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Funny how all of this is being taken as the truth. My understanding is that this will be done but that the box sets will as well. I don't understand why or who this John Stuart guy is but there are other artists out there who put out huge box sets so where is the fan support for them as well if you all are the fans you all claim to be. I am ready for all of these releases as a matter of fact. I think they should not be done all at once in terms of the box sets but a re-release of the back catelog of l.p.s should be instead of mixing them all up out of order. That's not smart either.
AlexRocks wrote:
Funny how all of this is being taken as the truth. My understanding is that this will be done but that the box sets will as well. I don't understand why or who this John Stuart guy is ...


John Stuart has credibility on this board and among the regular longtime posters. At least as much cred as Greg Brooks has, and probably a damn sight more given Mr. Brooks surliness and primadonna attitude. If John says it, I'm likely to believe it until proven otherwise.
Blow it out your ass.
MY GOD spell it write.
wstüssyb wrote:
I would believe what he is saying over what QOL or QP will say, pretty sure at least 80% of QZ will say that.
I sure do!
"Elton John and I became really good friends. I don't mean 'good friends' in that sense. I just mean we slept together." -Billy Joel
I wish I lived in Europe... You guys get all the excellent QUEEN stuff... Here in the USA, all I can find is GH I,II,&III, Classic Queen, ANATO, ADATR, and Queen II. I hope those CD's are released here... I'll buy them ALL!
-KenJ
constant morphing, but keeps the brand fresh, probably a good idea, ANATO good place to start, Thanks! John S., but you got served by Neil
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so uhh...

1. will these be released in the US? I caught a reference to Hollywood in that first post.
2. is it guaranteed the entire back catalog WILL be released this way?

I think its a great idea for the fans to get what we want and for everyone to still make some money. Face it, a Queen anthology boxset would not fair well in the US market, least we are getting something.

As for the people complaining about DVDA, I agree, I love DVDA, but if you want to make money you have to adopt a consumer friendly format, DVDA doensn't look like its picking up speed anytime soon, and Queen cannot influence the DVDA market that strongly.
"the radio's playin Queen, and we're rockin out" - saves the day
Good points.
"Elton John and I became really good friends. I don't mean 'good friends' in that sense. I just mean we slept together." -Billy Joel
KenJ_1986 wrote:
I wish I lived in Europe... You guys get all the excellent QUEEN stuff... Here in the USA, all I can find is GH I,II,&III, Classic Queen, ANATO, ADATR, and Queen II. I hope those CD's are released here... I'll buy them ALL!


You should be able to get all of Queen's albums online now via Amazon, CDUniverse, Barnes & Noble, et cetera, if you can't find them where you live. As for the re-issues, if they're not released in the US, you will still be able to pick them up via any number of e-tailers. I'll probably get mine thru Amazon.co.uk
Blow it out your ass.
some say they don't believe the credibility of all this... it seems logical to do this right now... why? well Queen are coming back... so what better way to promote sales of re-releases than by going on tour. It'll get new fans to buy the classic albums and old fans to update their versions (for a 4th time ;)

But how will the y do it? Not a box set... their must be a reason for why it's been put off so long.... I don't know if anyone has heard of those double-sided disc with one side the album and the other side a DVD. This is a possibility... it's the newest medium and will cost less than producing a double-disc set.

I mentioned earlier that it would be a drag if they released a bunch of live tracks from variuous concerts to supplement the demos. Why do I say this? How many demos and outtakes do they still have in the vaults, of the earlier stuff at least? Didn't Brian say that in the beginning they would re-use a lot of the reels because they didn't have the cash to keep them in storage? I would say, if they can restore 40 minutes worth of unreleased studio gems, demos, outtakes or unfinished tracks (ex. Silver Salmon!) then this really would have been worth the wait and the cash.
Jimmy Dean wrote:
some say they don't believe the credibility of all this... it seems logical to do this right now... why? well Queen are coming back... so what better way to promote sales of re-releases than by going on tour. It'll get new fans to buy the classic albums and old fans to update their versions (for a 4th time ;)


I agree that, certainly from the management standpoint, re-releasing the catalogue with bonus material during the same period of time that the band members have gone on tour is probably the smartest way to maximize sales. Lots of promotion and publicity to entice newer fans to pick up the albums, *long* awaited rare material to hook the long time fans into buying the same albums they already own for the 4th or 5th time, and releasing each album seperately rather than in a box set encourages the more casual fan to pick up only the discs that have their favorite songs ("Oh look, Nigel! A 10 minute demo of 'I Want to Break Free'! Hoorah! Let's buy this one!") - as opposed one (or two or three) more expensive multi-disc box sets, which are going to appeal only to the hardcore audience (and not even all of them because of the prohibive cost).

But how will they do it? Not a box set... their must be a reason for why it's been put off so long...


I don't think the long delay is part of any plan or preconceived strategy on the part of the band. Given all the projects that have either been announced or have slipped out over the years that have never come to fruition (i.e. releasing 6 live shows on VHS over a two year period, as the fan club announced back in the late 90s, the VH-1 Storytellers with Dave and Taylor from the Foo Fighters that never happened, et cetera), I don't think the band plans much of anything. A lot of their moves seem kind of spur of the moment and half-baked, with not-so-good ideas (Greatest Hits 3, selling lower quality live bootlegs online) making it out to the public more often than potentially good ideas (the long delayed box sets).


I mentioned earlier that it would be a drag if they released a bunch of live tracks from variuous concerts to supplement the demos. Why do I say this? How many demos and outtakes do they still have in the vaults, of the earlier stuff at least? Didn't Brian say that in the beginning they would re-use a lot of the reels because they didn't have the cash to keep them in storage? I would say, if they can restore 40 minutes worth of unreleased studio gems, demos, outtakes or unfinished tracks (ex. Silver Salmon!) then this really would have been worth the wait and the cash.


I have the Fleetwood Mac re-releases that John has used as an illustration in talking about the Queen re-releases and they are really nice sets (although I know from a friend of mine who is a hardcore Fleetwood Mac fan that there were many widely available bootlegged demos that didn't make those sets which many FM fans would have preferred to the ones that *did* make those sets). Tusk and Rumours both had bonus discs that were packed. The re-issue of the 1975 self-titled album (or 'white album') didn't come with a bonus disc though because of sales concerns. Its a single disc, with a demo and 4 single versions rounding out the original album. That was a disappointment because there are a lot of terrific demos from that album floating around. I say all that to say that I hope we don't end up with a situation like that for the early Queen albums - not enough demo or rare material surviving from the era of 'Queen', 'Queen II', and 'Sheer Heart Attack' to fill a second disc, so we just get a few odd mixes or instrumentals tacked onto the end of the disc containing the original album. I understand if there's not much surviving from those sessions then they can't conjure it out of thin air, but I'll personally be disappointed if all of the re-releases aren't two discs of studio material.
Blow it out your ass.
Queen 1 would likely feature the 6 De Lane Lea studio demos?
Nonsense! There can be lengthy interviews with John Deacon about the underlying emotional subtext in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". Every 15 seconds he can pause to take a sip from his tea, and he can make it sound overly slurpy and disgusting.
Well, from the early years there's

De Lane Lea demos
KYA (Long Lost..)
Mad The Swine
BBC Sessions

and then any versions of Silver Salmon or Hangman that *may* be available (and Polar Bear too?)

and then the home demos - the early version of SHA (and will we get to hear The prophet's Song from 74 too?). And with the 'new' version of Teo Torriate, maybe there'll be some minor reworkings too.

The aspect that I've always felt let down with from the 94 ReMasters was the packaging, with some of the layouts falling well short of the standards of the original LPs (the 'white' Queen II centrefold as a b/w photocopy FFS!)and in other cases simply lacking (the cut-up back cover of SHA, band pics in ANATO etc). Here's a chance to put that right at last.
<font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:
Just one question: how are they gonna fill all those 2nd cd's? I mean, I don't think there's that much available for e.g. 'Flash Gordon' or 'Queen I'.


For Flash? You've got to be kidding! I am looking forward to all those different live versions were Freddie plays the parts of Flash and Dale Arden all by himself ("oohh Flash, I love ya, love ya, love ya!") as he did on the South American tour in 1981. Kills me everytime I hear it :-)