Geez, can you just cool a little bit Virtuoso?
Mandy (geeks) is more than right when that everytime there's a discussion about guitar playing we end up at each other's throats. And this time is probably the worst that's ever been.
In no way or another I was insulting Malmsteem. The guy is fuckin' great and you don't need to play the guitar or be a music wiz to realize it. I'm not taking any credit away from him on all the other aspects that make a great guitar player besides the skill and virtuosity. All I'm saying is that some of the guitarists that people here have also mentioned, might be bigger than him on other aspects. But once again... in no way I'm diminishing the guy. What you can deny is that it's an arguable point. And there's no reason to get pissed off about it.
If you want to get pissed at someone, Virtuoso, why don't you send a big nasty letter to Blender Magazine for putting Malmsteem among the Top 50 worst artists ever...
http://www.blender.com/articles/article_466.html
I think people here need a little bit more respect.
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Technicaly,I'm better than Jimmy Page.I've been playing for 11 years now (I'm 18)and I can easely reproduce every single licks he has realized.His solos are really effortless(constanly using the pentatonic and minor scales)to duplicate.Jimmy's skills are nothing compared to players like Satch,Yngwie,Vai,DeMartini,M.Angelo,M.Romeo and the lists goes on and on and on...
that may be, but there's more to being a good guitarist than being able to move up and down the neck like a chipmunk on speed.
If you want to get pissed at someone, Virtuoso, why don't you send a big nasty letter to Blender Magazine for putting Malmsteem among the Top 50 worst artists ever...
http://www.blender.com/articles/article_466.html
That list really was awful, they even put The Doors on there.
I'm deeply sorry for the way I responded Mr.Jingles,that will never happen again,I can assure you.I was just a little warm up from this weekend,'cause my band and I have recently lost a contest here in the finals 'cause I fucked my solo(while peforming Bedroom Eyes,Yngwie cover).I'm normaly not that type of poster.Bob and I have had in the past months(I think) a similar conversation about Jimmy Page,which I'm confident that the conversation went quite well.Also,Blender mag. has always bashed Yngwie,for really unknown reasons.
I really do think that's a matter of opinion.I mean,even Brian has alot of admirations for virtuosos and he admited that he could never reach them in a technical point of view.I know that you dislike pretty much all virtuosos(which I'm not basing my facts on this topic only),but hey, just be a little bit more open minded.Virtuosity is just another level of playing.Thanks to it,I can easely improvise my solos.
Technicaly,I'm better than Jimmy Page.I've been playing for 11 years now (I'm 18)and I can easely reproduce every single licks he has realized.His solos are really effortless(constanly using the pentatonic and minor scales)to duplicate.Jimmy's skills are nothing compared to players like Satch,Yngwie,Vai,DeMartini,M.Angelo,M.Romeo and the lists goes on and on and on...
that may be, but there's more to being a good guitarist than being able to move up and down the neck like a chipmunk on speed.
I really do think that's a matter of opinion.I mean,even Brian has alot of admirations for virtuosos and he admited that he could never reach them in a technical point of view.I know that you dislike pretty much all virtuosos(which I'm not basing my facts on this topic only),but hey, just be a little bit more open minded.Virtuosity is just another level of playing.Thanks to it,I can easely improvise my solos.
Virtuosity is one part of music. I think it is more geared toward the competitive and exhibitionist aspects of music. I totally respect and admire virtuosos.
However, in my opinion, technical skill is simply the capacity for a musician to express himself. Mastering the instrument is not mastering technical skill, but mastering the use of the instrument as a means of expressing oneself (which one may not necessarily be able to do without sufficient technical skill).
If you are Malmsteen, you express yourself through insanely fast licks and a unique vibrato, while pioneering neoclassical rock. If you are Page, you express yourself in a very laid back style, while bluesily meshing several styles of music. If Page wanted to be at the peak of the technical top 100 list, then do you really think he would sling his guitar two feet from the ground and play with a Les Paul? Heavens no!
And of course, if you are Brian May, you express yourself with your totally unique tone and buoyant playing style.
Page also has a lot more technique than you credit him with, but rock and roll was on the top of his list. Sure, a thousand guitarists are probably better, but could you say that in the 70s? It's all relative.
However, in my opinion, technical skill is simply the capacity for a musician to express himself. Mastering the instrument is not mastering technical skill, but mastering the use of the instrument as a means of expressing oneself (which one may not necessarily be able to do without sufficient technical skill).
If you are Malmsteen, you express yourself through insanely fast licks and a unique vibrato, while pioneering neoclassical rock. If you are Page, you express yourself in a very laid back style, while bluesily meshing several styles of music. If Page wanted to be at the peak of the technical top 100 list, then do you really think he would sling his guitar two feet from the ground and play with a Les Paul? Heavens no!
And of course, if you are Brian May, you express yourself with your totally unique tone and buoyant playing style.
Page also has a lot more technique than you credit him with, but rock and roll was on the top of his list. Sure, a thousand guitarists are probably better, but could you say that in the 70s? It's all relative.
since every time I start talking to you about guitar playing, we end up at each other's throats
Come on, that's what we all want to see and hear. Or at least I, for one, do. That's how all the good debates go.
Virtuosity is one part of music. I think it is more geared toward the competitive and exhibitionist aspects of music. I totally respect and admire virtuosos.
However, in my opinion, technical skill is simply the capacity for a musician to express himself. Mastering the instrument is not mastering technical skill, but mastering the use of the instrument as a means of expressing oneself (which one may not necessarily be able to do without sufficient technical skill).
If you are Malmsteen, you express yourself through insanely fast licks and a unique vibrato, while pioneering neoclassical rock. If you are Page, you express yourself in a very laid back style, while bluesily meshing several styles of music. If Page wanted to be at the peak of the technical top 100 list, then do you really think he would sling his guitar two feet from the ground and play with a Les Paul? Heavens no!
And of course, if you are Brian May, you express yourself with your totally unique tone and buoyant playing style.
Page also has a lot more technique than you credit him with, but rock and roll was on the top of his list. Sure, a thousand guitarists are probably better, but could you say that in the 70s? It's all relative.
Good post, man. Lots to think about in there.
i reckon that
1.Brian may
2.Steve Vai
3.Joe Satriani
4Yngwie Malmsteen
5.Kirk Hammet
6 James Hetfield
7.Dan Hawkings
8.Justin Hawkings
9.Jimmy Page
10.Jimi Hendrix
They are excellent
1.Brian may
2.Steve Vai
3.Joe Satriani
4Yngwie Malmsteen
5.Kirk Hammet
6 James Hetfield
7.Dan Hawkings
8.Justin Hawkings
9.Jimmy Page
10.Jimi Hendrix
They are excellent
"There's a difference between a guitarist with just only "skill", and the guitarist that has "everything".
There are other elements that makes a guitarist great such as... innovation, influence, song writing creativity, on stage prescence and performance, etc."
Yeah I agree. A good guitarist also knows when guitar isn't needed
There are other elements that makes a guitarist great such as... innovation, influence, song writing creativity, on stage prescence and performance, etc."
Yeah I agree. A good guitarist also knows when guitar isn't needed
Come to think of it, there are also other playing styles such as classical guitar which are purely technical skill. No creativity or innovation, really, at all.
Good point Music Man.
There's a lot of goddamn skilled Flamenco, Acoustic, and Classical guitarists.
You could put Paco De Lucia, at the same level as Malmsteem, Brian May, or Hendrix for instance.
There's a lot of goddamn skilled Flamenco, Acoustic, and Classical guitarists.
You could put Paco De Lucia, at the same level as Malmsteem, Brian May, or Hendrix for instance.
Good point Music Man.
There's a lot of goddamn skilled Flamenco, Acoustic, and Classical guitarists.
You could put Paco De Lucia, at the same level as Malmsteem, Brian May, or Hendrix for instance.
Thanks, but really, the same level in different categories. This topic is one of the least black-and-white topics around. For instance:
Hendrix vs. Malmsteen
Category: Speed
Winner: Malmsteen, hands down
Category: Influence, Innovativeness, and Creativity
Winner: Hendrix
i reckon that
1.Brian may
2.Steve Vai
3.Joe Satriani
4Yngwie Malmsteen
5.Kirk Hammet
6 James Hetfield
7.Dan Hawkings
8.Justin Hawkings
9.Jimmy Page
10.Jimi Hendrix
They are excellent
Haha, you put Justin Hawkins in your list. I assume Dan is his brother who also plays in the Darkness?
brian may
jimmy page
edward van halen
slash
neal schon
angus young
randy rhoads
tony iommi
richie sambora
STEVE CLARK
Steve is one of my favourites... I think the recent Def Leppard albums are not good because
Steve songwriting and playing guitar was part of the perfect plans on Pyromania and Hysteria, and partially, Adrenalize....
Antonio
Man, If Justin Hawkins is on the list I should include that kid from Hanson.