Arlene- Good post
Whoever up above compared Bill Wyman to Jagger...WAKE UP.
Jagger co-wrote every Stones original songs except 2 or 3.....
Wyman could be replaced by anyone.
I don't need to listen to the "new Queen material" to know it sucks.
I don't want to hear Rod Stewart singing for The Stones, I don't want Bowie singing for The Dave Matthews Band, and I sure as hell don't want to hear Paul Rodgers singing for Freddie Mercury's band.
And thats exactly what Queen was FREDDIE MERCURY'S BAND.
As Arlene just said....without Freddie, Brian and Roger with Staffel and a bass player would be Smile, some unknown band that opened for a few B-rate bands in the early 70's in the UK.
If Brian and Roger want to tour with the Muppets, and Ricky martin.... thats fine.
Don't call it Queen.
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"From my experience, those of us (like me) that feel that the Queen legacy should be laid to rest, and that NO Queen tour should happen without Freddie... these people typically tend to be the die hard fan where Queen is the absolute favorite band... and they have invested alot of time and money in this band.
The hillbilliy's that say "Duh, give Paul Rodgers a chance, that dude is cool"!.... These tend to be Queen fans, but usually not as dedicated of fans."
Scott_Mercury.... absolute bollocks.
that is almost an insult to suggest that, becuase I am happy to see half of Queen perform a mixture of songs with Paul Rodgers, I am not a real Queen fan. to suggest that i perhaps do not spend enough money on my favourite band (oh sorry, they're not my favourite band, im not a real fan) is utter crap.
it appears that, as your argument is shite, you resort to simple insults towards those with opinions different to yourself and the other silly minority.
perhaps it is you who are not the real fan, criticising two members of your so-called favourite band (as, of course, you ARE a real fan). how about try supporting them? or is it because you're are not a hillbilly that you are not ibliged to...?
The hillbilliy's that say "Duh, give Paul Rodgers a chance, that dude is cool"!.... These tend to be Queen fans, but usually not as dedicated of fans."
Scott_Mercury.... absolute bollocks.
that is almost an insult to suggest that, becuase I am happy to see half of Queen perform a mixture of songs with Paul Rodgers, I am not a real Queen fan. to suggest that i perhaps do not spend enough money on my favourite band (oh sorry, they're not my favourite band, im not a real fan) is utter crap.
it appears that, as your argument is shite, you resort to simple insults towards those with opinions different to yourself and the other silly minority.
perhaps it is you who are not the real fan, criticising two members of your so-called favourite band (as, of course, you ARE a real fan). how about try supporting them? or is it because you're are not a hillbilly that you are not ibliged to...?
Get a life or/and a girlfriend and you won't feel the need to open the very same discussion for n-th time. It's just pathetic.
And to all those who are making all the fuss about forgetting lyrics- just shows you have NEVER stood on stage during rock gig. Simple as that. You have no idea what you're talking about. Freddie was forgetting lyrics, Paul forgot lyrics, happens to fuckin everyone. The whole thread and the fact that we're discussing pretty much the same thing is just ridiculous.
Why do some ppl go bananas because of this tour and feel the urge to go to this forum and bash everything every once in a while. Almost seems like they couldn't go on with their lives without doing it. Are you that sad?
As I said- get a life. It helps...
And to all those who are making all the fuss about forgetting lyrics- just shows you have NEVER stood on stage during rock gig. Simple as that. You have no idea what you're talking about. Freddie was forgetting lyrics, Paul forgot lyrics, happens to fuckin everyone. The whole thread and the fact that we're discussing pretty much the same thing is just ridiculous.
Why do some ppl go bananas because of this tour and feel the urge to go to this forum and bash everything every once in a while. Almost seems like they couldn't go on with their lives without doing it. Are you that sad?
As I said- get a life. It helps...
This shit pisses me off get a life and move on! I'm going to see the REAL Queen in a few weeks a band I have been a REAL fan of for over 30 years and I cabn't wait!
Sad as it is Freddie died a few years back and therefore can't play on this tour sorry but GET OVER IT!
Sad as it is Freddie died a few years back and therefore can't play on this tour sorry but GET OVER IT!
This shit pisses me off get a life and move on! I'm going to see the REAL Queen in a few weeks a band I have been a REAL fan of for over 30 years and I cabn't wait!
Sad as it is Freddie died a few years back and therefore can't play on this tour sorry but GET OVER IT!
Well said Rich ... I'm with you there ....
Scott, you said "- Anyone want to see me puke?
Here's how you do it.....I need someone (usually someone born after Wayne's World came out, who thinks Queen formed in 1991) ..... or a burnt out junkie whose pushin 45 right now, who thinks their bar band is the next Queen to tell me "Scott, let the tour be!!, its the only way these young'ins will get to see Queen live"...
WRONG
If you haven't already seen Queen live in your life, then you aren't ever going to.
If the "Queen" concert you went to, didn't have Freddie Mercury out front, controlling the circus .... then you DID NOT* see Queen.
How about you and I meet in Cardiff and we'll argue it face to face .... I'm 48 and PROUD TO BE SEEING QUEEN + PAUL ROGERS and will be taking my son to see an amazing group
Anyone saying that Queen simply was Freddie's band can't be a "true" Queen fan (whatever that is). To me, the essence of Queen and their sound was Brian's guitar playing and Roger's drumming. Who's to say I'm wrong?
Anyone saying that Queen simply was Freddie's band can't be a "true" Queen fan (whatever that is). To me, the essence of Queen and their sound was Brian's guitar playing and Roger's drumming. Who's to say I'm wrong?
Speak to any major musician and Brians guitar was the Queen sound
This band has more dedicated fans to the REAL band Queen.
REAL FANS WILL NOT ACCEPT QUEEN WITHOUT FREDDIE OUT FRONT.
I'm one of those who doesn't consider this to be Queen in any way shape or form, but I don't agree that those who do are not "real fans". And yes I heard the concert!
What is the overall goal of denying the existance of Queen.
No-one here can change anything, so why is so much energy expended on this issue?
To those who keep making these claims, do you just like to "hear your own voice", or do you have some secret agenda?
Queen say they are Queen, so who are you arguing with?
No-one here can change anything, so why is so much energy expended on this issue?
To those who keep making these claims, do you just like to "hear your own voice", or do you have some secret agenda?
Queen say they are Queen, so who are you arguing with?
Arlene- Good post
Whoever up above compared Bill Wyman to Jagger...WAKE UP.
Jagger co-wrote every Stones original songs except 2 or 3.....
Wyman could be replaced by anyone.
You completely missed my point. I was not comparing Bill Wyman or Brian Jones to Mick Jagger, I was making the point that there are bands out there who have had line up changes and still been good.
Yes, but you try getting up in front of a packed stadium and sing songs that you aren't familiar with. I bet you wouldn't even make it past Roger's drum riser.
Yes, but I thought they had been rehearsing (cough cough) - actually I have not seen the video footage, only heard the audio, and I thought maybe Paul was drunk ?? (he likely was not, but on only hearing the audio, it sounded bad) Shame :-((
Who ever said that if you did not see Queen with Freddie and John, then yes it is too late to see Queen.Just like for me, it's too late to see Elvis or Buddy Holly, or the Beatles. That's just the way it is. What you will see is 2 former Queen members with non-Queen members. If that's your cup of tea - go for it! Ignorance is bliss!
"Scott, let the tour be!!, its the only way these young'ins will get to see Queen live"...
WRONG
If you haven't already seen Queen live in your life, then you aren't ever going to.
If the "Queen" concert you went to, didn't have Freddie Mercury out front, controlling the circus .... then you DID NOT* see Queen.
(*Did Not = Never happened in this case.)
Truer words were never spoken. Arlene has also made several logical points.
The thing I am trying to point out, is just how laughable and astonishing the *real* argument is-- and it's been underlying the entire time, which is, who are the "real" Queen fans? Are you kidding me? Nearly every thread has alot of shout outs to who the REAL fans are. Why don't you get into a shouting match on the playground as to if Superman is better than Spider-Man next. I've never seen such nonsense in my life. Why can't you all get along and agree to disagree?
I said it before; unless you have doubts deep down, and an overwhelming need to prove something, then what people say cannot affect you. Almost everyone that is overwhelmingly positive towards Queen + PR has stated that people saying anything slightly negative, or any small critique, are making it unbearable for the rest of you, or are spoiling the fun. If they are really such morons, you won't feel the need to argue and point out the reasons why this is still Queen.
And to everyone who believes this is not Queen, even if you are looking forward to a show (as am I), if you are confidant that this is the truth, then there is no need to go out and try to prove it in a million ways, however obvious it is.
WRONG
If you haven't already seen Queen live in your life, then you aren't ever going to.
If the "Queen" concert you went to, didn't have Freddie Mercury out front, controlling the circus .... then you DID NOT* see Queen.
(*Did Not = Never happened in this case.)
Truer words were never spoken. Arlene has also made several logical points.
The thing I am trying to point out, is just how laughable and astonishing the *real* argument is-- and it's been underlying the entire time, which is, who are the "real" Queen fans? Are you kidding me? Nearly every thread has alot of shout outs to who the REAL fans are. Why don't you get into a shouting match on the playground as to if Superman is better than Spider-Man next. I've never seen such nonsense in my life. Why can't you all get along and agree to disagree?
I said it before; unless you have doubts deep down, and an overwhelming need to prove something, then what people say cannot affect you. Almost everyone that is overwhelmingly positive towards Queen + PR has stated that people saying anything slightly negative, or any small critique, are making it unbearable for the rest of you, or are spoiling the fun. If they are really such morons, you won't feel the need to argue and point out the reasons why this is still Queen.
And to everyone who believes this is not Queen, even if you are looking forward to a show (as am I), if you are confidant that this is the truth, then there is no need to go out and try to prove it in a million ways, however obvious it is.
Steve P- If your old tired ass wants to meet to discuss this, lets do it.
However, I am a young strapping 26, and I have been a athlete all of my adult life.... at 6'1, 190lbs with 6% bodyfat, make sure you pack a lunch, show up sober, and clear your lungs of tar and nicotine if you are coming to "kick my ass".
Yes, I am a die hard Queen fan that happens to feel that John Deacon is the only one with a brain left.
Queen died 14 years ago....let it go.
I could care less if Paul Rodgers forgot the lyrics....he shouldn't be singing those damn lyrics anyway.
I've only said this 3, maybe 4 hundred times.
If the sixty year olds want to get together and do tired renditions of classic songs...FINE.
I just really wish they would drop the Queen name.
When I hear Queen, I think Freddie Mercury.
I doubt if he's going to be there.
Like its been mentioned above... this is a money motivation tour. It was probably thought from the beginning that Queen would pull in more numbers than "Bad Company" or "Free"....
If you are what I call a TRUE Queen fan, than while you may like Deacon, Taylor, May.... you have to agree that Freddie vision and presence is what made the band....
The others no doubt contributed.
But the Rolling Stones is a perfect example.
If Mick Jagger died tomorrow, The Rolling Stones wouldn't have a 2007 tour with Barry Manilow.
Whatever.... I'm just going to have to get Deacon to dust off his bass so he, I, Bette Midler, and Nathan Lane can tour as Queen also.
Maybe Jim Hutton, Peter Freestone, Mary Austin and Tim Staffel would like to join forces in a band???
With 2 gay guys on board... I have just the perfect name! Queen....
That name used to stand for something...now, well, you've heard.
However, I am a young strapping 26, and I have been a athlete all of my adult life.... at 6'1, 190lbs with 6% bodyfat, make sure you pack a lunch, show up sober, and clear your lungs of tar and nicotine if you are coming to "kick my ass".
Yes, I am a die hard Queen fan that happens to feel that John Deacon is the only one with a brain left.
Queen died 14 years ago....let it go.
I could care less if Paul Rodgers forgot the lyrics....he shouldn't be singing those damn lyrics anyway.
I've only said this 3, maybe 4 hundred times.
If the sixty year olds want to get together and do tired renditions of classic songs...FINE.
I just really wish they would drop the Queen name.
When I hear Queen, I think Freddie Mercury.
I doubt if he's going to be there.
Like its been mentioned above... this is a money motivation tour. It was probably thought from the beginning that Queen would pull in more numbers than "Bad Company" or "Free"....
If you are what I call a TRUE Queen fan, than while you may like Deacon, Taylor, May.... you have to agree that Freddie vision and presence is what made the band....
The others no doubt contributed.
But the Rolling Stones is a perfect example.
If Mick Jagger died tomorrow, The Rolling Stones wouldn't have a 2007 tour with Barry Manilow.
Whatever.... I'm just going to have to get Deacon to dust off his bass so he, I, Bette Midler, and Nathan Lane can tour as Queen also.
Maybe Jim Hutton, Peter Freestone, Mary Austin and Tim Staffel would like to join forces in a band???
With 2 gay guys on board... I have just the perfect name! Queen....
That name used to stand for something...now, well, you've heard.
Ticket sales have prooved that there are a lot of people who want to attend a Queen concert with hald the group that originally performed the songs.
Does it really matter what they call themselves, of course everybody knows it will not be the same as the past but to hear the songs played by Brian and Rog is good enough.
Does it really matter what they call themselves, of course everybody knows it will not be the same as the past but to hear the songs played by Brian and Rog is good enough.