For serious collectors only!

"I never said that my recording from Leiden IS the best, i said i LIKE IT BEST."

No, you said it was the best sounding.

"The quality is uncomparable to other bootlegs i have and have heard. That is because of the recording equipment i used to record it with."

See?

"You also said collectively, that UTTI is the best example of somebody who doesn't know what she is talking about.
She wrote that she had read ALL posts first, and then made her remarks. She has a right to."

1. It wasn't said "collectively". One person said it.
2. If she really read all the posts first, why ask for mine to be removed? I had reasoned and moderate responses to Lisa's posts, and have been fairly lighthearted and reasoned with you. See pages 2 & 4.


"But what none of you lot know, is that received lifelong free of charge membership of the OIQFC from Mr. Brian May himself personally!"

No wonder the fan club is on it's last legs - lifelong freebies?

"Now, THAT is a very great honour to receive that from Queen, and she is maybe the only who ever got this?
So, she knows about things, is a friend of Brian,
and certainly deserves a hell of a lot more respect and dignity from all you arrogant @#$%*!"

Oh I see, friends of Brian's are bigger Queen fans than us mere mortals...come on Basje you know that's not the case.

"Your responses have made her decide to write her opinion, and i can understand her."

Fair enough, the more opinions the better...although your opinion seems to be that we shouldn't have an opinion. Isn't that unfair?

"So, lets keep this link as it is stated on the frontpage, the openingspage from queenzone.com as: FOR SERIOUS COLLECTORS ONLY
for serious collectors only.
bohemian is wrong about that, it IS a link that is named like this."

OK, I'm very serious about my collection.

"so if you are not a serious collector, then please go somewhere else."

Sorry, the more the merrier. Non-serious collectors may wish to ask questions. Although they should now be aware that questions such as "what was the point of getting a Dutch DJ to sign a UK sales award for a record he played in Holland a few times?" may be unwelcome.

Basje, your first post on this thread starts "I am selling". Later you said that you didn't want to sell, you were just highlighting the value of your collection. Later still you denied that this was just showing off.

Criticising everyone that disagrees with you makes your opinions harder to respect.

It is funny to read the topic from the point that basje dropped in with "valueing" his own items on the list.

And then, when people start raising their eyebrows, bas thinks that they, we are jealous that he has this item?....

I personally thought already when you let that borhap item sign by Frits Spits, that you were de valueing the thing for anyone else then you.
Others did say that here as well, and I think that maybe you regret that he put the sign on it, instead of that IT is more worthful for you, basje, I understand that, but do not have the illusion that the item gets more wort with an unknown autograph on it!

Okay, I repeat what others said, but do not think that I am jealous. I should love to have more QUeen items, but I am already happy with a for me unknown book of Mick Rock with pictures taht I havent seen in my 30 years queenfandom :):)

*steps off his soapbox back in a sweaty misery*

Basje wrote:

"at least we have a proper topic now and a discussion and sharing points of view coming from all that...
me, i couldn't care less wether the items are sold or not.
i am not saying the value is the right one, all i am saying is that IF anyone wants it, that this is the price i want to get in order to let me part with it.
I will not part with it for less, and it is my good right to say this.Who says that i want to part with it at all? As stated before: i must not sell it, but for this money i will! Haven't you all got items in your collections that you would never ever part with? But what if someone comes along and says: "hey...i want that...here you have €100.000,- if you'll sell it for that"...."

Yes, I might sell it if someone would offer me that much money, out of the blue.
But, Basje, that is something completely different than what you are doing: telling everyone these things are for sale.
There is a huge difference between accepting an offer, or trying to sell something and then saying people are jealous because they do not want to buy your story, or pay that ridiculous amount of money for it. I have a nice collection myself, although I don't have many rare items. But the things I have a worth a lot to me, emotionally.
The letter and emails I got from Brian are worth a million to me for instance, but would I offer to sell it for a million? I don't think so! It is worth that much to ME. It is useless to anyone else. It's the same with your Bo Rhap story and the Frits Spits autograph. To YOU it's worth this much. Besides, the thing I don't understand is, if it's worth this much to you, why do you want to part with it?

one more line to add...

I read again what basje all writes, about how many bootlegs and items he has.. I wonder how he is valued by the queen officials, fanclub and the queen members, can you tell me about that, Basje?


I am just curious, because I hear so many rumours, I want to hear it from the person himself how he sees that the queen world thinks about him..
THe queen fans is clear, how they think about him huh?

Sorry for the delay on my reply, Barbara and Hangman, but I ran out of valium and camomille, and had get out and buy some for you...

Hey!!

Someone buy Basje's stuff!! I need the child support!!!!!!! I am SO not kidding!! :-)

Um, my mom was a serious collector also, but sadly, when she got divorced, her ex husband got the records and stuff. that really sucks. But im sure she would have never sold them. She loves queen as much as i do.



ta-ta

Oh, that's so sad.....sorry about her collection - that really sux!!!!!!!!!

I know. I would love to see her collection. She said she was collecting them ever since Queen came out, 73, and when she lost them in the divorce, 91. its soo sad. :(

just a 'bump' for old times sake

Well, this has certainly provided some serious entertainment - and now I'm horribly curious about what exactly was going on with Lisa for the first few pages...

Hm...I'm now rather intimidated by the vast majority of those who posted previously, especially as I've been thinking about beginning a (obviously small) collection of my own...But if anyone wouldn't mind offering advice to a very new Queen fan, I would most certainly appreciate it.

Oh dear, I suppose in asking for help I've just admitted I'm not a serious collector myself, haven't I?

Oh well...

Denki denki!

What kind of advice do you want? Things to collect to make money or things to collect because they are neat to have?

Sorry, I probably should have clarified - I would like to start a small collection just...well, for me. I don't have the funds to become what is probably considered a 'serious collector', but I'm still interested in finding what I can! I definitely don't mean to ask for advice and help with the intention of selling anything I might buy.

Denki!

@ Basje

Hi Basje well we never spoke to each other did we?

Well I have heard that your collection isn't that exciting without the autograph part then. Didn't you sell your collection for your marriage ? Or girlfriend? What left is a handfull of cd's ?? So I've heard...

Well I agree with you that the UK award Boh. Rhap. without any signatures is worth a lot...or at least the sentimental value will increase the price... The normal value would maybe twice the price of any normal award... But I agree it's the ultimate item to have....

About your John immortals value question: well signed I don;t think it's worth much I think a signed John Deacon version of a average Queen single would me worth a lot more...who collects that immortal crap anyway?? I mean most of the Queen fans don;t want all the solo crap too....
And there's only a small percentage of the queen fans which are die hard collectors,and this number won't really increase in the future cause clonning of fans drops way back... simply: few Queen fans add these days... young people like music like O-zone a lot more (why god why ????)

And Basje are you still looking for the South Aferica recordings then contact me!

@ the woman who started this topic:
Here in Holland you can't insure your Queen (or whatever) collection, because we dutch people are not stupid!! Vinyl,cd's (especially) bootlegs are worthless to the insurace compagnies. Example I have over 600 queen (pressed silver cd's) I can insure them for eg.€ 10.000 (I paid more for them!!) when I claim due to theft or fire I will get 600 * 5.- euro's = 3000 euro's back for the (at the most!!!) why : Because the insurance:
-don;t see them as antiques
-Though it would be rated as antiques as the maximum antique payment of insurance is only 5000 € max.

Why they do that : well "over"insurance is forbidden (in all eg countries!) it's easy to fraud. Well let's say I'll buy a Greatest hits Lp holland original in a second hand shop for 10€ I will insure it as antique for 15000,- € claiming it's the most rare item. I hire Martin to steal it from my house , claim my 15k.'s give martin about 5k. And burn the lp...

Though you can get a policy here in holland but they wil never pay out the claim to it;s full (due to the antique law, and the changing of vaulue's * , and you cannot prove the value eg. a diamont watch : you can get a taxation report from a certified Antique dealer, and with Queen you simply cannot get some kind of certificate.

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* okay you claim your beatle collection is worth 250g's !! Well I'm 25 at this moment supose I'll die when I'm 85 how many fans would there be when I die ? How many demand will there be for those items???

I think it's the same with Queen , no the collecting prices are still increasing but they will reach a highest point and then decrease very fastly, cause then at that point no-one collects Queen anymore.... and your collection will be worthless...

Good point hey?? Well I'll stop collecting till I'm 85 and then buy everything for a few cents... my BLUE Bo rhap for € 4,- , my Freddie award of Somebody to love for € 2,- wauw that would be great !!

Well about the claim payment : you can see why I don't smoke in my house anymore!

Cheers...

another bump for fun's sake: Has anyone bought any of Basje's collection yet? I need the child support....I know, I know, I can dream on, on both counts!