Queenzone Are Next?

Serry Funster wrote:

kyassor wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

Agree. If someone REALLY needs in some official tracks it's more easy to ask someone over e-mail than post requests and links here.

If someone really NEEDS some official tracks then it is better for them to buy them.

You didn't get my point - in some cases it's impossible to find a record (you CAN'T buy a legal copy of Mad, Bad And Dangerous To Know now for instance), so in this case I think you may ask for a couple of tracks but not in public place like this.

I totally agree. No officially-released material should be shared on here. If it is out of print (and therefore unavailable) then it is acceptable to share a few tracks through e-mail (but not in a public place like this). After all, what is the point in going to all the trouble of sourcing out such hard-to-find material if it turns out you don't like it after-all ('cos no-body would let you listen to a few songs to see if you did).

neeuqfonafamai wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

kyassor wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

Agree. If someone REALLY needs in some official tracks it's more easy to ask someone over e-mail than post requests and links here.

If someone really NEEDS some official tracks then it is better for them to buy them.

You didn't get my point - in some cases it's impossible to find a record (you CAN'T buy a legal copy of Mad, Bad And Dangerous To Know now for instance), so in this case I think you may ask for a couple of tracks but not in public place like this.

I totally agree. No officially-released material should be shared on here. If it is out of print (and therefore unavailable) then it is acceptable to share a few tracks through e-mail (but not in a public place like this). After all, what is the point in going to all the trouble of sourcing out such hard-to-find material if it turns out you don't like it after-all ('cos no-body would let you listen to a few songs to see if you did).

The arguments for aquiring the Cross stuff is well argued, but unfortunately I dont think QP or the record company, in this case Virgin (I think thats who the Cross are were with) would see it that way. They would probably see it as either "theft" or lost revenue.

Mr Mercury wrote:

neeuqfonafamai wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

kyassor wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

Agree. If someone REALLY needs in some official tracks it's more easy to ask someone over e-mail than post requests and links here.

If someone really NEEDS some official tracks then it is better for them to buy them.

You didn't get my point - in some cases it's impossible to find a record (you CAN'T buy a legal copy of Mad, Bad And Dangerous To Know now for instance), so in this case I think you may ask for a couple of tracks but not in public place like this.

I totally agree. No officially-released material should be shared on here. If it is out of print (and therefore unavailable) then it is acceptable to share a few tracks through e-mail (but not in a public place like this). After all, what is the point in going to all the trouble of sourcing out such hard-to-find material if it turns out you don't like it after-all ('cos no-body would let you listen to a few songs to see if you did).

The arguments for aquiring the Cross stuff is well argued, but unfortunately I dont think QP or the record company, in this case Virgin (I think thats who the Cross are were with) would see it that way. They would probably see it as either "theft" or lost revenue.

Didn't say they would like it! But maybe they might get the point and make it available, after all they can't make revenue from something they are not selling.

MBADTK was released by Parlophone.

Just take a look at 'Rating' of this album (seems as it's impossible to get even if you're in UK):
http://www.pcpki.com/cgi-bin/discography.cgi?ra:MAD+BAD+AND+DANGEROUS+TO+KNOW

I don't know how young and new fans have to buy legal copy of this record! But when someone asks for stuff like 'Thank God It's Christmas' because they don' want to buy GHIII (which still is available everywhere) - that's wrong...

I Agree with you John!

Please stop sharing official products!

I think Queenproductions is tollerating the situation on queenzone (downloading from concerts etc) because they know that it's sharing the music (among fans who buy all official queen products, or most of them do) and it will happen anyway (swapping bootlegs) Let's not spoil this by putting official material online!

btw.. i think the cross has some good songs! I like the blue rock album!

Serry Funster wrote:

MBADTK was released by Parlophone.

I don't know how young and new fans have to buy legal copy of this record!...

One word: eBay

Inu Yasha<h6>a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

MBADTK was released by Parlophone.

I don't know how young and new fans have to buy legal copy of this record!...

One word: eBay

Agreed. If you want something that badly, then keep searching for it, and one day it will be there.

Can't say anything else that's already been said here. Keep official things official by buying them, and spread only unofficial things, because (if I may paraphrase your old signature, Mike) an artist cannot claim lost revenue from an item that isn't in their catalogue.

Mr Mercury wrote:

Now that would be ideal but unfortunately there will a few idiots who will still post official stuff even after they have been told otherwise.

And they are at it again. Check this thread

http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=509413

Mr Mercury wrote:

neeuqfonafamai wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

kyassor wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

Agree. If someone REALLY needs in some official tracks it's more easy to ask someone over e-mail than post requests and links here.

If someone really NEEDS some official tracks then it is better for them to buy them.

You didn't get my point - in some cases it's impossible to find a record (you CAN'T buy a legal copy of Mad, Bad And Dangerous To Know now for instance), so in this case I think you may ask for a couple of tracks but not in public place like this.

I totally agree. No officially-released material should be shared on here. If it is out of print (and therefore unavailable) then it is acceptable to share a few tracks through e-mail (but not in a public place like this). After all, what is the point in going to all the trouble of sourcing out such hard-to-find material if it turns out you don't like it after-all ('cos no-body would let you listen to a few songs to see if you did).

The arguments for aquiring the Cross stuff is well argued, but unfortunately I dont think QP or the record company, in this case Virgin (I think thats who the Cross are were with) would see it that way. They would probably see it as either "theft" or lost revenue.

Agreed. No one ever said they were very practical or reasonable about that sort of thing. If a case were ever broghut for it, I would like to challange them to find a legal non-secondhand copy.

Inu Yasha<h6>a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

MBADTK was released by Parlophone.

I don't know how young and new fans have to buy legal copy of this record!...

One word: eBay

eBay is the same for the record company as illegal downloads, they don't get money either way.

Ms. Farenheit wrote:

Inu Yasha<h6>a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

MBADTK was released by Parlophone.

I don't know how young and new fans have to buy legal copy of this record!...

One word: eBay

eBay is the same for the record company as illegal downloads, they don't get money either way.

exactly.. what if I buy the MB&DTK cd rip it, and then sell the original on Ebay.. I have the songs, got my money back and someone has an official CD.. to me it is no different than actually downloading it.. I am not FOR the downloading of official stuff.. IF it can be bought.. but I have not seen much in the line of Cross or Rogers solo stuff EXCEPT on EBay..

I think these record company's are making too big a deal out of this. I mean lets be HONEST here.. How many people bought a cassette tape.. and dubbed it for a friend back in the day.. its the same FREAKING thing.. copyright infringment, MOvies recorded off the TV.. who has recorded the Superbowl game, the baseball game.. it is the same thing... I think the ONLY way to stop it is to BAN VCRs, DVD players, computers, tape recorders.. ect.. it is NOT going to go away.. and neither is the person that wants to download official stuff.. as long as there is a demand there will be a supply..

Sorry for that... I get all worked up with this issue.

Lord Darth Mike: Please (re)READ the opening post.

Whether it is wrong, right or even justified - the sad TRUTH is that illegal downloading CAN SHUT Queenzone DOWN. End of Story. Copying discs or tapes WILL NOT.

And WHEN it does close - where will we all go then? I know that the leechers won't really bother, as they will just ship-out and encamp elsewhere. But for the rest of us, it will be a very sad day indeed.

Just a very sad case of the very selfish few, spoiling it for the vast majority of others.

Ms. Farenheit wrote:

eBay is the same for the record company as illegal downloads, they don't get money either way.

Disagree... the company has already made money off the original because it was once bought. If the original purchaser chooses to sell it off, then that's their choice.

If they choose to copy the material before-hand, that's also their choice. But how does it harm the record company or whoever if it was already bought once?