Bob Dylan references Queen

[QUOTE] [b]brENsK wrote:[/b]
Real Wizard Dylan is over hyped and is as boring as a fart after drinking pepsi max!
The Beatles are much more worthy![/QUOTE]

so you've finally discovered the Beatles. seriously, Gerry - you need to let more stuff in. Dylan is quite likely the greatest ever lyricist. Songs like "Hurricane" and "Shelter From The Storm" are incredible stories.

So many great artists have covered his songs:
Hendrix, Billy Joel, Etta James, Elvis Costello, Byrds, Manfred Mann/'s Earth Band, Clapton, Animals, Tom Petty, Roxy Music, Jefferson Starship, Beach Boys, Beatles, Bowie, Johnny Cash, Jackson Browne, Cher, Joe Cocker, CSN, Green Day, George Harrison, Elvis, Rolling Stones and many hundreds more.

Bob Dylan is far and away the most covered artist on the planet.
Surely, if all of the great and the good can see so much in his writing - then why are you so quick to dismiss him as "boring"? That shows an unparalleled level of musical blinkers on your part.

you seriously need to give things a proper chance - you may learn something.

You're a Queen fan, i get it. Roger Taylor covered Dylan's "Masters of War" - wouldn't that be endorsement enough for you?

Roger Taylor covered Dylan's "Masters of War" - And a fine job he did, Roger's voice is in tip top shape, outstanding performance. Strangely enough the lyrics could be have written by Roger ain't it?

Oh Gerry of Brensk what is the matter why oh why do you always take things so personal? You seem to have a strange habbit to hijack every topic, how come?


Tom

[QUOTE] [b]brENsK wrote:[/b]in fact if you had watched "The Old Grey Whistle Test" back in 2002 they were asking viewers to vote for there favourite concert performance and as i remember Bruce Springsteen Queen Bob Dylan Lynyrd Skynyrd and a few other artists were up for voting by the viewers and the winner by miles
was Queen's Christmas Concert from 1975 ! Dylan never stood a chance were Mercury was ![/QUOTE]

you have to turn everything into some form of competition. i would've thought that - even on a very basic level, if members of Queen like an artist, then said artist should merit further discovery.
think about it, much of Roger Taylor's writing is influenced by the likes of Dylan and Springsteen.
when all is said and done, you made your views on Dylan quite clear:

[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown][b]brENsK wrote: 05 Apr 20, 11:54[/b][i] Bob Dylan another over hyped piece of boredom![/i][/color][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [color=SaddleBrown][b]brENsK wrote: 05 Apr 20, 12:39[/b][i] Freddie would be more impressed that Madonna gave reference to him in one of her tracks than drab Dylan. Mind you Dylan was legendary on The Magic Roundabout ![/i][/color][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [color=SaddleBrown][b]brENsK wrote: 06 Apr 20, 08:44[/b][i] Real Wizard Dylan is over hyped and is as boring as a fart after drinking pepsi max! The Beatles are much more worthy![/i][/color][/QUOTE]

it doesn't matter how many times you make the exact same point (3x so far) - you won't convince others that you are right. this is mainly because your appraisal of [u]everything[/u] you ever comment on (including Queen) lacks any kind of depth, knowledge or interpretation.

we get that you don't like Dylan, but you can't dismiss his influence on music. even if YOU don't get it - the world of music (including Roger Taylor) certainly do get it. Dylan is the single most covered recording artist ever.

Some of your own favoutite artists have covered Dylan - but that's still not enough to prompt you to investigate beyond your blanket statements of "boring"
Beatles: Positively 4th Street - Rainy Day Woman#13&35
George Harrison: Abandoned Love - Absolutely Sweet Marie - I Don't Want to Do It - If Not for You - I'd Have You Anytime - Mama, You Been on My Mind

Well Brenski, my sincere compliments that you argue so much and so unnecessarily with Gerry, Vanila, Brensk, funny to see that Vanilla continues to give completely different answers to your valid statements. Really, Brenski, I have had enough after one try. Fortunately, you give up less quickly, again my compliments. Oh learned something about Queen today: Queen is only Mercury that as I may believe Vanila: Dylan never stood a chance were Mercury!

Tom

[b]vANllLa wrote:[/b]
Gerry, you need to be careful about using mixed case / intercaps in your name...you great "friend" Freddie Jupiter thinks you're an idiot if you do so.
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]You should not use capital letters in the middle if words. All those examples are just stupid inventions made by idiots for other idiots. [/QUOTE]


[QUOTE] [b]vANllLa wrote:[/b]The Beatles are the most covered artists on the planet not Dylan so go read up on that Mr know it all Brenski.
Dylan comes know where near The Beatles for inspiration and popularity, even Queen say The Beatles inspired them.[/QUOTE]

i wasn't referring to number of artists to have covered him - that's an impossible thing to measure.

when I said : "Dylan is the single most covered recording artist ever"
I'm referring to the number of [b]different[/b] songs of his that have been recorded by other artists. At present it's listed as 382 different titles recorded by others!
sorry, but the Beatles didn't even record 300 songs! - let alone have that many covered.

[QUOTE] [b]vANllLa wrote:[/b]The Beatles recorded 213 songs but were over all more popular than Dylan.
So you are trying to say that just because artists have recorded more cover versions of Dylan that makes him a better Artist than The Beatles?
Popularity is a different thing to how many artists covered Dylan in fact the public have the last say on that one![/QUOTE]

you've failed to grasp what's been said. i never claimed any such thing. try reading.

regardless of what you think i said or what you actually think - the Beatles always will be the greatest band of all time - closely followed by Zeppelin. My own favourite (Queen) will likely always rank somewhere around 3rd - 5th in terms of actual greatness.

before you spout on - this isn't about sales. However, Zep and Beatles beat Queen on worldwide sales too.

this thread is about Dylan, his lyric writing is infinitely better than Queen - or any other major rock band that i love. the fact that 382 of his songs have been covered- and many of those hundreds of times, shows just want an influence his poetry has.

you've deliberately derailed another thread - as is your wont. if you don't have anything to specific say about the song (Murder Most Foul) - or even Dylan referencing Queen in that song, then you're not actually contributing to the discussion.

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[QUOTE] [b]brENsK wrote:[/b]

@brENsKi You are the one asking all the questions so do not blame me for this thread going off track you are the master of derailing threads.
Everyone has choices and you should not be critical of peoples choices or slag them off because its not all about you on here.[/QUOTE]

While I am not a big fan of Dylan myself, his importance in music and popular culture since the early 60s simply cannot be overstated. If you don't like him for some reason, that's fine. But anyone over the age of 8 should know that if you don't like something, you can resist that urge to say how much you dislike it in lieu of being respectful of those who have different tastes from you and not rain on their parade.

You accuse Brenski of making this about himself. Do you not realize the irony that you are exhibiting the exact behaviour that you are accusing him of? Your entrance to this thread was to slag off Dylan. What were you hoping to add to the discussion by (erroneously) declaring Dylan to be "over hyped" in a way only a true philistine could ?
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Totally agree with what Bob said. Not a huge Dylan fan myself either, but Dylan knows how to write a song. That's for sure.

[QUOTE] [b]vANllLa wrote:[/b]

I am not hijacking anything i am merely giving my opinion.
You guys get so narky if no one agrees with you.[/QUOTE]

No, people are fed up with you because you repeatedly express yourself aggressively like a child when basic human decency and restraint would do. But such a concept that would demonstrate rudimentary socialization eludes you, and will continue to. Airing negative opinions ad nausea combined with showing zero penchant for humility nor learning is what makes you the unlikable character you are.

Your parents should be proud of such well-adjusted crotch fruit they produced.

[QUOTE] [b]vANllLa wrote:[/b]

The Beatles recorded 213 songs but were over all more popular than Dylan.
So you are trying to say that just because artists have recorded more cover versions of Dylan that makes him a better Artist than The Beatles?
Popularity is a different thing to how many artists covered Dylan in fact the public have the last say on that one![/QUOTE]

He wasn't stating it as a matter of competition - he was stating it as a matter of indisputable fact.

But this thread has been enlightening, as it has highlighted that you justify your enjoyment of music purely on a comparative basis, which is obviously juvenile and unnecessary.

Cherry picking numbers that favour the artists you like (and rejecting the numbers that don't) is classic confirmation bias. You can simply like something for its own sake. Most people learn this by the time they're a teenager, but it is abundantly clear that you have not done so.

Brenski, Real Wizard et al, leave the trolls alone. I went to the last 4 pages of the Live Aid multitrack and it was two people arguing. The internet for most of us is around 25 years old. People like the ones who post the same shit day after day after after day need responses like oxygen. Stop giving it to them. Sermonizing to fools will not change a thing. Leave them alone, and someone should post a topic called Ignore these people and none their names. This place is a joke, don't encourage this shit.

[QUOTE] [b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote:[/b]

Brenski, Real Wizard et al, leave the trolls alone. I went to the last 4 pages of the Live Aid multitrack and it was two people arguing. The internet for most of us is around 25 years old. People like the ones who post the same shit day after day after after day need responses like oxygen. Stop giving it to them. Sermonizing to fools will not change a thing. Leave them alone, and someone should post a topic called Ignore these people and none their names. This place is a joke, don't encourage this shit.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, this place needed to die a decade ago.

You're welcome to start such a thread, but of course the problem is these trolls keep changing their names. They occasionally get banned, but then they can just start up a new account because this homemade forum engine (circa 2001) cannot ban IP addresses.

As stated numerous times before, someone needs to create another Queen forum catered for the 2020 realities of the internet, with any number of existing engines with those protections built in. This place has its occasional good moments, but it's about 90% trailer park trash now. But it sure is an education in what the world can look like without regulating forces. Two or three people can ruin something thousands used to enjoy.

Wake me up when someone does that. I'm out.

[QUOTE] [b]vANllLa wrote:[/b]

I agree with Freddie Jupiter in that Brenski Real Wizard Thomas quinn all are bullies if you do not agree with there side of the story, god forbid if you say something negative they all club together like worker ants and sting the hell out of you.
Just be fair because there is two sides to a coin in case you had forgotten and your views do not over rule any one else's views.
I was not wanting to dominate the thread but Brenski assumes i did because yet again he is overly opinionated..
My views should not get trashed just to make there views look superior. I have as much right to express what i want to.[/QUOTE]

you have no idea what you and your ilk are doing,
you think that by continuing in this way you'll achieve something?
you will. everyone who has any actual knowledge/stuff to share will go. you accuse me of causing trouble - but in the three years i was away - and you were here - hundreds left here for good. that's down to you Gerry - you and your like..

the only thing you'll achieve will be a ghost forum where only you, FJupiter and the other trolls remain.
it'll end up a battle between you and your trollmates - between the Freddie stepfords and the Lambert fans.
the winners (both of them) will get the spoils...talking to themselves in a husk of a forum - and you'll be welcome to it .
you can't see it - but the day is coming.
enjoy your victory.

Hail King Gerry: Proclaimer of the Irrelevant- Lord of the Queenzone Tumbleweed, Emperor of the Dust

[QUOTE] [b]vANllLa wrote:[/b]

Oh my god Brenski that is all you do shift the blame on to other people.
Lets get something straight here, if you kept your fat mouth closed then less rows would happen on here.
You have spoilt many a thread with your over blown opinions and bullying so do not play the victim card here sunshine.
You dig and dig and get people like me so annoyed that yes i get aggressive because i am not putting up with someone like you on here telling me
what i can and cannot do.
Simple solution is for you to stop commenting on my replies that way were all happy!
Tell your gobby mates Thomasquinn Real Wizard to do the same and stay away from me because commenting only starts friction which you only too well know about.[/QUOTE]

so NONE of this is to do with you?
ridiculous claim. who was to blame when i wasn't here for three years - and you were falling out with everyone?
you deliberately joined this thread - one you have no interest in at all - just to make disparaging comments.

YOU are the thread de-railer. stfu

[QUOTE] [b]vANllLa wrote:[/b]

You have a bad memory Brenski because last week you ran riot through every conceivable thread on Queenzone to attack me.
If you had not commented on this thread towards me then we would not be in the rut we are in now
Method in madness don't you think?
If you want to play nice don't reply at all.
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you've turned this place into a turdhole. well done