howcome i never ever hear anyone complaining about ugly paintings being sold for $58 MILLION,
and THE ultimate award of them all, (which i claim Fredies BoRap IS !) IS BEING VALUED LIKE ANY OTHER NORMAL OR ORDINARY AWARD...?
this award, even without the autographs, is THE creme de la creme of all awards from Queen on the planet. NO other award comes close to what this award means in Rock 'n Roll history.
It is much and much more than only just another award. This award was the confirmation and big change and a milestone in the music industry worldwide. It is a milestone and monument in many different perspectives.
A song like this, the first over 5 and a half minutes long, with officially the very first so called video-clip, for 9 weeks at the number 1 spot in many countries, the song that established Queen as the biggest act on the planet and that gave them immortal superstardom-status....it's not just like any other song and any other award.THIS award is a MONUMENT!
The whole musical "We Will Rock You" is about this song, and a tribute to it, making millions of dollars and breaking all previous records and winning all the theatre-prizes around the world!
It is still the biggest moneymaker in music-history, ever!
And FREDDIES personal award for this song, YES, is indeed an uncomparable piece of Rock 'n Roll history that deserves to be sold for not a penny less!!!As i already said before, this IS museumstuff really!
If you think it is worth nothing more than any other award (between €1000,- and €3500,-), then your not worthy of having it, as to me, it is like degrading the ultimate song of all times into something like a d-quality song of an unknown artist. You are then, NOT appreciating Queen OR Bohemian Rhapsody for what they're really worth and really meant and still mean in this "bizznizz"!!
Again, a piece like this can not be found twice.
It is a one-off.
And not the (just being jealous-) fans, but the price that is being paid for it, decide what is its value at the end of the day. Like Van Gogh's sunflowers,(God is that an ugly painting!),that aint worth 58 million dollars!
So who do you think you are, to tell me that this piece isn't worth what i want to have for it IF i sell it? What if i get this money for it?
That still doesn't change the value of other awards in a negative way! As this award for this song is unique.There is NO comparing possible!
AND :I mustn't sell it. I may and might. It is available for the person who pays me this amount!
I will not part with it for less!
And if placed on a roundturning plate in some sort of glass-shell with na nice lamp on it, you can see it all around, including the signatures on its backside! If you're hanging it against a wall, then you are right about not being able to see them.
As said, these are all items for the serious and rich collectors, not for fans that would like a bargain!
Top items for top prices.
very simple. Very correct.
Hope you understand my point of view.
I can (if i try hard) understand the reactions i have read so far, and i respect them.
But they do NOT change or lower the price i am selling it for.
How proud could you be as a Queenfan, IF this is being paid for Freddies "piece de resistance"?
Wouldn't that put him and his best creation ever, there where they truly belong?
Right on top above the rest, and break yet another worldrecord again?
:-)
Basje
iGSM · Member since
Hmm, about...$100 if that? I think the 'rarest' thing I have at the moment/getting is a (red) copy of Nazis by Mr Meddows-Taylor. Don't know how much that's even close to being worth. Not much I would imagine seeing as I got it for .99 pound.
Mr. Scully · Member since
Van Gogh's painting is something that Van Gogh painted. BoRhap award was not made by Freddie himself, it was manufactured by EMI who make hundreds of similar awards every day. I'm sure the BoRhap award is a great item but it's still a factory product. I will give you a couple of similar examples
- tour itinerary (20-30 copies existed for each tour) - $200
- some really nice item signed by the whole band = $200-$300
- Freddie's handwriting lyrics = $2000
- clothes worn by Freddie = $2000-$5000
An award that Freddie touched for five minutes can (especially for die hard fans) hardly be equal to an outfit he used for the Knebworth gig or to an A5 paper with handwritten lyrics of a Queen song.
A song like this, the first over 5 and a half minutes long, with officially the very first so called video-clip, [/QUOTE]
"Hey Jude" was released at over 7 minutes in length. "Rain" and "Paperback Writer" were promotional clips recorded for television to substitute for live appearances 10 years before Bo Rhap.
Queenland · Member since
Tea, biscuits, anyone ?
bas asselbergs · Member since
it remains comparing apples and pears...
there is NO comparing possible...
there is only 1 Bohemian Rhapsody
there was only 1 Freddie Mercury
there is only 1 first award for that from Freddie
there is only 1 for sale now
there can be only 1
there will be only 1
and yes, EMI had a lot of awards made and the awards industry is huge....but still,
there was only 1 award like this one, and just try to get it....you will find that that is impossible...unless....
:-)
Ron · Member since
Bas, I'm afraid that you are looking at this item a bit different than we do. You've added a whole story to this award, you think that it is a great song, you think that it's Freddie's masterpiece, you think that it's unique..... happened to notice that every line begins with "you"?? I think that my Queen acetates are even better than that award because they go to the core of the recording proces (don't think that you can get any closer unless you have the master tapes), but even though I think that the acetates are unique, that doesn't mean that they are worth 10, 20 or 30 times its normal value. You have a different view about this item and that is probably the reason why you give it such a high price.
Billions of people have heard BoRhap by now so it's not unique.
Many other awards were made for other singles/albums, so a BoRhap award isn't so special.
BoRhap sold many copies, so an award for this track isn't so special or unlikely.
But I can understand your POV as well... BoRhap was Freddie's baby, your award was presented to him, BoRhap made history and is still regarded being great, so your conclusion is that it's valuable.... véry valuable.
But you are wrong..
Ron · Member since
you actually sound a bit like those people on TV Shop... they also claim that their product is the best and will give a million reasons, but in the end their product is the same as all the others.
Should I look the same to my LOML acetate as well? It was OWNED by Freddie and he loved that song on the ANATO album. It even has a diff edit but I will never ask 100.000 for it.
Queenland · Member since
I was going to remain silent on this, but I can't :)
If he finds someone willing to pay 100000 euros for it, good for him :)
If not, then the other theory is proved ;-)
It is as simple as that, no need to fight:
Throw it on ebay and wait for a bid.
inu-liger · Member since
Just out of curiosity, if I decided to sell my Immortals 7", how much would you guys pay for it?
And also, does anyone have any idea how much an autographed Fefe Dobson CD would go for on eBay? (I have Fefe's album which I got autographed by her in person at West Edmonton Mall the day before the Juno 2004 awards!)
Penetration_Guru · Member since
"Biggest moneymaker in music history"????
er...Michael Jackson, The Beatles, Elvis, even Eminem..
oh, you meant songs?
er....Do They Know It's Christmas, Candle In The Wind 97, even Tie A Yellow Ribbon (most covered song in history - the writer of that hasn't worked for a bit).
Plus surely inspiring the musical detracts from the value even more than a Dutch DJ (????wtf??? Kenny Everett you could make a case for, but a Dutch DJ on a UK sales award??? come to think of it Spike Edney & Eric Singer???? Has Eric even PLAYED Bo Rhap with Queen???)?
Sorry, got carried away there.
Van Gogh's sunflowers is an original piece of art. What you have is a defaced tribute to the popularity of an original piece of art. The other difference is....
THE SELLER DIDN'T SET THE PRICE.
FriedChicken · Member since
"there was only 1 Freddie Mercury"
Thats not true, as a matter of fact theres another Fred Mercury living in Brussels, Belgium. He's a 72 year old farmer, he has a wife. 8 kids and 11 grandchildren
This is his picture:
http://rurallife.kenyon.edu/newLookImages/bigImages/oldFarmer.jpg
bas asselbergs · Member since
at least we have a proper topic now and a discussion and sharing points of view coming from all that...
me, i couldn't care less wether the items are sold or not.
i am not saying the value is the right one, all i am saying is that IF anyone wants it, that this is the price i want to get in order to let me part with it.
I will not part with it for less, and it is my good right to say this.Who says that i want to part with it at all? As stated before: i must not sell it, but for this money i will! Haven't you all got items in your collections that you would never ever part with? But what if someone comes along and says: "hey...i want that...here you have €100.000,- if you'll sell it for that"....
i think every single one of you out there would sell it then...well...so do i...
That the award is the creme de la creme of all Queenawards seems to be logical and needs no further defending i think.
Many awards have been made and still are.
And nevertheless ...this particular award is a unique piece and i am so very proud to have it too!! And the only way for me to let it go, is if i receive a fortune in return for the item!
It's só simple! :-)
I do ot know what a 7"of John's Immortals project is worth...i bought mine for 2 pounds.
But... I have my 7" and 12" signed by the man himself, and i wonder what those items would be worth, certainly now he seemes to be lost in oblivian...
Or a starfleet 12"promotional album copy signed by Brian....and the original album signed?
The craziest of all items signed that i have, was a red vinyl bootleg from italy called rare live, on wich Roger wrote :
"This Ravishing Red RaRe live RecoRd was RegRetfully Ruined on Request foR Basje, by Rocking RogeR TayloR".....and i have that on film too!!! It was backstage after the rock against hate festival in Lengnau, Switzerland.
He played there with Spikeys bunch, and did a breathtaking rendition of Zeppelins Rock'n Roll, if anybody has that on tape or video for me???
What would that be worth?For me it is irreplaceable.He enjoyed doing that!!
It would definately have a very high ranking position if there were to be compiled a list of crazy items signed by the Queenies...or signed in a crazy way...
does anyone have more examples of funny things written by them on strange and weird items?
Would be nice to put together a list of this, wouldn't it?
cheerzzz
Basje
bas asselbergs · Member since
a read a line that i do not think is in the same line of thinking ...
someone said about the love of my life acetate that he or she would never ASK 100.000 for that.
Neither am i asking that, i am not parting with the award for less...that is a slight difference than asking the amount.
I set the items sale, in a way that i think i will never sell them, just to see what reactions i might receive. I set the prices so high that i do not believe there is actually someone who will pay this kind of cash for them.
And if there is....well....lucky me! :-)
eventhough i do not think that a piece of working-gear like an acetate is, is in any way more valuable than a reward/award for evident succes? What do you think receiving this award meant to freddie when he received it? He was in the pink , my dears!!! and thát award is now (not for sale) but available for the person who is willing to spend so much money for it ....
Most of the times the artists never get to see any acetates, as it is only a stage of the production-proces used to make more copies on different and more sound-carriers.
They are rare, and nice to collect, but even the acetate i have from i can hear music is in my opinion not more precious than an award like the BoRap i have?
don't know, really?
i have a rejected designing idea-item from the jazz album, supposed to be the gimmick inside the albumcover, but it was very costly, easy to get damaged and not very practical too....and then they put in this absolute fabulous poster!
What would be the value of such an item then? it was never used, and no-one knows of the idea nowadays, i think it was fab, but not used and unknown....just a piece of art that was useless in the end...quit unique again though?
Does anyone have footage or soundrecordings from the South Africa shows in the old days?
Been looking for that so long now, it must have been filmed or fotographed or recorded?
Never seen 1 picture from any of these shows....seems like they never happened to me, nobody has anything from them....do you know more of this?
Ron · Member since
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]bas asselbergs wrote: [/QUOTENAME]a read a line that i do not think is in the same line of thinking ...
someone said about the love of my life acetate that he or she would never ASK 100.000 for that.
Neither am i asking that, i am not parting with the award for less...that is a slight difference than asking the amount.
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