Zoom 79

copying CDs or WAV files will never result in degradation...they are exact digital copies.

Copying an MP3 over and over won't result in any degradation either.

Converting an MP3 to another format and then re-converting back, would, of course...so I can understand that concern.

However, MP3 is pretty much ubiquitous these days. Most CD players can play MP3 Cds, so I guess I wouldn't see too many folks recompressing MP3s once they already have them.

It's just that most concert bootlegs are of such poor fidelity to begin with, that you're not going to loose anything by making them MP3 to begin with.

That said, I can see the argument for the '10 years down the road' line of thinking. So I'll go along with that. ;o)

If you have poor quality to begin with, you _will_ still lose some quality when you encode to mp3, or any other _lossy_ format. Lossless formats like FLAC do not introduce any quality loss.

I agree, I think that the concerts should be only in the original quality, but on the other hand, after i download alot of the not so good quality concerts, i clean them up and re-mix them and they turn out 20 times better. Of course i only do this for my listening, i dont try and trade them off. I think that both should be allowed, just in separate trees.

KYA

musicalprostitute wrote:

after i download alot of the not so good quality concerts, i clean them up and re-mix them and they turn out 20 times better.

A lot of people are talking about quality of the recordings here. Quality as "in which format are the tracks offered". Most of them say they'll only want or trade the lossless quality. Well, no problem with that, but the quality I find most important is "how does the recording sound" and "will I listen to it more than one time". To be honest, a lot of bootlegs are not worth listening to sometimes even once, if you just consider how they sound.

Rien I agree. While I very much appreciate the time that is put into allowing us to torrent the shows , some do not live up to the rating that is listed. For example The Royal American Tour and Paris 86 are both advertised as near excellent quality while I would call them both good at best... again I am not ungrateful at all and still intend to burn them to CD but how much I will listen to them over the great sounding Earls Court 77 or Milton Keynes remains to be seen. I'm happy for any Queen show I can get and if something is great quality but MP3... I think it might still be better than the two shows I mentioned. If we adhere to the rules of not trying to convert MP3 to flac I don't see the problem. I for one would be happy to have the Zoom show if it's as good as it sounds. Sorry for rambling. It's all just my opinion.

Rob

An ammendment:

Normally I try to download only lossless files and will continue to do so most of the time... however I have heard MP3s that sound better than some of the shows featured here or on furthur and elsewhere. It's all subjective and if we advertise what it is it becomes up to the downloader... again just an opinion.

Well, I currently have one track of ZOOM on my site (Somebody To Love). It certainly isn't better than Earls Court or Milton Keynes but as I said I offered them because that show was mentioned. And as Whitemanadmin said: the search goes on!

"If you have poor quality to begin with, you _will_ still lose some quality when you encode to mp3, or any other _lossy_ format."

Technically, yes. Audibly, from a live concert recorded in the audience, I doubt few, if any could tell a good MP3 from the original.

"but the quality I find most important is "how does the recording sound" and "will I listen to it more than one time". To be honest, a lot of bootlegs are not worth listening to sometimes even once, if you just consider how they sound."

I agree...and is why I asked the question. I do understand that there are a lot of folks that enjoy the boot regardless of the fidelity. But I'm with you, if it sounds bad, why bother? (To each their own, of course!)

Speaking of hi-fi boots, I found a single track (it's late) supposedly from an '81 concert. It sounded pristine...almost a Soundboard feed. Anyone know which show that might have been?

Rien Somebody to Love sounds good. On a first listen it is definately better than some of the other shows I've heard. Is there any way of sharing this or any other shows that would meet approval? I would rate this at least good quality... thanks for the song brother.

Don't know how long the torrent will be alive but here you go:
http://bt.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=2940

88 times downloaded now. 15 are waiting.
No comments about this bootleg?

lol
haven't tried downloading yet ... suppose I should soon... I got distracted by all the other great stuff on eztree ... thanks for directing me there Rien! Now my bandwidth is really over loaded! :P

It's good. I'm not so expirienced in bootlegs, but Zoom 79 is better then many others.

Many comments!

Doesn't that guy coughing in the right channel get on your nerves? :)

Great show, and probably the last one before Freddie really lost his voice. First performance of Teo Torriate here, an awesome NIH jam, and a killer Brighton Rock improv.

Thanks Rien, (reuze bedankt). Sounds Great.