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Or maybe they do overdubs because they are Queen, so no room for any mistakes ;P
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Yeah, i'll take the first theory, EH...
maybe they're too concerned that people would think that they were lousy at ther concerts or something hehehe...
but couldn't they release just ONE show without overdubs?...
I vote for Knebworth... maybe it's WORTH buying it.. (hahaha what a HORRIBLE joke)
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LOL :) Yes, Knebworth would be a good one to leave alone.. since it's the last it should be a wholly accurate record of the show, right? But sadly they'd probably go the other direction and say that since it's the last, it has to be PERFECT. You can't win :-P
Someday... hahahahahhaha
Well, we (Queen Fans) could open our own record company to make better uncut bootlegs hahahahaha
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DVDs have multiple audio streams - why not have an "original" stereo warts and all mix, and a shiny 5.1 overdubbed one?
Yes, just like they did with Coming Soon on The Game DVD-A. The 5.1 mix has the different RT vocals and the stereo mix is the original version.
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artist_nine wrote:
I would disagree about Live Magic being clean of overdubs.

For example, A Kind Of Magic is clearly taken from the Budapest concert. However, the end bit "will soon be will soon be..." sung by Freddie is overdubbed (or taken from another concert). On the VHS Live in Budapest you can hear Freddie singing the part very low, but on Live Magic Freddie magically gets his voice back and sings much higher.

Could anyone confirm this, or am I wrong?


Good observation. But what we're hearing is actually Spike and Roger singing the line, and they muted Freddie's vocal track. You hear Freddie's first "will soon be" and then he's gone until the final "will soon be done" on his own, before the big finish.

EddieVanHalen wrote:
Some guitar parts on One Vision were in fact overdubbed on the Live Magic album, for example in the region between 1:42 and 1:46, there's a slight variation in that lick which can't be played live by only 1 human.


I didn't notice anything tricky at this point. Are you sure you have the right time region? If you're talking about 2:39 to 2:40, that's definitely as it happened. It's the tapping part Brian did on just about every night of the tour.
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Sir GH wrote:
artist_nine wrote:
I would disagree about Live Magic being clean of overdubs.

For example, A Kind Of Magic is clearly taken from the Budapest concert. However, the end bit "will soon be will soon be..." sung by Freddie is overdubbed (or taken from another concert). On the VHS Live in Budapest you can hear Freddie singing the part very low, but on Live Magic Freddie magically gets his voice back and sings much higher.

Could anyone confirm this, or am I wrong?


Good observation. But what we're hearing is actually Spike and Roger singing the line, and they muted Freddie's vocal track. You hear Freddie's first "will soon be" and then he's gone until the final "will soon be done" on his own, before the big finish.

EddieVanHalen wrote:
Some guitar parts on One Vision were in fact overdubbed on the Live Magic album, for example in the region between 1:42 and 1:46, there's a slight variation in that lick which can't be played live by only 1 human.


I didn't notice anything tricky at this point. Are you sure you have the right time region? If you're talking about 2:39 to 2:40, that's definitely as it happened. It's the tapping part Brian did on just about every night of the tour.


I'm not sure about that time region, because I always work with bars and not with actual minutes or seconds.but I'll try to explain it, it is in bar 54, where Brian goes from an F5 chord to a D11 chord over to a D5 chord.The actual overdub is over this bar 54 I'm talking about, so it is over these three chords I mentioned.It should be in between 1:40 and 1:50, but I'd have to check the album to find out the exact time, I shall do so tonight.

hahahah now... that's complicated for me... :-)
i don't play the guitar, i am a drummer hahahah
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I've listened to the cd, and it's around 1:44 1:45.It's not very noticeable, and if you wouldn't know it was there you probably wouldn't hear it.It's a sort of muted chord sound that you can hear for just a second or so that I'm talking about, amongst guitarists also known as a rasp.
It's very hard to explain to someone that doesn't play the guitar.
I hope this will be of any help.
0ne of the things we can be happy about this concert, is that it won't have any video mixed with audio from other concerts, since this is the only gig in MK... :-)... that's a good thing, because what they've done to the Montreal '81 concert was awful...
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rasp - the sound made by fingers against strings as they slide along the neck.

Best example - Every Breath You Take by The Police - listen with headphones.

Is that the hard to describe effect you were thinking of?
No sorry I made a mistake, the word I was looking for is a rake.It's like playing a chord but not playing it properly, it sounds a bit muted although it's a different technique.
Jimi Hendrix used it on Hey Joe in the guitarsolo.
EddieVanHalen wrote:
I've listened to the cd, and it's around 1:44 1:45.It's not very noticeable, and if you wouldn't know it was there you probably wouldn't hear it.It's a sort of muted chord sound that you can hear for just a second or so that I'm talking about, amongst guitarists also known as a rasp.
It's very hard to explain to someone that doesn't play the guitar.
I hope this will be of any help.


I'm a guitarist, and I definitely hear exactly what you're talking about. But what is so humanly impossible about that part, as you mentioned?
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Sir GH wrote:
EddieVanHalen wrote:
I've listened to the cd, and it's around 1:44 1:45.It's not very noticeable, and if you wouldn't know it was there you probably wouldn't hear it.It's a sort of muted chord sound that you can hear for just a second or so that I'm talking about, amongst guitarists also known as a rasp.
It's very hard to explain to someone that doesn't play the guitar.
I hope this will be of any help.


I'm a guitarist, and I definitely hear exactly what you're talking about. But what is so humanly impossible about that part, as you mentioned?


Impossible to play is maybe a bit exagurated, but I have read this also in a guitar magazine called Guitarist, and they had written an analysis of the song together with some comments from Brian about the structure of the song and it also stated very clearly that there was an overdub on bar 54.