Notice to those looking for a copy of Teo Torriatte HD Mix 2005

Adam: Can I point out there is no "disgusting" "hate campaign against" anyone.

Although "There have been... plenty of downloads which have come through Queenzone...", NONE have been store-purchaseable products or MASS distributions, and while the hub remains essentially nameless, (a.k.a. Bum's Torn-Pooper) has tagged every copy he has distributed.

Personally, I don't think the RIAA are interested in minor infringements, and I am sure that the odd swap from ONE source to another is NOT worth their attention.

However, the cavalier MASS scale replication we have witnessed in here of late, WILL be ringing alarm-bells SOMEWHERE, and when old Dark-boy ends up on Canada's most wanted, it will be fun to watch all his newly acquired friends disapear as quickly as snow off a dyke.

Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:


That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I'm not responsible for shit on Queen HUB, as it is not my own to begin with. I'm merely a member of the HUB, so I cannot be blamed for it. (YV, on the other hand, COULD get in trouble should the proper authorities/lawyers take action, since SHE owns and runs it, after all)

YV does not own or run the hub.

And besides, I've only offered ONE MP3 compared to numerous others that people have offered over the past few years (did anyone complain when all the re-makes of WWRY and WATC got put up online, even though they were ON SHELF?? NO!!)

It has to do with your attitude in all of this. You are illegally distributing one song that can be purchased legally, which other QZers have also done in the past (Annie Crummer, John Farnham, Five, Robbie Williams, all come immediately to mind). Is it fair that they were largely ignored while you are not? Perhaps. But did they start six different threads announcing what they were doing, reply at least five times that to said threads, call those who disagree with them "fucktards" and "stepfords," and blame others for all of this?

Personally, I think this is overblown. It's one track on a CD that is only available in one country; it's probably not enough to get QP to prosecute anyone. But don't kid yourself, Dark. You are still offering something illegally and are advertising it on a very public noticeboard. And I suspect this has more to do with ego than altruism.

First of all, I don't own and run the hub, get your facts straight, Dark.

Secondly, since when am I a Stepford because I did not ask you for an mp3? If you don't mind, I collect the way I find it right and that is sure not asking you of all people for anything. And that is not a hate campaign, it's just my own private decision. I did not say anything about your spreading the song except that Queenzone is not responsible for it.

John S Stuart wrote:

Although you correctly say "There have been and currently still are plenty of downloads that have come through Queenzone...", NONE of those have either been CURRENT Officially available store-purchaseable products or MASS fraudulent distributions by one individual.

In name of fairness, current official items have been shared on QZ in the past. Similar to Dark here, one user often posted a link to download these items. I can remember two users specifically who distributed Crummer's AOBTD remix and Farnham's WWRY. Who knows how many actually downloaded them at that time.

However, the cavalier MASS scale replication we have witnessed in here of late, WILL be ringing alarms some-place, and when old Dark-boy ends up on Canada's most wanted, it will be fun to watch all his newly acquired friends disapear as quickly as snow off a dyke.

I agree that that is the problem. The amount of users who popped out of the woodwork for this download was staggering to me, and I'm afraid it might attract unwanton attention from higher-ups.

Not to mention it made me hate leechers even more.

Zeni: What duck!!!?

I agree with your point, and perhaps I have painted my picture a little too bleakly.

However, theft is mainly about percentages. Steal one can of Coke from a store, and your chances of being caught are slim. Steal 24 cans every hour, over the next six weeks, and your chances of getting away with it, become even slimmer. The difference here is not the crime, but the frequency and magnitude.

If Dark was a little subtler, his chances of getting away with it - may similarly fit into the categories you mentioned, but his arrogant over-confidence MAY yet be his own undoing.

He has also left behind a trail of electronic crumbs, so if caught, the whole "leeching family" are going to topple along with him!

You gotta show some cash before you get a look at the duck.

I'll have to apologize to you, YV; that Stepford comment was meant to be directed towards Stuardess (John) and Anal_Penetration_Guru

(a.k.a. Bum's Torn-pooper): There is no campaign of hate against you. I really do not care if you distribute this or not. If you wish to ignore those who offer sound advice in favour of those parasites who would sell you down the river - then that is your choice.

You are old enough to make your own decisions - but are you responsible enough to accept the consequences?

Zeni: 28p + 2 sticks of Wriggley's gum + a brand-new, unused 1st class stamp + 4 assorted elastic bands = the duck?

Linda's right. After all, this IS the only song I will upload in full from an official release.

Later today, I will upload a teaser for Jewels II, with SAMPLES from select tracks, if it's OK with you, John

My ducks are all high quality, John. Throw in another stick of gum and you have a deal.

I hear what John is saying - although is this surely the same thing as people downloading Hollywood Records remixes?

I have decided to delete my copy and wait for Jewels 2 to turn up, by the way.

(a.k.a. Bum's Torn-pooper): "this IS the only song I will upload in full from an official release".

That makes no difference, nor is it an excuse. Once is still enough to convict you. Why do you still feel so compelled to share these other samples?

(a.k.a. Bum's Torn-pooper): Later today, I will upload a teaser for Jewels II, with SAMPLES from select tracks, if it's OK with you, John

Whatever you do - it is none of my business, but please do not read my indifference as either Stepfordism or spite. Just remember whatever decission you make, be prepared to face the consequences.

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/news/local/6776689.htm

The music industry... a generations-old industry being robbed blind by thieves depriving hard-working artists of their livelihoods ...the R.I.A.A. ...sued Brianna LaHara, a 12-year-old girl who lives with her single mother and younger brother in public housing in New York City.

Brianna and her mother, Sylvia Torres, were targeted in one of 261 lawsuits... RIAA chairman... said the lawsuit against Brianna illustrates the importance of parents being aware of what their children are doing on their computers.

We're trying to send a strong message that you are not ANONYMOUS when you participate in peer-to-peer file sharing and that the illegal distribution of copyrighted music has consequences...

http://www.techspot.com/story16808.html

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/industry_news/first_file-sharing_convictions.html

http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/59315

And let's not forget the ENTIRE Karaoke cd being posted on here. Not much was said about it and that was a Japanese release. And it was seeded over and over and even specific tracks were reseeded week to week. That's why I find it strange that all was quiet on that one while this single track has been so full-on with Inu.

Peace,
Adam.

Adam Baboolal wrote:

And let's not forget the ENTIRE Karaoke cd being posted on here. Not much was said about it and that was a Japanese release. And it was seeded over and over and even specific tracks were reseeded week to week. That's why I find it strange that all was quiet on that one while this single track has been so full-on with Inu.

Peace,
Adam.

EXACTLY!! And I was just going to post about right away!

Deacon Fan CLEARLY put out those Karaoke tracks when they came out, and they are STILL available from Japan on CD! You (John) WERE on Queenzone at that time, yet YOU didn't say anything about these tracks being put online, even though they were in PLAIN SIGHT.

Fuck you, John Stewardess. Deny all you want, but you have a vendetta against me, and you used this opportunity to wage an anti-Dark/Inu war against me. I think most of the people here WILL agree with me. And what's worse, is that P_G just HAD to take the opportunity to take part in your HEROIC war!

And let's NOT forget those who uploaded the following tracks on Queenzone from time to time, most of which ARE still available on the shelf - those who did not have to suffer the same kind of hate war I'm suffering right now:

Queen + 5ive - We Will Rock You 2000 (currently available on 5ive's Greatest Hits album...which is a good CD, btw.!)
Queen + Robbie Williams - We Are The Champions (currently available on A Knight's Tale - Original Soundtrack)
Queen + Vanguard - Flash (Original 2002 remix - released as the Extended Mix on the CD-Single of the same name; discontinued; this was shared publicly on QZ even before the CD-Single came out!)
Queen + John Farnham - We Will Rock You 2003 (currently available on JF's "The Voice - Greatest Hits" album; exclusive to Australia; this one I remember was uploaded by either Mr. Scully at the time, which he recorded OFF THE RADIO; and don't anyone bullshit me that he didn't do this, he DID!)

And let's not forget the 46664 performances, for which Brian lashed out at certain "leechers" for distributing online. No-one here got blamed for it, so I'll leave it be for that count.

And then, there were people other than myself who let the convention 2000 tracks leak out freely online (which I had no part in, obviously)

Need I list more?