Is there anyone here who doesn't like U2?

I liked them until they got weird. Basically I just like their 80s stuff and a few scattered tracks after that.

So I agree with Mr. Jingles

netscape.com said that their new, unfinished CD disappeared on Tuesday at a photo shoot.

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/music/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040716%2F0740424582.htm&sc=1403

Which begs some questions...

1. Why take the master tapes of your new album to a photo shoot?
2. Why not learn from previous experience - this has happened to U2 before - Achtung Baby I think.

Or to put it another way - their publicity machine has used this story before.....

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Which begs some questions...

1. Why take the master tapes of your new album to a photo shoot?
2. Why not learn from previous experience - this has happened to U2 before - Achtung Baby I think.

Or to put it another way - their publicity machine has used this story before.....[/QUOTE]
exactly

I hadn't realized until now that so many people shared my low opinion of U2.

Also, I do not mind people who use their music as a political statement, as music is a means of expression of ideas and feelings. If politics and humanitarianism is a big part of one's life, which certainly is true in this case, then I respect that and the music which results from it.

But back to the first point...that doesn't necessarily mean I like it, because I absolutely do not like U2. This is partly due to their lack of technical skill, but mostly because their music really doesn't do anything for me at all.

They're as dull as can be. Their music has never been able to rise any good opinions in me, and these days I turn to another station if I hear them on radio or tv. Overrated indeed.

I don't mind Bono's humanitary work though, I believe he has some good intentions and will to do it, but taking too much credit for it to himself is really annoying. Just like with the 46664 project. All of the people who took part in it where there to help and raise awarness, and some with even more input than Bono or Beyoncé.

How exactly did Bono take too much credit for the 46664 concert? What did he do or say?

Maybe I put my words in a wrong way..

I didn't mean that he took too much credit for the 46664 himself (he was given that by the international media). What I meant was that of course it's a good thing to take part in charity and humanitary work, but to make such a great notice of it to everyone is not. He seems to be going around with all this good work that he's done and make friends with politicians to make his own name known as 'the future saviour of the world'.

I understand that he's in a position where he can use his name to achieve attention to the causes he supports, but he's givin a too bloody 'saint' picture of himself acting like some sort of samarian.. he's not the only famous person doing lots of work for humanitary but it seems he has forgotten that himself. I have a good reason to believe that e.g. Brian and Roger, Dave Stewart, Bob Geldof (80's) and many more have done just as much, but they haven't become too self consious about that..

But as always, that's just my point of view, you are free to disagree =)

Bono's involvement in 46664 preceded that of Brian and Roger. The reason Bono got the press is that he is currently more well known and popular than most of the other participants of the concert. Heck, Beyonce got more press here in the States for 46664 than Brian, Roger, or Dave Stewart (the real mastermind of the project) simply because more people know who she is right now.

Most Queen fans like their music light and breezy; we enjoy seeing Freddie cavort around the stage atop a man in a Superman costume. U2 is a political band looking to make social statements. It's no wonder that Queen-fans have a low opinion of U2 and vice versa.

And I like U2 in the 90s; Pop and Zooropa are a couple of great albums. Danny does not speak for all U2 fans.

Most people here like at least one band or artist who is slightly political, so I guess that's out of the question of why most people don't like U2.

To me it's just a matter of arrogance. Although I have to admit that for the past years Bono has become a bit less arrogant than before... yet more political.

And btw... the same reason why U2 fans like 'Pop' and 'Zooropa' is the same reason why Queen fans like 'Hot Space'.

"Most people here like at least one band or artist who is slightly political,"

True.

I should probably use the term "mostly political" when discussing U2. It is undeniable that the intentions of Queen's music and U2's music are completely different. U2 would never perform Don't Stop Me Now, and Queen would never get away with Sunday, Bloody Sunday.


"And btw... the same reason why U2 fans like 'Pop' and 'Zooropa' is the same reason why Queen fans like 'Hot Space'."

Not true.

You don't like those albums; I do. Don't act like you speak for all U2 fans. In fact, the massive and worldwide Zooropa and Popmart tours and the millions of albums sold in the 1990s would seem to indicate that those records were more popular than you let on.

"Most people here like at least one band or artist who is slightly political, so I guess that's out of the question of why most people don't like U2"

Firstly, I don't know how you could either know or prove the first part of that statement. It's been my observation that Queen fans like Queen partly because they are not political. Furthermore, any time someone lists their "Favorite Bands" on here, bands like The Manic Street Preachers, Rage Against the mchine, Public Enemy etc hardly ever appear. As Zeni has said, people who like political bands rarely like "pure entertainment" bands, and vice versa. Secondly, even if it's true, juat because you may like "one slightly political" band (who?) that hardly rules out the probability that most of the people who dislike U2 do so because of their non-musical "baggage."

If you don't like U2's music then that's fine. Criticising someone for either liking or disliking certain bands is like maoning becasue someone likes a certain food that you hate. But if you ask yourself why you don't like U2, and all you can come up with is a general feeling (unsupported by any facts) that Bono is arrogant, or he steals the limelight from Brian May/Dave Stewart etc, then my original argument is probably correct - you probably feel guilty that you don't do anything for charity (and Bono does) and you sit on your arse complaining about the state of the world but you don't do anything to change it (whereas Bono does).

I don't think it's 'guilt'. I think it's more along the lines of ability to give charity and receive recognition. Bono can give much charity at little or no expense to himself, and he receives praise from countless people. If any of us gave charity, it would be much more difficult and the rewards are also much more limited. I'm sure it's more of a jealousy type deal.

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You don't like those albums; I do. Don't act like you speak for all U2 fans. In fact, the massive and worldwide Zooropa and Popmart tours and the millions of albums sold in the 1990s would seem to indicate that those records were more popular than you let on.[/QUOTE]

Who said I'm speaking for U2 fans?

The truth is that the majority of people who buys records are not actually fans. Or are you going to tell me now that you're a fan of every single artist from who you own a CD?

I must say that the 'majority', as the word you stated, are, in fact, fans.