Reading all those discussions... Everywhere everyone says about the name, about remembering Freddie... about us against the idea or pro... Saying that Queen died in 1991 or not, threatening almost to burn entire collections ( :) )
But- do we own this band...? as fans- it seems like many ppl lost any sense of reality- yes, we buy records and tickets and whatever, but...
we do not own the band, do we?
We may say- I don't like it and not be part of it, but sometimes it goes too far, doesn't it? It's almost as if Queen legacy was OUR property and Roger and Brian are absolutely obliged to do with it what WE (as owners) want... Isn't it a bit weird...? Isn't it THEIR band, THEIR music...? Isn't it THEIR decission to either disband or go on tour...? We liked it in 70s and 80s- no one forced us... They were doing THEIR thing and we just liked it, loved it....
Suddenly, when their changed their mind (doing sth under Queen banner after Fred's death)- we're acting as if someone was stealing sth from us...
It's not THEM who owe us something- WE owe them the right t odo whatever the hell they want- THEIR music changed our lives, THEY were touring for so many years giving us hours of fun, THEY recorded some great albums giving us some memories... And THEY owe us something...?
Just a thought...
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totally agree with fenderek
Nice to read this. I also think along those lines. Queen have too many cocky fans.
I own them... And all of you for that matter!
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Now, On a serious note, Nice topic! ;)
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Now, On a serious note, Nice topic! ;)
To nie tak.Mam gdzies polityczna poprawnosc.Nienawidze kiedy nie wolno mi mowic tego co czuje,bo cos tam.Prezydenta np. tez nie masz na wlasnosc,ale to nie znaczy,ze nie mozesz na niego powrzucac,jesli uwazasz,ze to swinia.Tak,tak,wiem-odpowiesz,ze tamten jest w sluzbie publicznej,a nasi panowie od 30 juz lat robia nam dobrze.Niemniej,wsciekam sie, kiedy ludzie odmawiaja mi prawa do wypowiedzenia na glos swojego zdania.Przeciez jestesmy myslacymi ludzmi i w domysle kazdy zaczyna swoja wypowiedz "za" czy "przeciw" od "moim zdaniem".
Chyba nic w tym zlego.
Mnie akurat troche zabolal ten nius o trasie,bo jak ktos umiera i mimo uplywu czasu wciaz ci go brakuje,to nie sposob nie zauwazyc bez przykrosci,ze zycie i swiat toczy sie bez tego kogos.A ja akurat zawsze przykrosc staram sie pokrywac zloscia i agresja.
wiem,ze to nieladnie mowic w towarzystwie w jezyku,ktorego inni nie rozumieja,ale wyjatkowo nie chcialo mi sie gadac ze wszystkimi.How rude!
Szacunek.
Chyba nic w tym zlego.
Mnie akurat troche zabolal ten nius o trasie,bo jak ktos umiera i mimo uplywu czasu wciaz ci go brakuje,to nie sposob nie zauwazyc bez przykrosci,ze zycie i swiat toczy sie bez tego kogos.A ja akurat zawsze przykrosc staram sie pokrywac zloscia i agresja.
wiem,ze to nieladnie mowic w towarzystwie w jezyku,ktorego inni nie rozumieja,ale wyjatkowo nie chcialo mi sie gadac ze wszystkimi.How rude!
Szacunek.
Go Fenderek Go... I'm your biggest fan! Lara, I totally agree... that's very rude. (-;
Totally agree with you, Fenderek ! Excellent Thread !!!
Absolutely agree with fenderek. Can't believe the audacity of some people. Brian & Roger have the absolute right both legally and morally to do whatever they like. We, the record/ticket buying public, have the right to make a personal decision as to whether or not to support them. Personally I feel that they've given me so much over the last 30 years that if they decide that this tour feels right for them, that's good enough for me, and Queen + Paul Rodgers sounds just fine.
Yeah!! FENDEREK FOR PRESIDENT!!
To nie tak.Mam gdzies polityczna poprawnosc.Nienawidze kiedy nie wolno mi mowic tego co czuje,bo cos tam.Prezydenta np. tez nie masz na wlasnosc,ale to nie znaczy,ze nie mozesz na niego powrzucac,jesli uwazasz,ze to swinia.Tak,tak,wiem-odpowiesz,ze tamten jest w sluzbie publicznej,a nasi panowie od 30 juz lat robia nam dobrze.Niemniej,wsciekam sie, kiedy ludzie odmawiaja mi prawa do wypowiedzenia na glos swojego zdania.Przeciez jestesmy myslacymi ludzmi i w domysle kazdy zaczyna swoja wypowiedz "za" czy "przeciw" od "moim zdaniem".
Chyba nic w tym zlego.
Mnie akurat troche zabolal ten nius o trasie,bo jak ktos umiera i mimo uplywu czasu wciaz ci go brakuje,to nie sposob nie zauwazyc bez przykrosci,ze zycie i swiat toczy sie bez tego kogos.A ja akurat zawsze przykrosc staram sie pokrywac zloscia i agresja.
wiem,ze to nieladnie mowic w towarzystwie w jezyku,ktorego inni nie rozumieja,ale wyjatkowo nie chcialo mi sie gadac ze wszystkimi.How rude!
Szacunek.
OK- but I'll answer in English, all right? :)
I don't care about political correctness either- in fact, I'm totally against it!!! It's not about NOT TALKING what we feel or having a right to criticise. We all have right to do so and actually I'm the one who is using this right a lot on this board!!! How many times ppl went berserk when I criticised Wembley or Works or collaboration with Britney. I'm far from being stepford, and most pp, here I'm sure know that! Yes- we have the right to say what we think and we SHOULD do tjust that!!! But it makes me laugh when ppl suddenly go abnanas because THEIR favourite band made a move they dissaprove. It's different with politics- politicians DO STEAL from you, their decissions may hurt many people; we shouldn't criticise that- we should stop that and make them responsible for whatever mess they're doing!!! But it's MUSIC we're talking about! No-one is stealing anything from fans!!!!! Memories? we still have them, don't we? Sentiments? They're still there! It's not religion!!! (and even religion we treat too seriously!!!) It's music- it's entertainment, it's fun! Queeen never tried to change the world- they were having a lot of fun and because we liked the music they did- they earned a lot of money! But it's their music and their band and they're not stealing anything from anyone!!! You may not like what they do (just like I hate WATC with Robbie...) and cool! Criticise! But saying "I don't like it" rather tahn "how can they do it to Freddie" or "they have no right". If anyone has- it's them! They were playing with Mercury for 20 years, not us! And c'mon- it's been 13 years ago- he's dead! His music didn't die, but he's gone! How can you miss him anyway??? You never knew him!!! You became a fan in 1991- he was already dead!!! YOu can't miss him!!! Brian and Roger can! You know him through his music- it's still HERE!!!! It's not going anywhere!!!! Why abgry and sad then??? I never knew the guy, he was never my friend... his music changed my life- I'm a musician myself! But I don't miss him; and he's not my God or anything like that. I don't own the spirit of Freddie. no one does. You can have your own VISION of it. And no one- EVER- will take it away from you. Especially not by touring with paul Rodgers...
You're a voice of reason. Kudos to you.
What are you all complaining about .... the "other" Queen fans have their fucking right to say they don`t like it - we might say that you go too far defending everything Brian and Roger do. You are always talking about THEY gave us the joy, the music, we should not complain therefore .... BUT you seem to forget that THEY are not just Roger and Brian, BUT also FREDDIE and JOHN.
Speaking of myself, Freddie Mercury was mostly the reason I began to listen to Queen, I became a Queen fan when HE died, he wrote most of the Queen-songs i prefer (although my greatest song of Queen besides BoRap is Radio Ga Ga by Taylor), it was his stage show, his voice, his outrageous performances in the videos that I admire most, he even created the fucking Queen crest, besides that I prefer John as a songwriter over Roger. So I owe Freddie much more than Brian and Roger. For me Queen could only exist as long as the four were together (even if Freddie was the most important member), because especially Brian May together with Freddie created the classic Queen sound. - So its easy to see why Queen ended in 1991. John seems to accept it - so why can`t you?
Roger and Brian still can do music, together or solo. I even went to a Brian May-solo concert, so I care not just about Freddie. But they can`t ressurect something that is no more. Pretending being Queen without Freddie, is like being the Stones without Mick Jagger - it doesn`t work. They even said so ín the past ("Queen is over,..etc."). Now you will say they can change their mind - come on its not like: "I didn`t like fish, but from now on I`m going to eat it". If they have a bit of respect for Freddie and John their tour under another name. Besides that you also don`t like to see facts in the face. Why do they want to be Queen again... of course because they love it, but also because they think they may gonna be successful again (because solo they really aren`t so much!)... but they can`t fool people. I will listen to songs if Brian and Roger play them under their own name, but I won`t buy a Freddie-replacement like Paul Rodgers. I hope I have made the point clear.
Speaking of myself, Freddie Mercury was mostly the reason I began to listen to Queen, I became a Queen fan when HE died, he wrote most of the Queen-songs i prefer (although my greatest song of Queen besides BoRap is Radio Ga Ga by Taylor), it was his stage show, his voice, his outrageous performances in the videos that I admire most, he even created the fucking Queen crest, besides that I prefer John as a songwriter over Roger. So I owe Freddie much more than Brian and Roger. For me Queen could only exist as long as the four were together (even if Freddie was the most important member), because especially Brian May together with Freddie created the classic Queen sound. - So its easy to see why Queen ended in 1991. John seems to accept it - so why can`t you?
Roger and Brian still can do music, together or solo. I even went to a Brian May-solo concert, so I care not just about Freddie. But they can`t ressurect something that is no more. Pretending being Queen without Freddie, is like being the Stones without Mick Jagger - it doesn`t work. They even said so ín the past ("Queen is over,..etc."). Now you will say they can change their mind - come on its not like: "I didn`t like fish, but from now on I`m going to eat it". If they have a bit of respect for Freddie and John their tour under another name. Besides that you also don`t like to see facts in the face. Why do they want to be Queen again... of course because they love it, but also because they think they may gonna be successful again (because solo they really aren`t so much!)... but they can`t fool people. I will listen to songs if Brian and Roger play them under their own name, but I won`t buy a Freddie-replacement like Paul Rodgers. I hope I have made the point clear.
But they can`t ressurect something that is no more.
I think you'll find that they have, can and will no matter what you say.
But that doesn`t make it better ... have much fun at this ridiculous nostalgia act (thats what it is, there is not even any new material) ... I prefer going to concerts of rock stars that still exist and make new material (David Bowie or Duran Duran for example)
But that doesn`t make it better ... have much fun at this ridiculous nostalgia act (thats what it is, there is not even any new material) ... I prefer going to concerts of rock stars that still exist and make new material (David Bowie or Duran Duran for example)
Ah but I'm a sucker for nostalgia.