Bohardy: Ah-ha. My mistake, sorry.
Still, you can't beat a good bit of misguided optimism.
No. Indeed not - and I hope your optimism is never dented! We all love happy endings!
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A mp3 of 'Carousel' can now be found at http://www.queendigital.com. Sorry for the delay in posting it.
Wilki: Excellent link. Having just listened - it is becomes blatantly obvious that it is NOT part of "Brigton Rock" at all, but another example of two seperate tracks either edited or cross-faded together. (Seb - where are you?).
Which leads to another very interesting question - whatever happed to the "Brighton Rock - stand alone version"?
Don't ask me - I don't know either. (Except that if the tape is missing - it no longer survives!)
Which leads to another very interesting question - whatever happed to the "Brighton Rock - stand alone version"?
Don't ask me - I don't know either. (Except that if the tape is missing - it no longer survives!)
PS:
Carousel (Fairground Intro) Unreleased: EMI "Inhouse funfair effects
& March" (Feature in the film "House On The Hill")
I would like to hear the full version of this track. It is supposed to come from an EMI album of fairground music and marches, but I have not been able to track this down. Any help?
Not quite what youre looking for but you may find this info interesting tho....
I have an LP by a band called ''The Fox'' who released an album called ''For Fox Sake'' on Fontana records in 1969 (cat. no. 6309 007). Track 5 side 2 is a 9 and a half minute epic called ''Madame Magical'' which uses the same fairground intro but a longer segment of it. One of the engineers on the album was Roy Baker (no ''Thomas'' in the middle of his credit) which would explain how the same obscure sound effects recording came to be used on both albums. Unfortunately the Fox album is long deleted and as far as I know has never been released on CD, last time I looked it up in Record Collectors price guide it was valued at 50 quid but with Ebay and such it might be a bit easier to pick up a copy now, failing that, as soon as I get a new stylus for my turntable I can create a CD copy for those that might be interested in hearing this gem of an album.
Stu.
That is a very interesting connection, Stu. ...And that band is from Brighton!
By the way, I am starting to wonder how many tracks feature the same fanfarre recording.
By the way, I am starting to wonder how many tracks feature the same fanfarre recording.
John, I find your last comment a bit bizarre to be honest.
If I understand you correctly, you seem to be surprised in some way that the Carousel piece of music is totally distinct to Brighton Rock. What were you expecting to hear on that MP3?
Wilki's version purports to be the original Carousel soundscape, and quite obviously Queen decided to use the first 25 seconds of it as an intro to Brighton Rock, fading out Carousel as they fade in their recording of Brighton Rock.
We didn't even really need to hear this standalone version of Carousel to know that that's what happened.
Or am I totally missing your point?
If I understand you correctly, you seem to be surprised in some way that the Carousel piece of music is totally distinct to Brighton Rock. What were you expecting to hear on that MP3?
Wilki's version purports to be the original Carousel soundscape, and quite obviously Queen decided to use the first 25 seconds of it as an intro to Brighton Rock, fading out Carousel as they fade in their recording of Brighton Rock.
We didn't even really need to hear this standalone version of Carousel to know that that's what happened.
Or am I totally missing your point?
Bohardy: You are correct, I did not need to hear it to know that - and perhaps I was re-stating the obvious.
What I was trying to point out is - wouldn't it be NICE to hear the "unmixed version" of "Brighton Rock" in a more primitive, raw, stand-alone version which would hopefully echo a more live "feel".
I know that the safety masters have been kept - so there is no way that they could be seperated back into different "bits" from that tape (as a safety master is a copy of the finally mixed album).
However, if all the original tapes still survived - then this task would not be too difficult, but as this is not the case, then I suppose that by hearing this track - I can at least now imagine how "Brigton Rock" may have sounded without it.
(For me with no musical talent or imagination that is a great deal because those "whip cracks" last for a while well past just the opening bit - and the bit employed by Queen is much longer than I originally thought)".
I hope that makes some kind of sense.
What I was trying to point out is - wouldn't it be NICE to hear the "unmixed version" of "Brighton Rock" in a more primitive, raw, stand-alone version which would hopefully echo a more live "feel".
I know that the safety masters have been kept - so there is no way that they could be seperated back into different "bits" from that tape (as a safety master is a copy of the finally mixed album).
However, if all the original tapes still survived - then this task would not be too difficult, but as this is not the case, then I suppose that by hearing this track - I can at least now imagine how "Brigton Rock" may have sounded without it.
(For me with no musical talent or imagination that is a great deal because those "whip cracks" last for a while well past just the opening bit - and the bit employed by Queen is much longer than I originally thought)".
I hope that makes some kind of sense.
In theory (and please bear those two words in mind) you should be able to remake that 'stand alone version' from the regular album mix and the original Carousel. I am not saying it is an easy task, but it can be done.
Stu: Very original and interesting research there.
Can you tell me, this band "The Foxx", are they related to the UK mid-1970's band "Foxx" who had hits with "Single Bed" and "Only You Can"?
BTW: It's nice when we all pool our collective resources, so that we can bring such details into a sharper focus. That to me, is what a real fan's forum is all about.
This is NOT meant as any sort of negative comment - just an observation only - but with the disctinct lack of any official information coming from primary sources like QP, I think that "Queenzone" is the next best place on the planet.
We may not have the complete picture in full focus - but what we do have is a really good solid general overview, which is second to none.
Can you tell me, this band "The Foxx", are they related to the UK mid-1970's band "Foxx" who had hits with "Single Bed" and "Only You Can"?
BTW: It's nice when we all pool our collective resources, so that we can bring such details into a sharper focus. That to me, is what a real fan's forum is all about.
This is NOT meant as any sort of negative comment - just an observation only - but with the disctinct lack of any official information coming from primary sources like QP, I think that "Queenzone" is the next best place on the planet.
We may not have the complete picture in full focus - but what we do have is a really good solid general overview, which is second to none.
John, I wish to share a little bit of information with you.
There is a group of people in this one university in the USA who are trying to perfect a totally new and innovative method of transferring vinyl records to hard disk.
This method does NOT use a needle, but uses something that literally reads the waveforms, and converts these waveforms to digital wave signals.
This way, there is no physical contact with the record.
I forget what this technology is called, but it was posted on Brian May's website, and I found it very interesting (in fact, I'd like to get some of my rare records transferred this way).
As well, I think it's a bit selfish of you not to share Hangman with QP.
Perhaps you should sell it to them and retire with the money instead (you can buy more acetates otherwise!)
There is a group of people in this one university in the USA who are trying to perfect a totally new and innovative method of transferring vinyl records to hard disk.
This method does NOT use a needle, but uses something that literally reads the waveforms, and converts these waveforms to digital wave signals.
This way, there is no physical contact with the record.
I forget what this technology is called, but it was posted on Brian May's website, and I found it very interesting (in fact, I'd like to get some of my rare records transferred this way).
As well, I think it's a bit selfish of you not to share Hangman with QP.
Perhaps you should sell it to them and retire with the money instead (you can buy more acetates otherwise!)
Inu: Thank you for your opinion - but what has "Hangman" to do with a "Sheer Heart Attack" thread?
I know the following do not belong to this thread.
Inu: Optical reading of mechanical recordings such as discs and cilynders is more wishful thinking than anything. I know there are some prototypes for vinyl discs, but sound quality is way below the achieved by traditional means. And each disc has to be precisely calibrated.
Inu: Optical reading of mechanical recordings such as discs and cilynders is more wishful thinking than anything. I know there are some prototypes for vinyl discs, but sound quality is way below the achieved by traditional means. And each disc has to be precisely calibrated.
The only movie I could find under the title "House On The Hill" on www.imdb.com is from 1914, so I find it unlikely it's the movie you're talking about.
Could somebody please shed some light and say specifically what movie was the 'Carousel' music taken from?
Could somebody please shed some light and say specifically what movie was the 'Carousel' music taken from?
Oh, thanks.
I think it's the earlier version of the movie we're talking about (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0051744/), because the link you gave points to the remake (I think).
I think it's the earlier version of the movie we're talking about (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0051744/), because the link you gave points to the remake (I think).