Zoom 79

I finished downloading this show just before EZTree banned it. The sound quality is fantastic. It definitely was sourced from MP3, as there are tell-tale microgaps between the tracks. It must have been an sampled at 192 bps or even higher, because much of the high frequency sound is still there. Someone needs to find the original source discs and share it with every Queen fan here, because it is such a great show. In the mean time, I am content to listen to this HQ MP3 version while awaiting the real deal.

So Rien, you decided to post a show that you knew to be mp3 sourced on a site that clearly prohibits such posts - and no text file identifying the show as mp3. Congratulations, you just pissed in the trading pool.

wstevena wrote:

I finished downloading this show just before EZTree banned it. The sound quality is fantastic. It definitely was sourced from MP3, as there are tell-tale microgaps between the tracks. It must have been an sampled at 192 bps or even higher, because much of the high frequency sound is still there. Someone needs to find the original source discs and share it with every Queen fan here, because it is such a great show. In the mean time, I am content to listen to this HQ MP3 version while awaiting the real deal.

I just posted it on behalf of our mystery man. The version I posted is NOT MP3 sourced. And is there waiting for you :)

Sweet! And Rien, it's not that I don't appreciate the fact that you want to share shows, but it does need to be done right if quality is going to be preserved over time.

thankstogravity wrote:

So Rien, congratulations, you just pissed in the trading pool.

So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye?
Zoom 79 was asked for and nobody had offered it yet. Now 130 people downloaded my version.
My guess is, most of them liked it.
If there's a better version - I welcome it! Because that's what should be offered and that's what we want. Thanks to the one who is sharing, thanks to the people who share for free.
Of course I'm downloading the new version and presume it's really better.
And Thankstogravity, let's see what you have to offer us. Or are you just drinking out of that pool I've pissed in?

"And Thankstogravity, let's see what you have to offer us. Or are you just drinking out of that pool I've pissed in?"

Well said Rien - couldn't have said it better myself!

Agneepath! wrote:

"And Thankstogravity, let's see what you have to offer us. Or are you just drinking out of that pool I've pissed in?"

Well said Rien - couldn't have said it better myself!

I have to agree. So far, on the tracker on Queenzone. The only torrents I have uploaded have been my own and our mystery man.

Richard has seeded some shows I sent him, also some stuff from barbara, and one or two others, but most traders are keeping their stash, which is entirely up to them, but does give them limited right to input into what others are doing.

I have always said constructive criticism is good, and can only improve posts. Flaming is not helpful at all. And if better is available, why not share it?

Even people reseeding some of the older shows I seeded, and they have dissapeared from the tracker would be good, as I never kept them. And would like to redownload them.

whitemanadmin wrote:
I have always said constructive criticism is good, and can only improve posts.

I agree. A long time ago there was a link, I think posted on Queenzone, of a site that was loaded with mp3-bootlegs. I spent hours downloading the tracks and ended up with 7 cd's full of mp3-bootlegs. A lot of them were not worth listening to, due to bad quality of the SOUND, I'm not speaking of LOSSY quality. We all have human hearing and we all decide for ourselves what we are happy with or satisfied.
Before the Torrent-thing I had never heard of FLAC compressing. With no bad intention at all I just wanted to share this ZOOM concert. Then whiteman and others made me aware of the value of lossy compression against the value of lossless compression. I realised there was a great difference indeed. So, with constructive criticism I fully agree.
Without talking about "the next possible step: TRADING mp3-files" I still think a recording that just sounds so great, so you will listen to again and again, is more important to me than a FLAC recording where you can hardly hear all the instruments and hear Freddie singing somewhere in the background and you can hardly hear what he's singing.
Notice: I treasure recordings from way way back, due to it's historical value, such as the Wreckage recordings or perhaps the Mott The Hoople Support Act (haven't heard this torrent yet but I know it from mp3) When those recordings SOUND "awfull" it still adds something to my collection due to it's historical value, it are pieces that makes the Queen story more complete.

btw, the bold typeface in the post above was unintended ! :-)
Tried to remove it, ah well... it sure stands out this way ;-)

Have listened to Mott in the meantime. Sounds ok to me.

Don't worry, Whiteman, I just meant that I have heard the tracks before, but then from mp3. I know you're not torrenting mp3 files.

Rien,
First off, I'd like to apologize for the flippant remark about pissing in the trading pool. It was a knee-jerk reaction and was uncalled for. I have nothing against DOCUMENTED mp3 recordings, and I was upset that you posted this show on a site for lossless audio without an accurate text file documenting its mp3 lineage. Then, when the show was banned, queenzone was mentioned in the ban notice, which doesn't do anybody here any good.

I know that you were eager to share a show that others were asking for, and you're to be commended for that. I'm not out to attack you as a person. I just think that you may have been a bit overeager in this case.

As for what I have to offer for recordings, my list is at www.geocities.com/suitablyamused . Unfortunately, I don't have much Queen (I haven't found much to trade for over the years). I do have silvers of the following: Opera Omnia (4 CD live collection), The Unobtainable Royal Chronicle Vol. 1, The Ultimate Collection Vol. 3, Tribute (Unreleased BBC & Live Aid), and London 1975 (Christmas BBC show). I also have a cassette of Brian May in Hartford CT March 9, 1993, but the recording is extremely poor quality. As a show of my good faith, Rien, pick any show by any artist from my site and I'll mail you a copy.

Apology accepted of course.
We all do or say things we later on feel we shouldn't have (me included).
Thanks for the offer Jeff.

Wow! an argument between 2 Queenzoner's has ended peacefully with everything resolved. Well done guys! .... must be a first here at QZ!