Fenderek-
I'm 26, and was probably a Queen fan when you were trying to grow pube's and still questioning your own sexuality.
Freddie is the shining star of the band we know as Queen.... without Freddie, there never would have been world reknown fame.
Freddie would have eventually made it....
unless Taylor/May hooked up with Robert Plant, those 2 had no shot at fame IMHO.
In the USA, No One on the street would have the slightest clue who Brian May, Roger Taylor, or John Deacon are.
Remember, the USA is the land where many artists of yesterday and today feel YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT AT to really be a star.
In the USA, our radio stations introduce this great band we all love as "Freddie Mercury and Queen".
Or...when a Queen song goes off, 9 times out of 10 the DJ will say, "that was the late great Freddie Mercury with Bohemian Rhapsody".
May/Taylor/ and the hoarse Englishman aren't sure if they are touring the USA, because over here, Americans will say "Where the hell is the buck tooth gay guy with the kick ass voice".
Queen is my favorite band.
But unlike some, I'm not delusional.
I see Queen as 4 (somewhat equal members) ....with Taylor/Deacon/May...and their management all saying in various interviews "If Freddie really wanted something, that was just the way it was going to be done, or you payed dearly...so we'd all give in".
Translation = Freddie had most of the power.
By the way... I did not say that Freddie "taught everyone how to play their instruments".
But its like this: Listen to old Smile tapes...or anything of Brian May playing around 1969, 1970...he's a mediocre guitar player at best (I am a graduate of the Berklee school of music, and have wrote/contributed to many articles, magazines, and books on guitar playing)...so I am qualified for this judgement.
Freddie wasn't the god of vocals either in 1968....but by 1973, he was fantastic.
In 1973, Freddie was 5 times the muscian that any of the other were.
There is no reason why I have to argue this...
Roger has stated about 10 times in print, or on video that Queen would have never happened without Freddie's vision and preserverance.
Enough said.
If you think May/Taylor some no name players in the dark and the hoarse Englishman is "seeing Queen".... then do some LSD to enhance your delusions.
I'll go check it out to see 2 of my favorite musicians....but the next morning, I know better than to say I saw Brian May & Roger Taylor to anyone...
unless I am on Queenzone, no one will know who I'm talking about.....
Of course, when I mention Freddie Mercury/Queen... it will become clearer.
You can argue this all you like....but in the USA this is reality.
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By the way....while I've been a pro guitarist at least 1/2 of my 26 years, you would think that Brian would be my favorite member.... however, it is Freddie.
Freddie has the "It" factor that legends are made of.
All 4 members of Queen are rock stars.... 1 is a legend, and its not Taylor or May.
Freddie has the "It" factor that legends are made of.
All 4 members of Queen are rock stars.... 1 is a legend, and its not Taylor or May.
I live in the USA and you are full of it.
They don't introduce the band as "Freddie Mercury and Queen" on the radio.
And of course Freddie gets mentioned a lot, just like all late, great artists. Vincent Van Gogh was a nobody while he was alive.
You might wanna check your bucket to see if there's any holes in it because it sure don't hold any water.
Please don't try to use your ideas to represent the United States. The world hates us enough as it is.
They don't introduce the band as "Freddie Mercury and Queen" on the radio.
And of course Freddie gets mentioned a lot, just like all late, great artists. Vincent Van Gogh was a nobody while he was alive.
You might wanna check your bucket to see if there's any holes in it because it sure don't hold any water.
Please don't try to use your ideas to represent the United States. The world hates us enough as it is.
Please don't try to use your ideas to represent the United States. The world hates us enough as it is.
lol true, thats why I always say im from Michigan and not the states, just hoping they let it pass =-)
lol true, thats why I always say im from Michigan and not the states, just hoping they let it pass =-)
Knute-
We don't live in the same city I am sure...so I am not going to argue about that.
The world hates us??
News to me.
This topic has been run into the ground.
Some people will go see a high school garage band play their high school cafeteria if the call themselves "Queen".
Some will even leave a "Queen" concert where someone other than Mercury is singing, and tell themselves "sweet shit! I just saw me some Queen".
Whatever, nothing I ever say will cure these delusional of their nerosis of the mind.
Queen without Freddie is equal to:
The Doors without Morrison.
Zeppelin without Plant.
The Stones without Jagger.
The Dave Mathews band without D.M. (laughs)
LOL!! I gotta go, Deacon is on the line... he rounded up Andrew Ridgely from "Wham" and Holly Johnson from "Frankie Goes To Hollywood".
I guess we are playing the Hazzard County Fair this Friday as "Queen". We go on after Bad Company... of course, Wayne Newton is filling in for Paul Rodgers in Bad Company, as he is now singing for Queen...not my band Queen that I have with Deacon... but the other Queen, you know, Paul Rodgers band.
I HATE BAND INCEST!!!
We don't live in the same city I am sure...so I am not going to argue about that.
The world hates us??
News to me.
This topic has been run into the ground.
Some people will go see a high school garage band play their high school cafeteria if the call themselves "Queen".
Some will even leave a "Queen" concert where someone other than Mercury is singing, and tell themselves "sweet shit! I just saw me some Queen".
Whatever, nothing I ever say will cure these delusional of their nerosis of the mind.
Queen without Freddie is equal to:
The Doors without Morrison.
Zeppelin without Plant.
The Stones without Jagger.
The Dave Mathews band without D.M. (laughs)
LOL!! I gotta go, Deacon is on the line... he rounded up Andrew Ridgely from "Wham" and Holly Johnson from "Frankie Goes To Hollywood".
I guess we are playing the Hazzard County Fair this Friday as "Queen". We go on after Bad Company... of course, Wayne Newton is filling in for Paul Rodgers in Bad Company, as he is now singing for Queen...not my band Queen that I have with Deacon... but the other Queen, you know, Paul Rodgers band.
I HATE BAND INCEST!!!
Damn Scott, how can you go and crush all the dreams of thousands of European fans who though they were seeing Queen.
They all missed the adverts that said
Queen + Paul Rodgers.
They didn't know that the frontman wasn't Freddie because none of them paid any attention in 1991 when Freddie passed.
How could you?
I bet your the kind of fellow who likes to tell little kids that Santa Claus doesn't really exist.
All those fans are going to now realize that they've been had. They are going to have to convice themselves that they really didn't really
enjoy the show because they were watching a bunch of frauds.
They all missed the adverts that said
Queen + Paul Rodgers.
They didn't know that the frontman wasn't Freddie because none of them paid any attention in 1991 when Freddie passed.
How could you?
I bet your the kind of fellow who likes to tell little kids that Santa Claus doesn't really exist.
All those fans are going to now realize that they've been had. They are going to have to convice themselves that they really didn't really
enjoy the show because they were watching a bunch of frauds.
Something in his personality around 1970-1973 was going to make him a star..... it didn't matter what band he was in....or the members
Yeah, cause his solo albums were like, so successful...
Sorry Scotty, no sale. Thank you and don't come again.
By the way....while I've been a pro guitarist at least 1/2 of my 26 years, you would think that Brian would be my favorite member.... however, it is Freddie.
Freddie has the "It" factor that legends are made of.
All 4 members of Queen are rock stars.... 1 is a legend, and its not Taylor or May.
OK Scott, you asked for this.....
I am 49, have been a guitarist for 39 years, 20 of them in a semi/pro status.
You are just so full of SHIT it's unbelievable. Having quite a few friends in the LA area, and gigged with some BIG names in the rock circle. You are talking BOLLOCKS.
You guys are right...its all Bollocks (please quit saying this overused British term).
What are we arguing over?
I think May and Taylor should quit whoring out the Queen name as the bands most dominant force (Freddie) is dead.
It's disrespectful, and should be put to rest.
Steve P (P for pussy)... you were that 49 yr old bad ass that trained Bruce Lee on the other thread, and you were going to whip everyone's ass.
Unemployment has you so bitter, it seems you argue with everyone on every topic.
Someone up about said something about Freddie solo??
I noticed that Brian's "Back to the Light" and "The Cross" have been setting some MAJOR sales records also hmmm????
At least Mercury had the balls to try new sounds.
Queen were better as a whole... we all know this.
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I hate to get back on topic, but lets try it.
Freddie crying from heaven??
Hardly!!
Freddie was the most vain person you'd ever meet.
He liked to look good...sound good, and dress good.
This hoaky """Queen""" tour just makes Mr. Farenheit look that much better... and reminds REAL fans of Queen (the real Queen).... how much they miss John & Fred.
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I'm not trying to "sale" anyone of anything.
You believe whatever you like.
I feel Freddie was THE most important member.
Without him, the band cannot/should not go on.
Don't waste your time timing up long winded saga's of other bands did it....Other bands weren't 60 years old, and the other bands weren't led by Freddie Mercury.
What are we arguing over?
I think May and Taylor should quit whoring out the Queen name as the bands most dominant force (Freddie) is dead.
It's disrespectful, and should be put to rest.
Steve P (P for pussy)... you were that 49 yr old bad ass that trained Bruce Lee on the other thread, and you were going to whip everyone's ass.
Unemployment has you so bitter, it seems you argue with everyone on every topic.
Someone up about said something about Freddie solo??
I noticed that Brian's "Back to the Light" and "The Cross" have been setting some MAJOR sales records also hmmm????
At least Mercury had the balls to try new sounds.
Queen were better as a whole... we all know this.
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I hate to get back on topic, but lets try it.
Freddie crying from heaven??
Hardly!!
Freddie was the most vain person you'd ever meet.
He liked to look good...sound good, and dress good.
This hoaky """Queen""" tour just makes Mr. Farenheit look that much better... and reminds REAL fans of Queen (the real Queen).... how much they miss John & Fred.
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I'm not trying to "sale" anyone of anything.
You believe whatever you like.
I feel Freddie was THE most important member.
Without him, the band cannot/should not go on.
Don't waste your time timing up long winded saga's of other bands did it....Other bands weren't 60 years old, and the other bands weren't led by Freddie Mercury.
And of course Freddie gets mentioned a lot, just like all late, great artists. Vincent Van Gogh was a nobody while he was alive.
Guys, you can say anything but please don't say Freddie gets mentioned just because he's dead, because that is really absurd!
And stop insulting one another!!
Fairy
And of course Freddie gets mentioned a lot, just like all late, great artists. Vincent Van Gogh was a nobody while he was alive.
Guys, you can say anything but please don't say Freddie gets mentioned just because he's dead, because that is really absurd!
And stop insulting one another!!
Fairy
That's not what I meant.
I meant that artists and celebrities are typically placed in a higher light after they pass on by the same people who tear them down while they're living.
We all know this. Lady Di is a prime example.
I think what you say is perfectly true for the first period after a celebrity's death. Everybody talks about them. But I don't think it is true after 14 years.
The world hates us??
News to me.
LMAO
Wake up. As stupid as it is, but... Americans don't have a good name outside their own country. Another proof of ignorance. Whatever is not said in America (or on TV)- is not true...
You guys are right...its all Bollocks (please quit saying this overused British term).
Not everyone on this board is american. So fuckin' get used to...
I think what you say is perfectly true for the first period after a celebrity's death. Everybody talks about them. But I don't think it is true after 14 years.
I think it is. Look at what's happening with nick Drake at the moment. Would he be that egendary hadn't he died? I doubt...
So many ppl said that this is the best publicity you can get... As terrible as it sounds, but... it is true! Scott_Mercury- just check profiles of fellow "zoners" and see how many got into them just after Freddie died. Shit loads of them. No-one is denying Fred's genius- hadn't he be that good, it would have passed in few years, just like another trend. it didn't. But many ppl heard about Mercury BECAUSE he died. And my point is/was- had it been Brian who died and had it been that covered- he would AS POPULAR right now. He's a legend anyway, for cry out loud...
Damn Scott, how can you go and crush all the dreams of thousands of European fans who though they were seeing Queen.
They all missed the adverts that said
Queen + Paul Rodgers.
They didn't know that the frontman wasn't Freddie because none of them paid any attention in 1991 when Freddie passed.
How could you?
I bet your the kind of fellow who likes to tell little kids that Santa Claus doesn't really exist.
All those fans are going to now realize that they've been had. They are going to have to convice themselves that they really didn't really
enjoy the show because they were watching a bunch of frauds.
Good one!
Sxcott- what the fuck are you arguing with...? I saw them in Brixton and I'm not saying "I saw Queen". I will always envy those who were in hammersmith in 79 or anywhere else they played... But for fucks sake- I can a have "A BIT" of that feeling too, seeing two of them together on stage, with a great vocalist as well! I'm not even pretending it's real Queen! If anyone here is dellusional it's you- you're arguing something that's obvious. Seeing this tour is impossible to compare to ANATO Tour or Gluttons For punishment. And NO-ONE is trying to do that! What's your freaking problem than!!?? The fact we actually ENJOY the shows...? Well- f**k you, I loved every second of Brixton experience and I couldn't care less what were they called and what name they used. It rocked, no legacy was hurt or anything. They made more bad with collaborations with talentless Williams or 5ive. Finally they're doing sth that ROCKS! And that's all that matters to me.
And one more thing- you haven't seen any of the shows. And you're so fuckin' opinionated... We'll talk after you see the gig. Oh wait- you're NOT going to enjoy it, no matter what, right? That's what I call open-minded...
I'm 26, and was probably a Queen fan when you were trying to grow pube's and still questioning your own sexuality.
Were you questioning your own sexuality...? I wasn't...
And we're pretty much the same age, so you couldn't get into Queen that much earlier than I did... Anyway- you can listen to Queen and be a fan for 20 years and still talk b... bullshit (better? (rolls eyes)
Freddie is the shining star of the band we know as Queen....
That just shows the time wrap you stuck in.
WAS my dear, he WAS the shinning star...
In the USA, No One on the street would have the slightest clue who Brian May, Roger Taylor, or John Deacon are.
And do I care about America that much? The entire Europe pretty well knows who May is. And they were / are huge in Japan. C'mon- America's not thecentre of the world. Unless you're one of those who think so. The ones taht give the fellow Americans a bad name...
Or...when a Queen song goes off, 9 times out of 10 the DJ will say, "that was the late great Freddie Mercury with Bohemian Rhapsody".
Late- so what makes it interesting is not what musical genius he was and what a great tune he wrote- more interesting is the fact that he's dead. Prooves my point actually...
May/Taylor/ and the hoarse Englishman aren't sure if they are touring the USA, because over here, Americans will say "Where the hell is the buck tooth gay guy with the kick ass voice".
Which will only show their ignorancen nothing else...
Translation = Freddie had most of the power.
Funny- every single book or interview says sth opposite...
Queen is my favorite band.
But unlike some, I'm not delusional.
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