Maybe we should give them right to do what they wanna do in ALL ways, no just for the ways WE choosed?
we pay,we make em rich....WE DECIDE
That's probably the stupidest logic I've ever heard. We're not their employer, and we certainly have no say in what they do, not that we should anyway.
We don't own them, but they owe us. Try to remember thanks to whom they have their millions.
Disagree...
They made those money themselves- no one forced us to buy those tickets / records etc... They played their music- we liked it and bought it. Not for them, so they'll get richer, but because WE LIKED IT, we bought it for OURSELVES. That evens things, don't you think...?
We owe them something, though. I for once became musician, influenced by their music,. And have some great memories because of their music...
i ask how any of you feel if someone came to tell you how to do your job... job who is your 30 year effort, YOUR life... with all the rewards and costs.....
They have the right to do anything they want... they were partnerts with freddie and john.. not us...
All of us had right to give our thoughts.. but thats what it is.. just a fan thought...
and sometimes they heard us
but this time we are getting too far i think deciding what they can or cant
No John-
this could work if we hire the band / artist- we pay / we want
In case of pop / rock act- they're doing something it's THEIRS, the music they maybe enjoy or hope will sell-
we are joining them in this, because we like it. We do not tell the band- next record has to be like that and that. They record album, doing whatever they want and than we like it and go to see the promouting gig or not. we're not ordering- I can't understand where is this idea of them being for us from... They do not belong to us. Queen doesn't belong to us. Variation of it, our own vision- yes. But QUEEN as a band belongs only to those who are / were members. Simple. Just like any other band... And we paid our money, because we liked what they did. We got great records, memories and soundtracks to our lives- they got the money and fame. It's already even...
To nie tak.Mam gdzies polityczna poprawnosc.Nienawidze kiedy nie wolno mi mowic tego co czuje,bo cos tam.Prezydenta np. tez nie masz na wlasnosc,ale to nie znaczy,ze nie mozesz na niego powrzucac,jesli uwazasz,ze to swinia.Tak,tak,wiem-odpowiesz,ze tamten jest w sluzbie publicznej,a nasi panowie od 30 juz lat robia nam dobrze.Niemniej,wsciekam sie, kiedy ludzie odmawiaja mi prawa do wypowiedzenia na glos swojego zdania.Przeciez jestesmy myslacymi ludzmi i w domysle kazdy zaczyna swoja wypowiedz "za" czy "przeciw" od "moim zdaniem".
Chyba nic w tym zlego...
This is how I see it; if Brian and Roger start a new tour and still call it "Queen", if you're one of those people who think <i>Queen aren't Queen without Freddie and John</i>, then don't think of them as Queen, just because John and Freddie are gone, doesn't mean you shouldn't see them. Sure, you won't get the performance with Freddie and John, but still, Brian's one of the top guitarists and Roger's a pretty good drummer, you know their talents. Freddie would probably be insulted by that, his band's living on and people are refusing to go to it because he's not in it?
I guess what I'm trying to say is just because Freddie's gone, doesn't mean that Roger and Brian suck now, you can still mourn Freddie but start thinking about <b>their</b> talents.
Wow, there is a LOT of passion out there!! You are spot on Fenderek - nobody forces us to buy Queen music, we do it (& keep doing it) because we enjoy it and get a lot of pleasure out of it. If we didn't Queen wouldn't have had the success they did.
We only know Freddie through the music he made - no-one knows the man (as much as we like to think we do). Only Brian & Roger and a handful of others are in that position.
A LOT of fans are hanging out for Queen to get together again to enjoy the music again, and go to their concerts, so STOP BITCHING ALL OF YOU!!
Good ta see that everyone here is arguing just as much as we are over there. =) Bottom line is this is news, and very much worth discussing, and either loving or hating the idea. I personally believe it to be a bunch of bullshit, and in reading every response here, it seems as though it is just as split as one would imagine.
No, we do not own the band, and they are free to do what they wish, but I do not have to be happy about it. Some are like "Yeah we are going to see "Queen". You are not going to see Queen. Yes, some ex-Queen members will be up on stage, playing some Queen songs for ya, but you are not seeing Queen. Some say "If you want the old Queen, then stay home and watch them on DVD"...that is totally not the point. There comes a time with every band when you have your time, and it is gone. It is just a fact of the business. It amazes me that some genuine Queen fans here will accept anything, just so they can get a whiff of what once was. So many saying "Of course it will not be as good without Freddie...but?" But what?
This whole idea diminishes the brand known as Queen, and even though you feel that way, and won't admit it, you don't mind, because you may get a chance to sing Headlong. I simply think that the true Queen fans, the ones who truly appreciate the original four members and what they did together, are the ones who are not happy with this idea. Its amazing that some are willing to accept someone else playing bass, and are asking who do you think it will be...as if it does not even matter. So if Another one Bites the Dust, or Under Pressure come on, its ok for someone wearing sunglasses with a bass to play this, because hey...this is Queen...this is our band. So what if it isn't John, so what if it isn't Freddie...this is still Queen. Fuck yeah its Queen, and it is even more like Queen when after I want It All, they play Rock and Roll Fantasy. How'z about going from that right into Somebody to Love, and then just to make a smooth Queen like segue, they move into Feel like Making Love? Fantastic...so Queen!
I posed this question on QOL 3 times, and not once did anyone answer it, so maybe someone will here. I asked..."If Roger Taylor decided to pull back from this whole idea, and Brian still wanted to forge ahead, would it still be Queen to you guys if it was Just Brian on stage with a new drummer, bassist and lead singer?"
But as an answer, that's what mjordy wrote in other thread:
mrjordy wrote:
LONG, INTROSPECTIVE POST, BUT WORTH READING
Ok, boys and girls. I think - I know that the majority of us will never see anyone other than Freddie Mercury as the lead singer of Queen, simply because that is the fact of the matter. Freddie was and is the lead singer of Queen. Unfortunately, Freddie's life was cut way too short and we were left with Brian, Roger and John to carry on the Queen flag. John decided not to. A few years go by, Queen in its present day is Roger and Brian, who happen to have a hit musical out. Roger and Brian go to the openings of WWRY, see their songs being cheered on by packed houses and start to miss playing those songs themselves. Hall Of Fame comes up. Someone has to sing. Paul Rodgers doesn't fill Freddie's shoes or replace Freddie, he just stands in for the lead singer who couldn't make it. It worked out. Paul wasn't terrible. He sang quite nicely, I think. Paul's no Freddie. Paul never will be, nor will anyone else. I think maybe the closest we get to Freddie is in ourselves - when we're watching Queen: Live At Wembly 86, perhaps, and catch ourselves prancing around our bedroom with a broom handle, singing the absolute hell out of some Queen songs - perhaps just like Freddie. Maybe Paul Rodgers feels the same way. When the tour begins and Paul proves that he's either worthy of "filling in" for Freddie or not, let us judge then. This has been said by others, of course, in other words.
I am a 24 year old guy who never had the chance to see Queen live until September of this year - with no Freddie. I think and have always thought that Freddie made Queen. Freddie was and is Queen. On the night of the Las Vegas premiere, I attended the after-party concert. It was strange, sitting there listening to those songs, hearing others sing Freddie's words. Let me assure you - hearing Brian and Roger play together almost drowned out that strange feeling. Freddie's in that music. You can't help but hear him. He's everywhere when you hear the boys play live in this day. To those of you who can, go see Queen + Paul Rodgers or whatever the hell you want to call the lineup. Don't just imagine Freddie being there, enjoy the music. Enjoy it for what it is now. For those of us who were too young to see Queen live when Freddie was alive, here is our chance. We are missing out on seeing, of course, the biggest rock legend that ever was - but we have the chance to see his backup band. We have the chance to see the people who put together some of the songs Freddie sang - the people who played those songs. Don't shit on Paul before giving him a go. To those of you who won't have the chance to go or are contemplating, check out my story and pictures of the September Queen show at
http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/wwryvegas
I do not take anything away from mjordy's post. It is very well written, and just as much a valid statement, as the one's who feel otherwise. Like I said on QOL, all I ask if for people to admit that it is not Queen up on stage, and everything else people have to say about this concert, will be absolutely right. Queen songs are being played, but it is not Queen. Yeah this has been said by others, but I feel the same way. It is a quasi-Queen tribute band.
OK Brooklyn- i'll agree with you- quasi tribute band, with two original members. Whatever, I'd add. that's their band and if they want to be just that- fine by me, I'm going to have a good time at gigs- that's all that matters. BUT- some people react as if it was tragedy, as if someone betreyed them or took something important from them How ridiculous...!!!. That's pretty much what this thread is about- no one is stealing anything from anyone...
It seems there are so many different people willing to pay the piper here that finally the decision is upon the band again, because for everything they do they will find someone to pay them for and whose wishes they fulfil.
I hope you are not serious, John, because YES you are right, but not the way you think you are - it's not that easy with ten million people all trying to call different tunes in this case.
