Hypothetical question: Could it happen here?
WWW.Shareconnector.com has (amongst others) been SHUT down, and it's "owners" arrested NOT for HOSTING "illegal" files - but for LINKING (or POINTING) to "illegal" files.
Furthermore, the internet is littered with such dead bodies: www.sharereactor.com or www.svcdplaza.com to name another couple.
Those who say it can NOT happen HERE, should perhaps read the short transcript below, but before you do, I am no "Killjoy, badguy...", just someone who loves this 'zone and respects that it only takes one or two STUPID individuals to point to - or encourage ONE "Official" file too many - before they break the proverbial camel's back.
Please, can I ask ever so nicely, let's stop the "begging culture", and the temptation to link to OFFICIAL product, as to do so MAY result in disaster for us all.
Apart from the extract below, you can find the full version for yourselves at www.shareconnector.com (and before some smart-Alex starts with the legalities - the hard truth is - Shareconnector are STILL closed down - END OF STORY).
"I'll explain in short what... happened the day... SC was taken down. Foundation BREIN (dutch anti-piracy) requested permission from the public prosecutor to take SC down. BREIN told the public prosecutor that SC is taking part in illegal activities such as copyright infringement. As we all know it's not illegal by Dutch law to put eD2k links on a webpage, it's just a hashcode which describes a file so it has nothing to do with localization.
Without any (real) investigation they assumed BREIN was right and gave permission to FIOD-ECD (piracy tracing department) to seize the servers and take SC offline. That day only 1 person was arrested our SC ISP Zefanja, his computers etc. were seized and he was 2 days in jail...
The so called experts at FIOD-ECD didn't have a clue on how SC and eDonkey2k operated, so what the hell is their job then... They are now stretching time, doing nothing and calling it an investigation."
Hey, I only wrote this because I care about this place - but I accept that others may feel that I am pissing in the wind - and it is as much their 'zone - as it is mine.
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John, I couldn't agree with you more. With the amount of officially released material being tossed around QZ (including full albums by The Cross), it's only a matter of time before someone takes notice and then takes action.
I'm thinking perhaps a ban should be imposed on those who post links to official material.
Begging for mp3s of officially released material has to stop. And those who openly trade it thru MSN need to stop as well. If you must trade or post these songs please do it in another forum.
Begging for mp3s of officially released material has to stop. And those who openly trade it thru MSN need to stop as well. If you must trade or post these songs please do it in another forum.
We would be naive to be not concerned.
The recent EZT situation has proven one thing: no one is safe!
Richard needs to lay down some ground rules about offering links / torrents on QZ.
For most of us Queenzone is "home" on the net... and no one would want others to jeapordise that.
The recent EZT situation has proven one thing: no one is safe!
Richard needs to lay down some ground rules about offering links / torrents on QZ.
For most of us Queenzone is "home" on the net... and no one would want others to jeapordise that.
Agreed!
Too much officially released material lately. And we all know that Queenproductions is keeping an eye on these website offering music! (There have been Queen websites closed in the past that did not even have OFFICIALLY released stuff -just boots- on them and got closed for that.
Rules should be set indeed.
Too much officially released material lately. And we all know that Queenproductions is keeping an eye on these website offering music! (There have been Queen websites closed in the past that did not even have OFFICIALLY released stuff -just boots- on them and got closed for that.
Rules should be set indeed.
Now that would be ideal but unfortunately there will a few idiots who will still post official stuff even after they have been told otherwise.
Agree. If someone REALLY needs in some official tracks it's more easy to ask someone over e-mail than post requests and links here.
Agree. If someone REALLY needs in some official tracks it's more easy to ask someone over e-mail than post requests and links here.
If someone really NEEDS some official tracks then it is better for them to buy them.
In the case of Queen and other big bands they might not miss the money on a few illegal 'sales' but for a new band trying to breakthough then every sale is crucial - every unoffical download of a new/up & coming band kills off the grass roots of the industry.
As for bootlegs of gigs never to be released, share them with as many as you can for free - get rid of the e-bay traders and give the recordings away
I agree something needs to be done.
I think it's great we trade bootlegs, unreleased tracks, demos, interviews, remixes, etc ... but I think the torrenting of ENTIRE albums should be TOTALLY banned.
Full albums are a definante no-no, as well as album cuts.
I think it's great we trade bootlegs, unreleased tracks, demos, interviews, remixes, etc ... but I think the torrenting of ENTIRE albums should be TOTALLY banned.
Full albums are a definante no-no, as well as album cuts.
I agree something needs to be done.
I think it's great we trade bootlegs, unreleased tracks, demos, interviews, remixes, etc ... but I think the torrenting of ENTIRE albums should be TOTALLY banned.
Full albums are a definante no-no, as well as album cuts.
I dont know anything to add to that... Amen.
I agree something needs to be done.
I think it's great we trade bootlegs, unreleased tracks, demos, interviews, remixes, etc ... but I think the torrenting of ENTIRE albums should be TOTALLY banned.
Full albums are a definante no-no, as well as album cuts.
I dont know anything to add to that... Amen.
Edited - see below. Sorry
There's nothing wrong with sharing the Cross material on here, for crying out loud - the albums have been out of print for years and years.
Let them come.. I alone will destroy any threat to our community.. they are no match for the power of the Dark side of the Force..
Agree. If someone REALLY needs in some official tracks it's more easy to ask someone over e-mail than post requests and links here.
If someone really NEEDS some official tracks then it is better for them to buy them.
You didn't get my point - in some cases it's impossible to find a record (you CAN'T buy a legal copy of Mad, Bad And Dangerous To Know now for instance), so in this case I think you may ask for a couple of tracks but not in public place like this.
There's nothing wrong with sharing the Cross material on here, for crying out loud - the albums have been out of print for years and years.
I would advise anyone against paying for any Cross album - don't waste you're money, they're bloody awful.