Miracle album was Queen getting back to the basics. I’m not sure what Freddie had to do to prove his sexuality here. You act as if Freddie dressed as a woman Regularly until the last years of his life.
Innuendo? Headlong is a hard rocker, Freddie dressed the part. He loved that sweat shirt he wore in the video... it was part of his regular wardrobe off stage while at home. I’m Going Slightly Mad and These Are The Days Of Our Lives don’t appear to be heterosexual pieces to me. Freddie also deliberately shaved his beard off for those last two videos. What did Freddie grow a beard for? To hide Kaposi Sarcoma lesions. Why did Freddie hide his AIDS diagnosis? In his words, to not have his records bought out of sympathy. To keep the focus on music. It had nothing to do with sexuality.
Do you think by then the public magically forgot about Freddie’s antics? His hardcore gay club tee-shirts on stage and in videos? His attendance to hundreds of gay clubs and bathhouses worldwide?
Please, don’t be like SweetCaroline by ignoring this... I truly want to know how the fuck was Freddie hiding his sexuality during his final years? Did you ever see how Freddie dressed while in his own house around his gay friends? Was there things he needed to do to show his sexuality?
Bravo and thanks MisterCosmicc.
snifflese wrote:
I wanted to mention one other thing. I find it really upsetting that these threads cannot be utilized for their actual purpose, which is to talk about QAL and Adam and Brian and Roger. It would be one thing if you haters had respectful disagreements. You don't have to like him or what he does or anything, but you are just so mean about it. Then you always cut down the posters and Icy chimes in constantly with the bigging up, if we are trying to say something we like, then off she goes onto the shit stirring and gosh knows what else. I can just imagine how well posters on the Queen threads would like that behavior if every conversation was sabotaged like that. It is beyond annoying seeing her do it to me and others for years now. I am sure some of you adam haters would be really unhappy if that was going on in other parts of the forum. This is after all a fan forum at the end of the day and most folks on here are not fans, which is not how it is supposed to work. It is really depressing.
Oh in the space of a couple of days you are offended and upset...because your poor little feelings are hurt. Yet, you can sure mouth off about Freddie, I guess slinging shit at posters is no longer good enough for you, now you want to do it about Freddie. You are disgraceful here.
Don't forget, snifflese you came here with an ax to grind about me. You never stopped even when I'm not posting as you have proven. You cant even take your adicell about scrolling past things and ignoring get things, you'd rather try to be a Glambert who is full of butthurt and rage.
Given the fact you are so easily offended, upset and you say it's depressing, then GTFO. This isn't the place for you. I truly believe that you either don't care or realise where you are posting at. Maybe both, because you haven't posted a finger outside of this subforum, do the nerve of you telling Queen fans what you think they should do. Power crazed much?
You aren't even a Freddie fan or a Queen fan, yet you are here bigging up your Idol. Trying to big him up, I feel sorry for the guy having fans like you. I wouldn't even call it being a fan what you do. I've said more genuine things about AL than you ever did about Freddie. Imagine that.
You haters, you haters the two main Glamberts cry time and time again. Just because it's not accepted that not everyone feels the same way as you do about Lambert. Oh noes, someone made fun of Adam, so I'm going to itch about Freddie...
That is sick how your mind works, and I've seen enough of your shit to say that. Have a go at me, it's your usual after all, but you are something else mouthing off about Freddie here. You should be ashamed of yourself.
snifflese wrote:
No, Icy, you are off on your usual tangent. I was merely discussing things with someone else and you don''t like when some of the truth's of Freddie's life come out. I am not bitter. I have said so many times that Adam will never be a Freddie. Are you happy. but his fans should be able to come here and talk about things they like concerning Adam and QAL. We can't do that because of people like you that want a perpetual Freddie love fest, which is not the purpose of the QAL threads. If someone criticizes Adam's dress, Freddie's wild clothes can be brought up. All you want is positivity for Freddie, so go to a Freddie thread for that. There were no arguments with the 3 other posters yesterday talking about Adam and his dress, just some give and take, until you come in with your shit stirring. Then it is all over and I don't believe any one vindictive person should be capable of shutting everything down. That is what you always try to do.
The bitterness oozes from your fingertips. You cant get what you want and need here, oh boo hoo, I feel so sorry for you after the shit you spew...nah, not. You make you feelings and bitterness about Freddie show...and all because someone made fun of Lambert.
Go to Adam to try to send out red alerts again why don't you. Pretty sure you did that as couple of years ago trying to get Glamberts to come here to defend AL and SweetCaroline.
Young Music Fan wrote:
I just don't understand why some Queen fans (Adam haters) on here get so personal about these things. Just shut the fuck up!!!!
Maybe you should ask yourself and everyone else here this, why do some Glamberts namely two here get so personal about these things and tell them to shut the fuck up.
But you won't, cause you are on that side. Always Queen fans as haters, and you have nothing to say about snifflese mouthing of sbout Freddie...but oh poor AL and his fans, right.
Give me a break.
Young Music Fan When you have seen Freddie Mercury live only then may you tell us all to shut the fuck up.
You will then see that Adam Lambert is a pile of trash in comparison.
Only one true brilliant Queen leader and that is Freddie.
You will then see that Adam Lambert is a pile of trash in comparison.
Only one true brilliant Queen leader and that is Freddie.
Well Mercury, you live up to everything I had said. We don't need that on a QAL thread. You don't like Adam, fine, but you don't have to post your ugliness on here. Why do you have the right to totally screw over this part of the forum?
Yea, Icy, people like you and the other Queen fans are mostly rude, nasty haters that for some reason like to belittle Adam and any fans of QAL on here. You should be really proud of yourselves. How can an Adam fan not find Mercury's post above hateful? You do a pretty good job in that dept also, just more insidious. Queen fans in general are fine people, but the lot here are ugly, mean foiks, You keep telling me how wonderful they are, but I have seen no signs of that.
Yea, Icy, people like you and the other Queen fans are mostly rude, nasty haters that for some reason like to belittle Adam and any fans of QAL on here. You should be really proud of yourselves. How can an Adam fan not find Mercury's post above hateful? You do a pretty good job in that dept also, just more insidious. Queen fans in general are fine people, but the lot here are ugly, mean foiks, You keep telling me how wonderful they are, but I have seen no signs of that.
snifflese wrote:
Well Mercury, you live up to everything I had said. We don't need that on a QAL thread. You don't like Adam, fine, but you don't have to post your ugliness on here. Why do you have the right to totally screw over this part of the forum?
Yea, Icy, people like you and the other Queen fans are mostly rude, nasty haters that for some reason like to belittle Adam and any fans of QAL on here. You should be really proud of yourselves. How can an Adam fan not find Mercury's post above hateful? You do a pretty good job in that dept also, just more insidious. Queen fans in general are fine people, but the lot here are ugly, mean foiks, You keep telling me how wonderful they are, but I have seen no signs of that.
Of course you ignored this like your darling, SweetCaroline. Anything with fact against your fiction m, and you both ignore... or go on an anti-Icy tirade.
You are so ignorant about Freddie Mercury. You sound like someone who just learned of him a few hours ago.
Where the fuck did you hear he was in the closet? None of his friends said he was. None of the band said that. He was showing up to gay bars, introducing Jim as his wife, etc. Where the fuck do you get your information? Adamtopia? (Bullshit that you’re not a member).
Please stop with the ignorance.
Freddie turned to the gay clone macho look in 1980. It was slowly building up to that. If you knew about Freddie, you’d know this... near the end of the 70’s, some gays put Freddie on blast in clubs for not having the clone look and being old fashioned. “An old Queen.” You should read books about Freddie, you’d learn a thing or two. Freddie put a more rebellious edge on Queen’s music at the same time. Freddie did follow some trends. Freddie adopted the gay macho look... and he was very visibly gay. His regular mannerisms were more gay than Adam’s when Adam is being casual.
Freddie’s fan base has largely been straight, heterosexual men... most gays then and to present day do not usually get into the rock music which Queen were known for. Gays tended to enjoy electronica and disco... Hot Space tracks aren’t even disco enough for them.
The fans knew Freddie was gay. The public knew he was gay. Even hardcore, conservative Republicans. It’s about the music, not the sexuality.
The Great Pretender was conservative?
Barcelona was a serious album, during the sessions of which Freddie was told he had full-blown AIDS. The tracks were being performed with Montserrat. It was the most serious album performed. The tracks aren’t hilarious.
The Miracle album was Queen getting back to the basics. I’m not sure what Freddie had to do to prove his sexuality here. You act as if Freddie dressed as a woman Regularly until the last years of his life.
Innuendo? Headlong is a hard rocker, Freddie dressed the part. He loved that sweat shirt he wore in the video... it was part of his regular wardrobe off stage while at home. I’m Going Slightly Mad and These Are The Days Of Our Lives don’t appear to be heterosexual pieces to me. Freddie also deliberately shaved his beard off for those last two videos. What did Freddie grow a beard for? To hide Kaposi Sarcoma lesions. Why did Freddie hide his AIDS diagnosis? In his words, to not have his records bought out of sympathy. To keep the focus on music. It had nothing to do with sexuality.
Do you think by then the public magically forgot about Freddie’s antics? His hardcore gay club tee-shirts on stage and in videos? His attendance to hundreds of gay clubs and bathhouses worldwide?
Please, don’t be like SweetCaroline by ignoring this... I truly want to know how the fuck was Freddie hiding his sexuality during his final years? Did you ever see how Freddie dressed while in his own house around his gay friends? Was there things he needed to do to show his sexuality?
Hey that was a great post and 100% accurate ! Many Adam fans do not know the basics about Freddie because they live life in the Adam bubble world,
they just cannot see there was so much more to Freddie than the guy who performed on stage, he was a magnificent song writer and always donated huge amounts of money to charities but he always
wished to remain anonymous he was such a sweet lovable guy.
Young Music Fan & Sniflese have so much learning to do about Freddie which puts Adam in the dark.
We are not been nasty to you we are just so annoyed that you think Adam is better than Freddie even though Freddie worked so damned hard to make himself the legend he always thought he was.
they just cannot see there was so much more to Freddie than the guy who performed on stage, he was a magnificent song writer and always donated huge amounts of money to charities but he always
wished to remain anonymous he was such a sweet lovable guy.
Young Music Fan & Sniflese have so much learning to do about Freddie which puts Adam in the dark.
We are not been nasty to you we are just so annoyed that you think Adam is better than Freddie even though Freddie worked so damned hard to make himself the legend he always thought he was.