Sorry to tell you, buy youre TOTALLY wrong. If you had bothered to read any of this thread....
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Sorry to tell you but I am TOTALLY right. And I suppose Wembley also has no overdubs ?
Negative Creep: Have you actually watched the Rainbow gig recently? Everything NTL said was absolutely spot-on.
If YOU'D bothered to read any of this thread you'd see that only you are so deaf and blind as to believe that there are no overdubs on Rainbow, and so far there've been 4 people (5 including me) that believe, actually make that KNOW, that the exact opposite is true.
As NTL said, the overdubbing is so obvious it's almost cringeworthy, almost as cringeworthy in fact as your naive belief that there are no overdubs.
If YOU'D bothered to read any of this thread you'd see that only you are so deaf and blind as to believe that there are no overdubs on Rainbow, and so far there've been 4 people (5 including me) that believe, actually make that KNOW, that the exact opposite is true.
As NTL said, the overdubbing is so obvious it's almost cringeworthy, almost as cringeworthy in fact as your naive belief that there are no overdubs.
yawn... I have actually watched it very recently & its bullshit that theres are loads of overdubs. Its comments made by people like yourself that don't understand the techniques used to mix the recording. Also, do you actually think the band would have had the funds or given the funds to go in to a studio to overdub a live recording that was never intended for proper release? Don't think so! I dont think you quite realise how incredibly difficult it would have been for them at that time to have overdubbed anything considering they would have already used up pretty much all the channels on the tape. They also must have worked miracles totally removing vocals from a primitive live recording and overdubbing them to sound so naturally live. I think youve forgotten it was filmed and recorded in 1974 darling.
I'm well aware of the overdubs on Wembley - for a start its fuckin obvious from watching parts of it, but it was also common practise by that point to overdub live recordings as they had the technology!
I know during KQ, maybe even other songs, you can clearly hear the reverb of the actual lead vocal.
As for the arpeggio (sp?) at the beginning of F2S, i just though they played the tape.
i've never heard another live version so i have nothing to compare.
As for the arpeggio (sp?) at the beginning of F2S, i just though they played the tape.
i've never heard another live version so i have nothing to compare.
Yes, thats played over the PA via tape, exactly like Procession and the siren sounds on Now I'm Here.
Next, people will be claiming Live Killers is heavily overdubbed too.
Next, people will be claiming Live Killers is heavily overdubbed too.
Was that supposed to be sarcastic ?, as Live Killers is heavily overdubbed.
live killers - ah yes, that (ahem) classic!!!
23 tracks taken from over 50 concerts - some serious fekkin editing...and some classiy overdubs - that make the whole concert experience sound washed out
23 tracks taken from over 50 concerts - some serious fekkin editing...and some classiy overdubs - that make the whole concert experience sound washed out
I'm not doubting the LK overdubs by any means, but is there really anything substantial?
I know little thinks like the pop in Bicycle Race
and the echo on Freddie's into to NIH were done.
btw:
I did do a quick search and didn't find any info,
so sorry if this is somewhere in the open.
I know little thinks like the pop in Bicycle Race
and the echo on Freddie's into to NIH were done.
btw:
I did do a quick search and didn't find any info,
so sorry if this is somewhere in the open.
www.geocities.com/qzboots/pages/lkanalysis.htm
You could do a lot worse than check this great site out!!! But be warned - you'll never listen to the album in the same way again!!!!
You could do a lot worse than check this great site out!!! But be warned - you'll never listen to the album in the same way again!!!!
I suggest that you thank the QZoner who made the site. Sir GH, where are you?
Absolutely: THANK YOU!
I must have read a reference to this sometime in the past to know about the bits I mentioned.
Can't remember where, though.
Very cool.
Thanks to the creator and thanks for pointing me to it.
I must have read a reference to this sometime in the past to know about the bits I mentioned.
Can't remember where, though.
Very cool.
Thanks to the creator and thanks for pointing me to it.
Did you all know that "Live At The Rainbow" was shown in some theaters?! Did you know that it was shown before a certain other film? Do you know what film that that was? It was Led Zeppelin's "The Song Remains The Same". Supposedly this was only done in select theaters.
yawn... I have actually watched it very recently & its bullshit that theres are loads of overdubs. Its comments made by people like yourself that don't understand the techniques used to mix the recording. Also, do you actually think the band would have had the funds or given the funds to go in to a studio to overdub a live recording that was never intended for proper release? Don't think so! I dont think you quite realise how incredibly difficult it would have been for them at that time to have overdubbed anything considering they would have already used up pretty much all the channels on the tape. They also must have worked miracles totally removing vocals from a primitive live recording and overdubbing them to sound so naturally live. I think youve forgotten it was filmed and recorded in 1974 darling.
Actually, starting in the mid 70's, it was VERY common to do overdubs on live albums. Members of The Grateful Dead have admitted there's lots of overdubs on their Europe '72 album (keyboardist Merl Saunders, who did not play with The Dead on that tour, even recieved a gold album for his participation in the overdubs).
It's been said that most of Frampton Comes Alive was heavily overdubbed, and Tony Visconti, who produced Thin Lizzy's Live And Dangerous, claims that on that album, the only thing they DIDN'T overdub was the drums! It's amazing the things you can do with overdubs.
As for Live At The Rainbow not being filmed by the BBC, I could have sworn they were mentioned in the closing credits. I recognize the names in the closing credits (ie producer, director, etc) as having been involved in other concerts that the BBC produced, and the style of the closing credits match those shows too.