Bob Dylan references Queen

brENsK wrote:

@brENsKi You are the one asking all the questions so do not blame me for this thread going off track you are the master of derailing threads.
Everyone has choices and you should not be critical of peoples choices or slag them off because its not all about you on here.

While I am not a big fan of Dylan myself, his importance in music and popular culture since the early 60s simply cannot be overstated. If you don't like him for some reason, that's fine. But anyone over the age of 8 should know that if you don't like something, you can resist that urge to say how much you dislike it in lieu of being respectful of those who have different tastes from you and not rain on their parade.

You accuse Brenski of making this about himself. Do you not realize the irony that you are exhibiting the exact behaviour that you are accusing him of? Your entrance to this thread was to slag off Dylan. What were you hoping to add to the discussion by (erroneously) declaring Dylan to be "over hyped" in a way only a true philistine could ?

Back to topic.

This is a brilliant piece of music. So few artists remain relevant decade after decade. Dylan has done it again.

It's a mourning for America - not just for JFK. The timing could not have been more perfect.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Back to topic.

This is a brilliant piece of music. So few artists remain relevant decade after decade. Dylan has done it again.

It's a mourning for America - not just for JFK. The timing could not have been more perfect.

in the main it is a mourning of America, but i also think he's lamenting the world at large. lots of world references - Beatles, Queen, Tom Jones, Gerry & The Pacemakers, the Who etc.
i think he's warning about the end of humanity itself.
the arrhythmia in the "heartbeat" of the drums is sublime...and such an incredibly subtle way to get the message across.

The thing I admire about Dylan is his integrity. He knew his performance at Live Aid sucked and consequently he apologised to his manager afterwards.

Top bloke. Our crumbling world needs more people like him.

brENsKi wrote:

i think he's warning about the end of humanity itself.
the arrhythmia in the "heartbeat" of the drums is sublime...and such an incredibly subtle way to get the message across.

Great interpretation - I didn't see it that way.

Real Wizard Dylan is over hyped and is as boring as a fart after drinking pepsi max!
The Beatles are much more worthy!

brENsK wrote:
Real Wizard Dylan is over hyped and is as boring as a fart after drinking pepsi max!
The Beatles are much more worthy!

so you've finally discovered the Beatles. seriously, Gerry - you need to let more stuff in. Dylan is quite likely the greatest ever lyricist. Songs like "Hurricane" and "Shelter From The Storm" are incredible stories.

So many great artists have covered his songs:
Hendrix, Billy Joel, Etta James, Elvis Costello, Byrds, Manfred Mann/'s Earth Band, Clapton, Animals, Tom Petty, Roxy Music, Jefferson Starship, Beach Boys, Beatles, Bowie, Johnny Cash, Jackson Browne, Cher, Joe Cocker, CSN, Green Day, George Harrison, Elvis, Rolling Stones and many hundreds more.

Bob Dylan is far and away the most covered artist on the planet.
Surely, if all of the great and the good can see so much in his writing - then why are you so quick to dismiss him as "boring"? That shows an unparalleled level of musical blinkers on your part.

you seriously need to give things a proper chance - you may learn something.

You're a Queen fan, i get it. Roger Taylor covered Dylan's "Masters of War" - wouldn't that be endorsement enough for you?

Roger Taylor covered Dylan's "Masters of War" - And a fine job he did, Roger's voice is in tip top shape, outstanding performance. Strangely enough the lyrics could be have written by Roger ain't it?

Oh Gerry of Brensk what is the matter why oh why do you always take things so personal? You seem to have a strange habbit to hijack every topic, how come?


Tom

I am not hijacking anything i am merely giving my opinion.
You guys get so narky if no one agrees with you.
Dylan does not do it for me get it?
Other Artists are far more vibrant to me than Dylan.
Just because Roger Taylor likes Dylan does not make me want to say how wonderful he is and i think the sun shines out of his arse,
in fact if you had watched "The Old Grey Whistle Test" back in 2002 they were asking viewers to vote for there favourite concert performance
and as i remember Bruce Springsteen Queen Bob Dylan Lynyrd Skynyrd and a few other artists were up for voting by the viewers and the winner by miles
was Queen's Christmas Concert from 1975 ! Dylan never stood a chance were Mercury was !

@Brensk, the jackasses think that you are me, Freddie Jupiter.

@Freddie Jupiter Well does not take much to confuse that lot lol

And if you do literally nothing to confuse them, they will somehow find a completely ingenious way of confusing themselves, all on their own.

brENsK wrote:in fact if you had watched "The Old Grey Whistle Test" back in 2002 they were asking viewers to vote for there favourite concert performance and as i remember Bruce Springsteen Queen Bob Dylan Lynyrd Skynyrd and a few other artists were up for voting by the viewers and the winner by miles
was Queen's Christmas Concert from 1975 ! Dylan never stood a chance were Mercury was !

you have to turn everything into some form of competition. i would've thought that - even on a very basic level, if members of Queen like an artist, then said artist should merit further discovery.
think about it, much of Roger Taylor's writing is influenced by the likes of Dylan and Springsteen.
when all is said and done, you made your views on Dylan quite clear:

[color=SaddleBrown]brENsK wrote: 05 Apr 20, 11:54 Bob Dylan another over hyped piece of boredom![/color]

[color=SaddleBrown]brENsK wrote: 05 Apr 20, 12:39 Freddie would be more impressed that Madonna gave reference to him in one of her tracks than drab Dylan. Mind you Dylan was legendary on The Magic Roundabout ![/color]

[color=SaddleBrown]brENsK wrote: 06 Apr 20, 08:44 Real Wizard Dylan is over hyped and is as boring as a fart after drinking pepsi max! The Beatles are much more worthy![/color]

it doesn't matter how many times you make the exact same point (3x so far) - you won't convince others that you are right. this is mainly because your appraisal of everything you ever comment on (including Queen) lacks any kind of depth, knowledge or interpretation.

we get that you don't like Dylan, but you can't dismiss his influence on music. even if YOU don't get it - the world of music (including Roger Taylor) certainly do get it. Dylan is the single most covered recording artist ever.

Some of your own favoutite artists have covered Dylan - but that's still not enough to prompt you to investigate beyond your blanket statements of "boring"
Beatles: Positively 4th Street - Rainy Day Woman#13&35
George Harrison: Abandoned Love - Absolutely Sweet Marie - I Don't Want to Do It - If Not for You - I'd Have You Anytime - Mama, You Been on My Mind

The Beatles are the most covered artists on the planet not Dylan so go read up on that Mr know it all Brenski.
Dylan comes know where near The Beatles for inspiration and popularity, even Queen say The Beatles inspired them.

Brenski makes the claim that Dylan is the most covered artist on the planet and later accuses Brensk of turning everything into a competition.

Pure comedy gold.