Blo*dy hell Adam, you are like a dog with a bone. Why don't you let it go? You proclaim "Peace" but still you open up old wounds.
Let's be clear here. I am NOT infallible. I am NOT a musician. I am NOT a studio technician. I am NOT involved with Queen archives. As such I have made mistakes in all three, and when these mistakes have been pointed out to me, I have publically appologised. What else do you want me to do - shed blood?
This is NOT "blagging" but honest genuine mistakes. This is NOT in the same league as "The Left Testicle Of Freddie" who deliberately lied (but was consequently believed), or vindictive (like some of the hate mail which pours through my e-mail - or the threads of this 'zone).
I will remind you I am a serious collector of more than 30 years experience, with some very serious (some would say priviledged) contacts. I own many very rare and unusual peices, and therein lies my "authority". In such cases I have freely shared my "expertise" - only to be shot down for doing so. Hardly fair - is it?
Like an independant Queen-India Jones, it was ME who unearthed the "DELETED" BBC sessions (which strangely enough magically turned up for QP AFTER I donated mine). It was me who unearthed both "The Hectics" and "Ibex".
It was me who unearthed very early Queen live recordings (including Barry Mitchell) The "De Lane Lea" master tapes (which I sold privately to the Dutch collector who eventually bootlegged them) and unreleased Trident acetates (which consequently will never be "donated" to QP).
I have made very big mistakes dealing with Queen Productions. Period.
I will remind you, that I do own "Is This The World We Created" piano version - and that the original tape was erased/overwritten. Whether this original master was two track, eight track or sixty four track, is academic, and to keep pulling me up because I got the number of tracks "wrong" really is a bit disingenuous. I still claim it was originally two tracks that were used - but I bow to your superior knowledge of studio technique, and concede that technically, I may be wrong. But as to the existence of the track, I am 100% balls-on-accurate.
Have you ever made mistakes Adam? Do I keep pulling you up on those? Then please have the courtesy to acknowledge that I am doing my best here, to satisfy everyone who reads these threads, rather than jump upon a band-wagon that is trying to paint me as some sort of Queenzone Darth Vader.
After all, as Freddie himself once said; "It's only a bloody record".
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Adam, you've already been warned by others. Don't pick fights.
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My God. You people are all completely bonkers. Insanity ... why don't you all take a second before you blow the bloody world up and breathe very deeply? Ach!
What bugs me is why someone who appears to bear the official Queen Productions seal of approval would choose to write an e-mail as acrimonious as this one, and specifically ask for it to be published on the net. No matter who's wrong or right, if I were Queen I wouldn't want to be represented in this way. Certain jobs are simply too public to allow for "private" outings like this one, and I believe Greg has such a job.
Blo*dy hell Adam, you are like a dog with a bone. Why don't you let it go? You proclaim "Peace" but still you open up old wounds.
First of all, this is only the second time within a year that I've brought it up. Secondly, YV wanted me to explain myself, so I did. And thirdly, if you had read my posts on "that incident" you'd understand that I have let it go.
You see, I let it go ages ago. You're the one who is talking about reopening wounds. I was simply making my previous comments a little clearer for YV.
Let's be clear here. I am NOT infallible. I am NOT a musician. I am NOT a studio technician. I am NOT involved with Queen archives. As such I have made mistakes in all three, and when these mistakes have been pointed out to me, I have publically appologised. What else do you want me to do - shed blood?
You see what you wrote? I wasn't attacking you, but you took it that way.
This is NOT "blagging" but honest genuine mistakes.
Okay, once and for all... the other mistakes you mentioned? I don't know of. But the recording comments were wrong.
I will remind you I am a serious collector of more than 30 years experience, with some very serious (some would say priviledged) contacts. I own many very rare and unusual peices, and therein lies my "authority". In such cases I have freely shared my "expertise" - only to be shot down for doing so. Hardly fair - is it?
When do I question you on things? Hardly ever. I believe in you. You're one of the only members of the board that I actually sit and read anymore.
I have made very big mistakes dealing with Queen Productions. Period.
If I was you, I'd only have ever sent a copy of the material you have. At least that way, you still have the original. Just take precautions.
I will remind you, that I do own "Is This The World We Created" piano version - and that the original tape was erased/overwritten.
Copy it and send it if they need it. Or would there be a reason not to make them a copy? Btw, why did you mention that big list of stuff?
Have you ever made mistakes Adam? Do I keep pulling you up on those?
Actually, yes I have had mistakes. And like you, I've put my hands up and agreed that I had been wrong. Remember the guitar thread where I thought a solo was tapping? I got it wrong and admitted it. And what's this pulling you up on stuff thing? Come on, man.
After all, as Freddie himself once said; "It's only a bloody record".
Exactly. So why so defensive?
Peace,
Adam.
Adam - why am I so defensive? You keep on insulting me - but still you really want to know why I am so defensive?
Perhaps I am over sensitive just now (and if so I apologise) but reading YOUR comments:
"Greg... I... see his where he's coming from..." and,
"...half-truths and guesses... he "blagged" that he knew about that stuff, when it was clear he knew nothing about it...",
sound to me like you are saying "you deserved this" because you "blag" your way through the board".
Do you know what "blag" actually means? It is UK slang and is highly offensive. Here is a dictionary definition: Robbery or theft, often a con or scam.
Do you realise that you are saying that "I con my way, that I cheat steal and scam, for some sort of personal gain" - when the truth is I made an honest mistake you have ONLY dredged up TWICE? ("First of all, this is only the SECOND time within a year that I've brought it up").
Why keep bringing it up in the first place? It is not some competition - yet this seems to be the very reason "I deserve" what happens to me! (or at least - that's how I read your opinions).
Ofcourse it is highly offensive and inflammatory language - and you wonder why I am insulted - or defensive?
We both know I am not a thief or a liar - so why make out that I am - I don't think I deserve this sort of treatment because you have been able to pick me up on a single solitary technical error. Do you?
How would you like to be inslted, to be called a cheat, a con, a liar, because you made a mistake about guitar tapping?
Not very nice is it?
Again, perhaps it is just my over sensitivity - but I do not accept that I deserve to be treated like public enemy number one simply because I answered a bloody question on a bloody notice board.
To say "Peace" on one hand, yet insult me with highly charged negative language on the other is not MY idea of peace.
Perhaps I am over sensitive just now (and if so I apologise) but reading YOUR comments:
"Greg... I... see his where he's coming from..." and,
"...half-truths and guesses... he "blagged" that he knew about that stuff, when it was clear he knew nothing about it...",
sound to me like you are saying "you deserved this" because you "blag" your way through the board".
Do you know what "blag" actually means? It is UK slang and is highly offensive. Here is a dictionary definition: Robbery or theft, often a con or scam.
Do you realise that you are saying that "I con my way, that I cheat steal and scam, for some sort of personal gain" - when the truth is I made an honest mistake you have ONLY dredged up TWICE? ("First of all, this is only the SECOND time within a year that I've brought it up").
Why keep bringing it up in the first place? It is not some competition - yet this seems to be the very reason "I deserve" what happens to me! (or at least - that's how I read your opinions).
Ofcourse it is highly offensive and inflammatory language - and you wonder why I am insulted - or defensive?
We both know I am not a thief or a liar - so why make out that I am - I don't think I deserve this sort of treatment because you have been able to pick me up on a single solitary technical error. Do you?
How would you like to be inslted, to be called a cheat, a con, a liar, because you made a mistake about guitar tapping?
Not very nice is it?
Again, perhaps it is just my over sensitivity - but I do not accept that I deserve to be treated like public enemy number one simply because I answered a bloody question on a bloody notice board.
To say "Peace" on one hand, yet insult me with highly charged negative language on the other is not MY idea of peace.
Adam: I have no problem with you - nor do I wish to upset you in any way. If I appear over-reactive, then I am sorry.
I expect that you may not realise the full impact of what you have been saying. I also accept that perhaps English is not your native language.
But you can not use a culturally-loaded term like "blag" without it being used in a negative context.
Even under "friendly" conditions there are certain socially inappropriate words that are unacceptable.
To me, someone who makes a genuine mistake is a totally different person from a "blaggard". That is unless you ACTUALLY mean I am a cheat, a liar, a conman, and a swindler.
I would like to think you do NOT believe the latter. But as things stand, you are actually saying (and I paraphrase) "John S. Stuart deserves everything he gets because he is a cheat and a liar and a conman".
As I have said all along Adam, how can I be any of the above, if what I was saying was actually the truth?
Again, I apologise if I appear to be over-reactive, but I do hurt, and I do bleed, and to be discredited as a conman, is (I feel) a bit harsh.
I expect that you may not realise the full impact of what you have been saying. I also accept that perhaps English is not your native language.
But you can not use a culturally-loaded term like "blag" without it being used in a negative context.
Even under "friendly" conditions there are certain socially inappropriate words that are unacceptable.
To me, someone who makes a genuine mistake is a totally different person from a "blaggard". That is unless you ACTUALLY mean I am a cheat, a liar, a conman, and a swindler.
I would like to think you do NOT believe the latter. But as things stand, you are actually saying (and I paraphrase) "John S. Stuart deserves everything he gets because he is a cheat and a liar and a conman".
As I have said all along Adam, how can I be any of the above, if what I was saying was actually the truth?
Again, I apologise if I appear to be over-reactive, but I do hurt, and I do bleed, and to be discredited as a conman, is (I feel) a bit harsh.
John - have you lectured in China by chance? LOL
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/02/19/nchina19.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/02/19/ixnewstop.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/02/19/nchina19.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/02/19/ixnewstop.html
Bullwinkle: No it was not me - honest! But that story does highlight my point. I made one honest mistake about a year ago (for which I appologised) and it seems that it will be upcast for the rest of my life.
It's a strange zone here. I have delivered pages and pages of otherwise unavailable, solid, reliable material, and that one mistake is used to negate everything else!
It's a strange zone here. I have delivered pages and pages of otherwise unavailable, solid, reliable material, and that one mistake is used to negate everything else!
Oh please stop having a go at John, Adam (and not only you)! Everybody may make mistakes, but John has also posted lots of great informative posts and we can't just ban him for the rest of his life...
Greg was rather rude and he should've kept his mouth shut about John. If I were him, I'd be ashamed to ever talk again about John S. Stuart, after the shameful way his tapes were "lost". Greg has just spoiled the image of Queen Productions with his post.
Some zoners have had a go at John even in Freddie's Left Testicle's case. Doesn't anybody find it amazing that a liar like the latter was believed and John's statements were not only doubted, but also harshly critcised?!
Greg was rather rude and he should've kept his mouth shut about John. If I were him, I'd be ashamed to ever talk again about John S. Stuart, after the shameful way his tapes were "lost". Greg has just spoiled the image of Queen Productions with his post.
Some zoners have had a go at John even in Freddie's Left Testicle's case. Doesn't anybody find it amazing that a liar like the latter was believed and John's statements were not only doubted, but also harshly critcised?!
Greg has just spoiled the image of Queen Productions with his post.It's impossible- it's already been spoiled... Since GHIII or Rocks anyway...
Still didn't really answer my question though...unless this is some sort of thing that I can't comprehend.
It's a strange zone here. I have delivered pages and pages of otherwise unavailable, solid, reliable material, and that one mistake is used to negate everything else!
By whom? One person (Adam), perhaps? Add that to another poster who thinks you have a big ego (Jeffrey), and a public email from an archivist that has never posted here (Greg), and all of a sudden the Zone is against you? Are you overlooking the many other supportive, "I-believe-you-John-damn-everyone-else" posts in this thread and in your "QP pissed" thread?
I have avoided much of this debate so far simply because you rarely acknowledge me, John, but please don't accuse QZ of some mass action because a few people took issue with a couple of your comments. Perhaps you are being overly defensive now.
With Zeni on that one- John, you do react to every single wannabe attacking you immidietely, but do not notice "all the little ones" who say "yes John, thank you for your extremely interesting posts, keep'em coming!"- it almost seems like those posts are being taken for granted and there's no need to relate to them... The board isn't against you, majority do appriciate your knowledge and the fact that you share some rare infos with us- except for a handful of green with envy wannabes... Why focus on minority...?
Fenderek, Zeni: You are both correct and I have no excuse for my childish behaviour. May I say that I really appreciate you both, and all those who have supported me both here, and in the past. A very heart-felt thank-you.
When you leave this board for the "real" world, to get on with one's life, it really fades into obscurity and is forgettable.
But while you are here, alone, late at night, with a few drinks inside you, it amplifies the negative, and you start to believe that the world is against you.
Other social baggage like work, friends, spouse, children, tiredness or whatever that moment's emergency may be, also kicks in - and suddenly you (perhaps I should say I) feel the most unpopular man in the world.
I realise in the cold light of day this is not so, and that I should not let such ideas enter my head.
I am who I am. I write what I write. I make no apologies. It is imposible to seperate the "man from the genius" (a quote about George Best). I think the point is we are all who we are - warts and all - and rather fight it, we should accept it.
I know this is a bit of a ramble, but I really enjoy Queenzone. It is the BEST Queen site on the net - not because of me, but because of all you guys. I LEARN so much here.
Ofcourse I get angry, but I also laugh, and criticise and share, like you ALL do. That is the beauty of this zone, not the negative aspects, but the positive, and again, I thank you guys for your support and for pointing that out to me.
Cheers!
When you leave this board for the "real" world, to get on with one's life, it really fades into obscurity and is forgettable.
But while you are here, alone, late at night, with a few drinks inside you, it amplifies the negative, and you start to believe that the world is against you.
Other social baggage like work, friends, spouse, children, tiredness or whatever that moment's emergency may be, also kicks in - and suddenly you (perhaps I should say I) feel the most unpopular man in the world.
I realise in the cold light of day this is not so, and that I should not let such ideas enter my head.
I am who I am. I write what I write. I make no apologies. It is imposible to seperate the "man from the genius" (a quote about George Best). I think the point is we are all who we are - warts and all - and rather fight it, we should accept it.
I know this is a bit of a ramble, but I really enjoy Queenzone. It is the BEST Queen site on the net - not because of me, but because of all you guys. I LEARN so much here.
Ofcourse I get angry, but I also laugh, and criticise and share, like you ALL do. That is the beauty of this zone, not the negative aspects, but the positive, and again, I thank you guys for your support and for pointing that out to me.
Cheers!