As before. Please feel free to contribute. Very little remains from "Queen II". Followed so quickly behind the heels of the debut album "Queen", that the two sessions were almost cut back to back. For this reason their is a distinct lack of out-takes or alternative material. So much so Brian May had to recycle
an old 1968 home demo of "White Queen", (a song about a blind girl Brian had met). It was always Freddie's intention to end "Queen" and begin "Queen II" with "Seven Seas Of Rhye, but this time, he "lost the vote". Album was divided into two sides Side White and Side Black (representing the duality and co-existence between good and evil). Brian & Roger shared the credits for wiriting side white, While Freddie Mercury was sole responsibility for writing side black.
The song 'The Fairy Fellers Master Stroke' is based on a painting by Richard Dadd which is in the Tate Gallery in London.
1974
Queen II
Line-up: Freddie Mercury (Vocals), Brian May (guitar), Roger Taylor (drums), John Deacon (bass).
Recorded Trident Studios August 1973. Released UK 8th March 1974, US 9th April 1974.
Produced by Roy Thomas Baker & Queen: except Nevermore, produced by Robin Geoffrey Cable & Queen. March Of The Black Queen produced by Roy Thomas Baker, Robin Geoffrey Cable & Queen. Engineered by Mike Stone.
Procession
Album Version 1:17 Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
1998 eYe Stereo 1:12 Remix Electronic Arts DDE05501 101S
Father To Son
Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
Exposed Hybrid 5:49 Ending Exposed MC C-EXP 0491
Starlicks Video Edit Starlicks Video
White Queen
Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
7" Single 3" CDS EMI QUE CD5 (First EP)
BBC 03.04.1974 (4:41) Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc
Brian May 1968 Smile/home demo Unreleased
Someday, One day
Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
Loser In The End
Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
Lammey Mama’s Boy 4:09 Mix ISDN: Download
Ogre Battle
Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
BBC 03.12.1973 (4:01) Queen At The Beeb: BOJCD 001
BBC 03.12.1973 Long Lost Intro Ultimate Collection: Royalty Music RMCD 001
BBC 03.12.1973 Restored Hybrid (5:12) Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc
1991 Nicholas Sansano 3:30 Remix Queen II: US 1991 Hollywood HR-61232-2
Intro Edit: 35” Total Guitar CD Magazine
Fairy Feller's Master Stroke
Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
Nevermore
Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
BBC 03.04.1974 (1:28) Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc
Electric Piano Version Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc
March Of The Black Queen
Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
BBC 03.04.1974 (6:25): (Queen II Album version)
Starlicks Video Edit Starlicks Video
Lammy Reign & Rule 7:21 Remix ISDN: Download
Exposed Fake Mono Demo Exposed MC
Funny How Love Is
Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
Japan 3” CDs (2:53) Japan 3" CDS EMI TODP 2251
Original (1st Press) Cassette Tape Mix Queen II: TC M-M EMI TC EMA 767
Seven Seas Of Rhye
Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
1991 Freddie Bastone 6:43 Remix Queen II: US 1991 Hollywood HR-61232-2
Price 3:21 Remix ISDN: Download
Withdrawn Test Press Unreleased: As It Began p75
Top Of The Pops BBC TV Original Erased: (Rein's version?)
US Hollywood Promotional Video Unreleased: Home Video
Top Of The Pops BBC TV Video Unreleased: Home Video
See What A Fool I've Been
See What A Fool I’ve Been Smile: Royal Albert Hall 27th February 1969
BBC 25.07.1973 (4:18) Freddie's Boys At The Beeb: Bulsara Records
Album Version 4:36 Queen II: US 1991 Hollywood HR-61232-2
I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside
Acapella Version Unreleased:
Queen: Unreleased BBC Radio Session, 3rd April 1974
Recorded 03.04.1974. Broadcast 15.04.1974.
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You listed the following for Funny How Love Is:
- Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
- Japan 3” CDs (2:53) Japan 3" CDS EMI TODP 2251
- Original (1st Press) Cassette Tape Mix Queen II: TC M-M EMI TC EMA 767
There are a few more versions including:
UK 3” CD Single Version 3:15
Digital Master Sampler Edit 2:51
- Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
- Japan 3” CDs (2:53) Japan 3" CDS EMI TODP 2251
- Original (1st Press) Cassette Tape Mix Queen II: TC M-M EMI TC EMA 767
There are a few more versions including:
UK 3” CD Single Version 3:15
Digital Master Sampler Edit 2:51
And on this site: http://www.mercuryparadise.com under Back Chat you will find the picture of the FFMS painting also, on which I have put the names on the figures.
"There are a few more versions including:"
I'm sure there's more. Isn't John just listing his personal collection?
I'm sure there's more. Isn't John just listing his personal collection?
It isn`t so much that Freddie "lost the vote". The idea changed because, by one side, Seven Seas ended up being different to what they expected, it become a stronger track, better for closing the album (and releasing it as single).
The idea of black & white sides came after Fred wrote The March Of the Black Queen.
The idea of black & white sides came after Fred wrote The March Of the Black Queen.
Adam Unger (Queen Webworks):
You listed the following for Funny How Love Is:
- Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
- Japan 3” CDs (2:53) Japan 3" CDS EMI TODP 2251
- Original (1st Press) Cassette Tape Mix Queen II: TC M-M EMI TC EMA 767
There are a few more versions including:
UK 3” CD Single Version 3:15
Digital Master Sampler Edit 2:51
Yes, you are correct (and please feel free to answer guys) but I did not know where to draw the line.
I have focused on the music. I have not included Japanese 7" pic sleeves etc because the track is the same everytime. (So yes, it is based on my own collection). I think this is a fair enough stance to take.
But this is where I was stumped. Should I include ALL remastering edits and errors? EG: "Funny How Love Is" - UK 3” CD Single Version 3:15 & Digital Master Sampler Edit 2:51. Essentially - if you have the album, you have these versions (so I decided not to include them on my list), however, Adam has decided to include them on his.
I don't see this as a case of "right" or "wrong" - I just wondered how you guys prefered your information?
(Obviously I would include the French 7" Bo Rhap edit as it IS radically different - but what about these other cases?).
You listed the following for Funny How Love Is:
- Album Version Queen II: EMI CDP 7 46205 2
- Japan 3” CDs (2:53) Japan 3" CDS EMI TODP 2251
- Original (1st Press) Cassette Tape Mix Queen II: TC M-M EMI TC EMA 767
There are a few more versions including:
UK 3” CD Single Version 3:15
Digital Master Sampler Edit 2:51
Yes, you are correct (and please feel free to answer guys) but I did not know where to draw the line.
I have focused on the music. I have not included Japanese 7" pic sleeves etc because the track is the same everytime. (So yes, it is based on my own collection). I think this is a fair enough stance to take.
But this is where I was stumped. Should I include ALL remastering edits and errors? EG: "Funny How Love Is" - UK 3” CD Single Version 3:15 & Digital Master Sampler Edit 2:51. Essentially - if you have the album, you have these versions (so I decided not to include them on my list), however, Adam has decided to include them on his.
I don't see this as a case of "right" or "wrong" - I just wondered how you guys prefered your information?
(Obviously I would include the French 7" Bo Rhap edit as it IS radically different - but what about these other cases?).
John, re:
>(Obviously I would include the French 7" Bo >Rhap edit as it IS radically different - but >what about these other cases?).
I'd prefer to see variations added ONLY if the mastering / mixing of a track is radically different (ie change in feel / tempo) or if a track has been edited.
Other than that, I think you're doing a stunning job here.
>(Obviously I would include the French 7" Bo >Rhap edit as it IS radically different - but >what about these other cases?).
I'd prefer to see variations added ONLY if the mastering / mixing of a track is radically different (ie change in feel / tempo) or if a track has been edited.
Other than that, I think you're doing a stunning job here.
But this is where I was stumped. Should I include ALL remastering edits and errors? EG: "Funny How Love Is" - UK 3” CD Single Version 3:15 & Digital Master Sampler Edit 2:51. Essentially if you have the album, you have these versions (so I decided not to include them on my list), however, Adam has decided to include them on his.
I don't see this as a case of "right" or "wrong" - I just wondered how you guys prefered your information)
It's a matter of giving the most complete information. If the idea is to provide the most complete source available on Queen tracks, then I think they should be included for reference purposes. Of course, it's up to the listener to decide if they want to track them down or not.
My two cents
LOL: Ben v. Zeni both have great points to make, so I thought I would steer a middle line and satisfied neither.
So, do you want to fight for it - or shall we flip a coin?
Seriously though - both excellent points - leaving me with a dilema. Any other thoughts on Queen II?
So, do you want to fight for it - or shall we flip a coin?
Seriously though - both excellent points - leaving me with a dilema. Any other thoughts on Queen II?
what about my Uncovered Mix project? :)
besides that, I always wondered this... I heard (perhaps from you) that FHLI was a stand alone version on the first press cassettes and some acetates. This however means that MOTBQ must also be a stand alone version. So was FHLI indeed a stand alone version or just a diff mix?
you might also add the edited Ogre Battle bbc version which is on a Trident 7" acetate (runs 3:04min). It's not edited in a way as on At The Beeb!
besides that, I always wondered this... I heard (perhaps from you) that FHLI was a stand alone version on the first press cassettes and some acetates. This however means that MOTBQ must also be a stand alone version. So was FHLI indeed a stand alone version or just a diff mix?
you might also add the edited Ogre Battle bbc version which is on a Trident 7" acetate (runs 3:04min). It's not edited in a way as on At The Beeb!
RonB: FHLI was a stand alone version on the first press cassettes and some acetates. This however means that MOTBQ must also be a stand alone version. So was FHLI indeed a stand alone version or just a diff mix?
Funny Ron, but I never really thought about that before, but you are indeed correct, if one is stand alone, by definition, so must the other.
DOH!
what about my Uncovered Mix project? :)
Nothing personal - but I don't think I have ever heard that one.
Ron, I keep getting asked to answer/explain "what is an acetate?" Some people think acetate means "flimsy plastic" (which I suppose it does) - they have this idea of those free 45 rpm 7" singles which "Readers Digest" or teenage magazines used to give away free. Could you start an acetate thread to explain this for me please?
Funny Ron, but I never really thought about that before, but you are indeed correct, if one is stand alone, by definition, so must the other.
DOH!
what about my Uncovered Mix project? :)
Nothing personal - but I don't think I have ever heard that one.
Ron, I keep getting asked to answer/explain "what is an acetate?" Some people think acetate means "flimsy plastic" (which I suppose it does) - they have this idea of those free 45 rpm 7" singles which "Readers Digest" or teenage magazines used to give away free. Could you start an acetate thread to explain this for me please?
john re:
>So, do you want to fight for it - or shall we >flip a coin?
No - I'm right......
:-)
I certainly don't see the need to have any fan or other people's re-mixes of Queen tracks - it ought really to be kept to just having "official" versions of Queen songs that are unique to a particular release.
Hell, that might even satisfy everyone.....?
>So, do you want to fight for it - or shall we >flip a coin?
No - I'm right......
:-)
I certainly don't see the need to have any fan or other people's re-mixes of Queen tracks - it ought really to be kept to just having "official" versions of Queen songs that are unique to a particular release.
Hell, that might even satisfy everyone.....?
I consider edits or remixes as specific song versions. Pretty much anything that is a stand alone version or is edited differently than the album track i consider to be unique. I am pretty obsessive when it comes to song versions however.
Also, this is your list, not mine.. feel free to put whatever you wish :) I would be more interested however in as complete a list from you as possible.
Tee-hee...John called Brian, Frian...I'm sorry. Great info. I wish I knew this much about anything...even the cover of Bohemian Rhapsody.