you mean it was not the REAL queen I saw at Brixton - bloody hell must try and get my money back.
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Someone up about said something about Freddie solo??
I noticed that Brian's "Back to the Light" and "The Cross" have been setting some MAJOR sales records also hmmm????
At least Mercury had the balls to try new sounds.
Queen were better as a whole... we all know this.
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Stay on subject - Freddie's solo LP was very mediocre, and without his great voice it'd be true shit.
More to it - Freddie's solo LP and the new sound? Are you kidding? It was pure disco, like a lot other records in half 80th. Absolutely nothing new or special on it. I always consider it as very weak (and my opinion doesn't change till today). Brian, Roger and John did from MIH and IWBTLY much better songs as they were before.
It is very questionable, if Freddie should be as successful without Queen, isn't it? Maybe he'd be glad, he could use Queen name in these days.
Well, and this is the same speculations as your ones. It leads nowhere after all. But I couldn't resist anyway. Sorry.
Hi Fenderek!
I agree that as sad as it sounds, an artist's death is good publicity. And I know tons of people became aware of Queen after Freddie died. But I just think that after so many years, those who only listened to Queen because it was so popular to do so around 1991 would be tired of Queen and Freddie right now.
Take Kurt Cobain: do you think he's much more popular now that he's dead?
I believe that in Freddie's case, it's the way he faced his illness and death that may still be influencing his popularity. I think there's nothing wrong in that actually, because his courage and dignity can be an example for all of us.
Fairy
I agree that as sad as it sounds, an artist's death is good publicity. And I know tons of people became aware of Queen after Freddie died. But I just think that after so many years, those who only listened to Queen because it was so popular to do so around 1991 would be tired of Queen and Freddie right now.
Take Kurt Cobain: do you think he's much more popular now that he's dead?
I believe that in Freddie's case, it's the way he faced his illness and death that may still be influencing his popularity. I think there's nothing wrong in that actually, because his courage and dignity can be an example for all of us.
Fairy
Hi Fenderek!
I agree that as sad as it sounds, an artist's death is good publicity. And I know tons of people became aware of Queen after Freddie died. But I just think that after so many years, those who only listened to Queen because it was so popular to do so around 1991 would be tired of Queen and Freddie right now.
HI Fairy
I agree with you entirely. The only point I ws trying to make was the fact that when Fredie died that made him a name known to EVERYBODY. Ppl may not be fans- they know who Mercury was (aaaa- that gay guy from Queen who died on AIDS). My point was- had it been Brian who died in tragic circumstances, he could have been as popular now in the same sense.
We've basically been saying the same thing! Only, I'm not so sure that if Brian had died his death would have made him as popular as Freddie. I strongly doubt it.....But we will never find out (fortunately for Brian!!)
Fairy
Fairy
Another thing Scott
Why are you always hatin' on Paul?
You know it's possible to love Freddie and still have respect for or even love Paul's voice.
By the time he was your age he had already sold millions of records and influenced countless musicains, including our beloved Freddie.
To say he is horse and out of tune is a flat out mis-truth. Paul's vocal technique is superlative.
Most singers lose their range and power as they get older. Not Paul, that dude's more together than he's ever been. That alone merits a modicum of respect.
Why are you always hatin' on Paul?
You know it's possible to love Freddie and still have respect for or even love Paul's voice.
By the time he was your age he had already sold millions of records and influenced countless musicains, including our beloved Freddie.
To say he is horse and out of tune is a flat out mis-truth. Paul's vocal technique is superlative.
Most singers lose their range and power as they get older. Not Paul, that dude's more together than he's ever been. That alone merits a modicum of respect.
Knute-
I've seen Paul twice...lost his voice both times.
He's good... Freddie was great.
This whole "he influenced Freddie" bullshit is about as believeable as Taylor Ga Ga "being in the room" with Freddie as he taped his final interview on Nov. 23rd 1991.
Brian, and Roger have both said something to the degree of "we are sure that Freddie respected Paul Rodgers".
Which is just dumb.
All musicians have respect for other musicians..thats a given.
I will see Taylor, and May , P.R. (uhhh..for the 3rd time) , Timmy Johnson, Mikey Struthmore, Nikki Nostrill....anyone else gonna be on stage??
The more I think about it.
I'm not pissed that they are touring.
Just as long as everyone is on the same page that this is a 6th rate, watered down, somewhat lame version of what was once a legendary band.... then I have no problem anymore.
Freddie simply cannot be replaced...gotta give Paul credit for setting himself for negative comparisons.
There are pro's & con's to what Deacon has decided...there are pro's & con's to what May/Taylor are doing.
Deacon:
Pro's- Went out on top.... will be remembered for when he was on the top of his game.... most repected BY FAR by the Freddie purist.
Con's- Has been labeled a cop-out by some for not supporting his band and joining them.
(I know the saga goes that John wrote a very nice letter....whatever....there are no nice letters in the world of million dollar business...and Queen is a large business)
May/Taylor:
Pro's- One last tour for the fans, respected by many for "still doing what they love" at "their age".
Con's- Have been labeled as money motivated, will be remembered when they were 56 and 58 yrs old....which equals overweight and out of shape.
Freddie purist will remain pissed as they feel they are betraying Queen's leader.
Now here we go again... before you put the shit in your hand to throw... I know... "Queen are 4 equal members".
However- Freddie wrote the most songs, wrote the most hits, is by far the most famous alive or dead....and is easily the most idenifiable member of the band.....in most circles that equals the band leader.
Draw your own conclusions.
I've seen Paul twice...lost his voice both times.
He's good... Freddie was great.
This whole "he influenced Freddie" bullshit is about as believeable as Taylor Ga Ga "being in the room" with Freddie as he taped his final interview on Nov. 23rd 1991.
Brian, and Roger have both said something to the degree of "we are sure that Freddie respected Paul Rodgers".
Which is just dumb.
All musicians have respect for other musicians..thats a given.
I will see Taylor, and May , P.R. (uhhh..for the 3rd time) , Timmy Johnson, Mikey Struthmore, Nikki Nostrill....anyone else gonna be on stage??
The more I think about it.
I'm not pissed that they are touring.
Just as long as everyone is on the same page that this is a 6th rate, watered down, somewhat lame version of what was once a legendary band.... then I have no problem anymore.
Freddie simply cannot be replaced...gotta give Paul credit for setting himself for negative comparisons.
There are pro's & con's to what Deacon has decided...there are pro's & con's to what May/Taylor are doing.
Deacon:
Pro's- Went out on top.... will be remembered for when he was on the top of his game.... most repected BY FAR by the Freddie purist.
Con's- Has been labeled a cop-out by some for not supporting his band and joining them.
(I know the saga goes that John wrote a very nice letter....whatever....there are no nice letters in the world of million dollar business...and Queen is a large business)
May/Taylor:
Pro's- One last tour for the fans, respected by many for "still doing what they love" at "their age".
Con's- Have been labeled as money motivated, will be remembered when they were 56 and 58 yrs old....which equals overweight and out of shape.
Freddie purist will remain pissed as they feel they are betraying Queen's leader.
Now here we go again... before you put the shit in your hand to throw... I know... "Queen are 4 equal members".
However- Freddie wrote the most songs, wrote the most hits, is by far the most famous alive or dead....and is easily the most idenifiable member of the band.....in most circles that equals the band leader.
Draw your own conclusions.
The influence thing is not bullshit.
Brian May said quote "Paul Rodgers was one of the few singers that Freddie looked up to". Far different than "Uhhh, I think he liked him."
Roger talked about how when him and Freddie were roommates, Fire and Water was a favorite in that house.
Have you read any recent interviews of Bri and Rog or are you too busy being bitter about all this?
Go to the audio/video section of www.queenpluspaulrodgers.com/ and listen to the segment titled "Is PR the new Freddie?"
Another question I have is why are you posts so full of ageism. You always talking about how old someone is like it's a disease.
26 aint far from 35 from 45 from 55 my friend.
It will be upon you before you know it.
I'm 35 and 26 was a blink of the eye ago.
Brian May said quote "Paul Rodgers was one of the few singers that Freddie looked up to". Far different than "Uhhh, I think he liked him."
Roger talked about how when him and Freddie were roommates, Fire and Water was a favorite in that house.
Have you read any recent interviews of Bri and Rog or are you too busy being bitter about all this?
Go to the audio/video section of www.queenpluspaulrodgers.com/ and listen to the segment titled "Is PR the new Freddie?"
Another question I have is why are you posts so full of ageism. You always talking about how old someone is like it's a disease.
26 aint far from 35 from 45 from 55 my friend.
It will be upon you before you know it.
I'm 35 and 26 was a blink of the eye ago.
Actually I had never heard about this big influence PR had on Freddie until now. And friends who know about Queen history much more than I do never heard about this either. I have the feeling Brian and Roger are just stressing this in order not to feel guilty about this tour...But this is just my opinion.
Fairy
Fairy
Actually I had never heard about this big influence PR had on Freddie until now. And friends who know about Queen history much more than I do never heard about this either. I have the feeling Brian and Roger are just stressing this in order not to feel guilty about this tour...But this is just my opinion.
Fairy
Or maybe they emphasize it hoping to facilitate acceptance from the fan base and the press.
Or maybe they emphasize it hoping to facilitate acceptance from the fan base and the press.
Yeah maybe both.
Knute-
Fairy has a point that many are saying.
It was quite clear that Freddie loved Kimi Hendrix, Aretha Franklin, Liza Minelli, and Monserat.
But I think this Paul Rodgers thing is a stretch.
Its not really his style.
All of Freddie's other favorites were not only virtuoso's of their instrument or vocal powerhouses....but they were are also over the top, flameboyant performers.
Paul Rodgers has a nice rock/bluesy voice.
But if you watch clips of Paul in his prime, Paul usually just stood still with a mic.
Sometime in the 1980's, out of lack of anything else to do on stage, Paul started ripping off Roger Daltry and doing mic twirls every 30 seconds.
He was still doing this in 1997 when I seen them.... as his voice got more hoarse, the more the mic got twirled.
As far as being old = sucking.
Wrong.
I'll take Innuendo over Queen 2 any day of the week....Fred was what, 44/45 when Innuendo was recorded and.... I believe 28 yrs old when Queen 2 was made.
In fact, I prefer expierence of "fresh".
I know I will be 56 in a flash.
I'm just realistic about it... will I be the muscular sexy beast I am now when I am 56. (please laugh at this dumb comment...no whining pleeease)
Nope, I'll be the older, more out a shape version....ie: Roger. However, I wouldn't touch a beer or cigarette with a gun to my head...so that may give me an advantage.
By the way: As stated, the odds of Fred saying, "Damn, that Paul Rodgers, he's amazing" is probably 1 to 1,000,000... I still don't know why Brian and Roger would lie.
I mean, its not like Queen is reforming, and putting out 7 studio albums.
AC/DC tried their best to get Brian Johnson accepted in 1980, because the Young brothers had alot of time and music left...Brian has been AC/DC's singer from 1980-present, 25 years later, its kind of dumb to call him "the new singer".
As he's been there almost 5 times as long as Bon Scott was.
This won't be the case with Paul and Queen.
Queen's best days, and biggest hits are over.
We don't have Freddie, as long as people are clear this isn't the real thing, and this isn't the Queen of the past.... then I can accept this is the best we have right now.
Fairy has a point that many are saying.
It was quite clear that Freddie loved Kimi Hendrix, Aretha Franklin, Liza Minelli, and Monserat.
But I think this Paul Rodgers thing is a stretch.
Its not really his style.
All of Freddie's other favorites were not only virtuoso's of their instrument or vocal powerhouses....but they were are also over the top, flameboyant performers.
Paul Rodgers has a nice rock/bluesy voice.
But if you watch clips of Paul in his prime, Paul usually just stood still with a mic.
Sometime in the 1980's, out of lack of anything else to do on stage, Paul started ripping off Roger Daltry and doing mic twirls every 30 seconds.
He was still doing this in 1997 when I seen them.... as his voice got more hoarse, the more the mic got twirled.
As far as being old = sucking.
Wrong.
I'll take Innuendo over Queen 2 any day of the week....Fred was what, 44/45 when Innuendo was recorded and.... I believe 28 yrs old when Queen 2 was made.
In fact, I prefer expierence of "fresh".
I know I will be 56 in a flash.
I'm just realistic about it... will I be the muscular sexy beast I am now when I am 56. (please laugh at this dumb comment...no whining pleeease)
Nope, I'll be the older, more out a shape version....ie: Roger. However, I wouldn't touch a beer or cigarette with a gun to my head...so that may give me an advantage.
By the way: As stated, the odds of Fred saying, "Damn, that Paul Rodgers, he's amazing" is probably 1 to 1,000,000... I still don't know why Brian and Roger would lie.
I mean, its not like Queen is reforming, and putting out 7 studio albums.
AC/DC tried their best to get Brian Johnson accepted in 1980, because the Young brothers had alot of time and music left...Brian has been AC/DC's singer from 1980-present, 25 years later, its kind of dumb to call him "the new singer".
As he's been there almost 5 times as long as Bon Scott was.
This won't be the case with Paul and Queen.
Queen's best days, and biggest hits are over.
We don't have Freddie, as long as people are clear this isn't the real thing, and this isn't the Queen of the past.... then I can accept this is the best we have right now.
We don't have Freddie, as long as people are clear this isn't the real thing, and this isn't the Queen of the past.... then I can accept this is the best we have right now.
Gosh- and this is exactly what everyone was saying all along... Me included...
Once again you are spreading mis-truths concerning PR
Here is a video clip of Paul in his prime with the band Free. He is 20 years old here.
(click on clip 5)
www.allrightnow.com/videoshowcase.htm
Watch this than tell me he's just standing still there with a mic, with no charisma(which is what your implying.) Sure he never was one to jump around the stage. Doesn't mean he didn't have stage presence.
And I've never seen him rip off Daltry, that's a bunch of bullshit.
Oh, and the queen of soul(Aretha) is Freddie's style yet one of the two most soulful white singers(the other being Steve Marriott) England ever produced isn't? You can tell listening to Freddie sing that he loved soul music. Freddie wasn't just about how someone looked. I bet the music was more important as to what moved him.
This conversations just going round in circles and it quite clear that you have an agenda against PR and will continue making shit up to suit your posts. Like Brian and Roger LYING about Freddie liking the god-awful PR.
LOL! What a crock of shit!
Here is a video clip of Paul in his prime with the band Free. He is 20 years old here.
(click on clip 5)
www.allrightnow.com/videoshowcase.htm
Watch this than tell me he's just standing still there with a mic, with no charisma(which is what your implying.) Sure he never was one to jump around the stage. Doesn't mean he didn't have stage presence.
And I've never seen him rip off Daltry, that's a bunch of bullshit.
Oh, and the queen of soul(Aretha) is Freddie's style yet one of the two most soulful white singers(the other being Steve Marriott) England ever produced isn't? You can tell listening to Freddie sing that he loved soul music. Freddie wasn't just about how someone looked. I bet the music was more important as to what moved him.
This conversations just going round in circles and it quite clear that you have an agenda against PR and will continue making shit up to suit your posts. Like Brian and Roger LYING about Freddie liking the god-awful PR.
LOL! What a crock of shit!
I think many people have different views on this whole "Queen" tour and rightfully so. If I were to be totally honest, I'm not exactly peeing my pants with excitement, though niether am I deeply offended like some people seem to be on here.
Although perhaps not awsome, I'm sure the show will be good and very enjoyable for those who do go. However I feel it will always be difficult for Brian and Roger to break-away from being associated with Freddie and Queen as it was many years ago.
As regards to Mr Deacon - £50 million - Enough said
Although perhaps not awsome, I'm sure the show will be good and very enjoyable for those who do go. However I feel it will always be difficult for Brian and Roger to break-away from being associated with Freddie and Queen as it was many years ago.
As regards to Mr Deacon - £50 million - Enough said