No doubt about the fact that Queen have been managing their back catalogue in a very profitable way. There's also no doubt about it that I will cough up the cash once more. I have the complete catalogue (as do many others) on vinyl lp, cd, remastered cd, Queen Cabinet (the framed golden cd's), US remasters, Japanese mini-vinyl and now it seems to be released all over again.
But to have it make more sense, as JSS said, buy the cd's with the extras and get the original album as a bonus...
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If there are two or three rare songs per cd, then I'll be disappointed. Hoewver, if there are 30-40 minutes of rarities on each disc, or perhaps a second disc, then I'll be thrilled beyond belief. 30 minutes of rarities for each album is 7 1/2 hours in all. I could definitely live with that. :)
Are live albums in this equation, or just the 15 studio albums? Some soundboard Live Killers outtakes would be great to have!
Are live albums in this equation, or just the 15 studio albums? Some soundboard Live Killers outtakes would be great to have!
A two DVD set (Milton Heynes for example) only costs about 1/3 more to buy than just one CD (typically $20 versus $15 in the US). Paying $20 (I hope) per album anthology does not seem too bad. It costs much less than an import.(especially a Japanese import).
Seems I might start waking up this year.
something tells me, if this were to happen... instead of Demos and outtakes, they may end up filling up most of the second disc with unreleased live material...
that's what usually happens to special double disc editions...
i'd rather a complete live show than a handful of tracks which can be found at slightly lower quality on a bootleg i can download from the hub...
that's what usually happens to special double disc editions...
i'd rather a complete live show than a handful of tracks which can be found at slightly lower quality on a bootleg i can download from the hub...
Is there really any need for point scoring? Although, "Kes" actually hinted at it well before you commented on it anywhere.
For some bizarre reason, I think QP have better quality recordings than whats available on the hub (!!!)... you know with them having the master tapes and not using shitty audio files sourced from cassettes!??! Plus, it would be stupid to put a live gig on as a bonus instead of demos, outtakes etc.
For some bizarre reason, I think QP have better quality recordings than whats available on the hub (!!!)... you know with them having the master tapes and not using shitty audio files sourced from cassettes!??! Plus, it would be stupid to put a live gig on as a bonus instead of demos, outtakes etc.
Negative Creep: I thought my posts were rather positive. You say that Kes hinted at this before, but can you post a link to show this?
I agree about the point scoring - it was meant to be a JOKE. It is Red Nose day here (in the UK) afterall! Nevertheless, This is one of the BIG advatages of this station (as opposed to Queen Online) as an independant - it feels like (for better or worse) I can truely speak my mind over here, without cow-towing to the vast Queen machine. (However, it is still a bit of a coup for this sort of news to break over here - whilst they are OFFICIALLY denying "rumours" over there)
Jimmy Dean: PLEASE, please, please refer to my "Fleetwood Mac" examples in both this and my original threads. I never mentioned any live recordings whatsoever - this is a new spin, but it is not of my doing!
As far as I am aware - NO - (That means absolutely NONE at all) LIVE material will appear on these special discs.
I also certainly hope that the masters owned by QP are leagues ahead of anything which would ever be found in any hub - otherwise there would be no need to buy these new discs!
I agree about the point scoring - it was meant to be a JOKE. It is Red Nose day here (in the UK) afterall! Nevertheless, This is one of the BIG advatages of this station (as opposed to Queen Online) as an independant - it feels like (for better or worse) I can truely speak my mind over here, without cow-towing to the vast Queen machine. (However, it is still a bit of a coup for this sort of news to break over here - whilst they are OFFICIALLY denying "rumours" over there)
Jimmy Dean: PLEASE, please, please refer to my "Fleetwood Mac" examples in both this and my original threads. I never mentioned any live recordings whatsoever - this is a new spin, but it is not of my doing!
As far as I am aware - NO - (That means absolutely NONE at all) LIVE material will appear on these special discs.
I also certainly hope that the masters owned by QP are leagues ahead of anything which would ever be found in any hub - otherwise there would be no need to buy these new discs!
Aye - I've actually only seen a few rare instances of reissues having live material on the bonus disc, unless, of course, there's not enough material to pad out that bonus disc, so they figure a concert would be a good idea anyway.
Elvis Costello does this brilliantly, and rarely includes any live material unless it was officially released as a B-Side or on an EP. Queen could really learn a lot from him, except that they should fill up the first disc with extra material - Elvis limits the releases to the original album on one disc, leaving at least thirty minutes of free space, along with a full second disc.
Elvis Costello does this brilliantly, and rarely includes any live material unless it was officially released as a B-Side or on an EP. Queen could really learn a lot from him, except that they should fill up the first disc with extra material - Elvis limits the releases to the original album on one disc, leaving at least thirty minutes of free space, along with a full second disc.
No problem John... the joke just didn't come across in print much! I'll try and gid the links out for you in a sec.
Wonder what will happen with the proposed live boxset? I assume thats shelved aswell? I would have hoped not.... and to have the BBC tracks spread across numerous CDs wouldn't exactly be ideal.
Wonder what will happen with the proposed live boxset? I assume thats shelved aswell? I would have hoped not.... and to have the BBC tracks spread across numerous CDs wouldn't exactly be ideal.
Negative Creep: "Wonder what will happen with the proposed live boxset? I assume thats shelved aswell?"
To be honest - I do NOT know. So I can not answer with any authority - sorry.
At a guess (and I stress this is just MY guess) - if the "special edition discs" are a run-away success (and I hope that we all agree that we would like them to be so) then maybe, just maybe, a special live set (or better still a series) would follow.
I am actually VERY excited by this news - and that's why I wanted to share - to spread that positive vibe throughout my "home" zone. I hope that this did not come across as "attention-seeking" or that QP should feel slightly miffed.
So to avoid any real substantial answer to your question, I am looking forward to these "Special Editions" first, and I will worry about live sets and DVDs later.
But come on, it's a Friday night, so let's get drunk and celebrate - as it is the most positive news I've heard this side of Christmas!!!
To be honest - I do NOT know. So I can not answer with any authority - sorry.
At a guess (and I stress this is just MY guess) - if the "special edition discs" are a run-away success (and I hope that we all agree that we would like them to be so) then maybe, just maybe, a special live set (or better still a series) would follow.
I am actually VERY excited by this news - and that's why I wanted to share - to spread that positive vibe throughout my "home" zone. I hope that this did not come across as "attention-seeking" or that QP should feel slightly miffed.
So to avoid any real substantial answer to your question, I am looking forward to these "Special Editions" first, and I will worry about live sets and DVDs later.
But come on, it's a Friday night, so let's get drunk and celebrate - as it is the most positive news I've heard this side of Christmas!!!
11 March 2005 - 00:50 (UK)
Marketing wise - a disc by disc "rolling" collection makes much more financial sense. Cheaper and easier to mass-produce and huge volume sales by comparison.
I totally agree that only die hard fans would buy an expensive boxset. If it's true that the price for the two CDs will be only a little more than for a single CD, than, from my point of view, this is a good deal.
But from QP point of view, I'm not sure if this is such a good idea. There are two types of customers:
1. Group 1 – they do not (yet) own Queen albums. So if someone wants to buy ANATO and chooses the 2 disc set, than QP sells two CDs for the price of one CD. Not a good deal for QP.
2. Group 2 – they already have the albums. Only die hard fans will buy an album again because normal fans, they do not need remasters and they are not at all interested in demos or backing tracks or whatever. And if they are interested, then maybe only in certain albums like ANATO… So, do you think that there are so many older fans willing to buy these new sets? I agree, more people will buy a ANATO 2 CD set than a huge box set. But if you keep in mind that you are selling on the other side 2 discs for the price of one to group 1…I’ don’t know…
Negative Creep: Responding to a thread entitled "What next three DVD-As should be released?", what Kes actually wrote was...
http://forums.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=18686&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
"Queen II is going to be the jewel in the crown, I have no doubt about that.
To be fair, I have a pretty good idea already what's coming, and all I'd say to most of you is brace yourselves, and start saving, because dreams do come true.... eventually."
That's kind of a million miles away from what I wrote at the start of this thread... isn't it?
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=487764
"The "boxsets" have been cancelled - because they are in NO one's interests... a dedicated remastered "Night At The Opera" set, would contain more "...Opera" demos/out-takes etc, than an anthology disc ever could... Over an 18 - 24 month period... the complete back catalogue will (be) re-released."
http://forums.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=18686&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
"Queen II is going to be the jewel in the crown, I have no doubt about that.
To be fair, I have a pretty good idea already what's coming, and all I'd say to most of you is brace yourselves, and start saving, because dreams do come true.... eventually."
That's kind of a million miles away from what I wrote at the start of this thread... isn't it?
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=487764
"The "boxsets" have been cancelled - because they are in NO one's interests... a dedicated remastered "Night At The Opera" set, would contain more "...Opera" demos/out-takes etc, than an anthology disc ever could... Over an 18 - 24 month period... the complete back catalogue will (be) re-released."
I'm sure we want these new sets of discs to really work, if it's true. Which is very real as lots of other artists have been coming out with these kinds of discs over the last few years. Good stuff. It guarantees sales as both people interested in the rarities will take a peek and those looking to hear Queen for the first time will also buy them and feel, "wow, what a deal!"
But, I'm more worried about the way they're presented. I think it's painfully obvious from the posts on this forum that the last set of remasters lost the balance we'd come to expect from the Queen camp. Errors be damned, it's the sound that people know well and it needs to remain as it once was, i.e. before the last set.
My wish is that they should seek someone OUTSIDE the Queen "friends" for remastering. Trust me, it'll work out a lot better than asking someone in-house.
And if they do it well, I'd be very happy to buy the catalogue all over again. I've got a mix of UK and US 94 remasters and they've been great. NO horrible glitches at all. But if they really knock out the ultimate cd remasters that look and sound the biz, I'm sure we'd all be happy to get these.
On a down-note, if they're just gonna use the 2001 remasters then, they've lost me. Sorry.
Peace,
Adam.
But, I'm more worried about the way they're presented. I think it's painfully obvious from the posts on this forum that the last set of remasters lost the balance we'd come to expect from the Queen camp. Errors be damned, it's the sound that people know well and it needs to remain as it once was, i.e. before the last set.
My wish is that they should seek someone OUTSIDE the Queen "friends" for remastering. Trust me, it'll work out a lot better than asking someone in-house.
And if they do it well, I'd be very happy to buy the catalogue all over again. I've got a mix of UK and US 94 remasters and they've been great. NO horrible glitches at all. But if they really knock out the ultimate cd remasters that look and sound the biz, I'm sure we'd all be happy to get these.
On a down-note, if they're just gonna use the 2001 remasters then, they've lost me. Sorry.
Peace,
Adam.
But come on, it's a Friday night, so let's get drunk and celebrate - as it is the most positive news I've heard this side of Christmas!!!
Best advice I've heard all day!