Van Halen VS Van Hagar

Considering I saw "Van Hagar" I tend to like VH with Hagar better. He's more musician than Roth. David Lee is just too cocky for me to stand. My mother saw David Lee in '88 and loves him and we always bitch whose better... :-)

Samuel wins
for the montrose album
and the early hagar solo stuff
but most of all - because he added something to van halen, while rothschild was busy shagging and drinking his creativity to death

and (as the eunuch said to the actress) i have nothing against the idea! - of drinking and shagging - but lets face it dave was so boringly predictable in this department

I don't care for either.

David Lee Roth was great, and so was Sammy Hagar...but it's Gary 'Whats His Name?' who really sucks, the album Van Halen 3 is totally shit house, much worse than any thing Sammy did with them. But yes The David Lee Roth era was the best.

David Lee Rocks wrote:

If you read Dave's book (Crazy From The Heat) he explains why he left VH. In 1996 the VH sisters fucked with Dave from the beginning. They wouldn't even let him in the studio to record the 2 new songs. They put him in a seperate room and gave him headphones and a microphone. The reason he originally left VH was because, after '1984', the sisters and Spam's lover, bass player Mike Anthony, wouldn't get together to make the next album, they were all in different parts of the world, and kept pushing back the date for the first rehearsal. So, Dave released his 'Crazy From The Heat' EP. Then, so that he was doing something, he made a video for 'California Girls'. He was still waiting, so he made a video for 'Just A Gigolo'. Still waiting, so he LEFT. Why should he wait around for the rest of the band when he's got all that material waiting to be recorded?

That's a very one sided version of the story.

If David Lee Roth truly went through all of this, he would have never agreed to come back with Van Halen in 1996.
Now, I'm not blaming David Lee Roth completely because Eddie Van Halen happens to be an over controlling freak and he'd take matters straight to the heart whenever someone disagreed with him. Each one of those guys have their share of blame.

For me it will always be Van Halen with David Lee Roth as they were the first band I ever saw live as support to Black Sabbath

David!! He has humour and a great voice!

Spam in various interviews claims that Van Hagar sold
a) more records than...
b)3 times more with sammy than dave.... and finally
c) 42 million records.... with sam... as said on the mtv news interview in 1997 after his ass was canned....

here are the offical record sales as of may 2004 according to Van Halen's offical site...

David Lee Roth era 1974-1984: total 34 million albums (not including re-issues)...

VHI-(Diamond)-10 million copies
VHII-5 million copies
Women And Children First- 3 million copies
Fair Warning- 2 million copies
Diver Down- 4 million copies
1984-(Diamond)-10 million copies

Sammy Hagar era 1-1985-1996: total 16 million albums....

5150-6million copies
OU812-4 million copies
For Unlawful Carnal Knowlage-3 million copies
Live Right Here Right Now-2 million copies
Balance- 3 million copies....

34 million... minus... 16 million ... comes out to be 18 million... so there for 18 million more for Roth that Sammy....

Roth - 34 million
Hagar-16 million

The album with Gary Cherone sold 500,000 copies.

Find a new hobby.

<font color=yellowgreen>LiveAidQueen wrote:

Find a new hobby.

I second that, Kayla.

Besides, this is a Queen board. I guess this guy got tired of picking fights with Van Halen fans who like Sammy Haggar, or he probably got banned from the Van Halen boards and now has nowhere to go.

Don't be stupid-I don't post at a Van Halen board, I post at a Roth board.

And I am aware that this a Queen site, but, if you noticed this is the PERSONAL section, not a place for Queen discussion.

That entire post was copied and pasted from the Roth forums.

<font color=yellowgreen>LiveAidQueen wrote:

Find a new hobby.

My hobby is music. I don't care for sport (or outdoor activities in general, seriously, why do things when you can just watch them on TV), I don't care for art, I don't care for history-what's left? Music. And when you are a big fan of something, you tend to pick a lot of things up. I was just vaccinated with a phonograph needle as a baby. I found this on a Roth site. I was simply backing up my argument with official record figures.

Here's the rub as they say.

I LOVE and prefer David Lee Roth with Van Halen. I mean Hagar rocks, but Roth's prescence, live performances, voice...just matched Eddie & the boys and had a very unique and perfect chemistry. I love Dance The Night Away, Dancin' In The Streets, Runnin' With The Devil, Jump, I'll Wait, and so on.

But...solo wise...I LOVE Sammy Hagar. I adore his recent Greatest Hits album with "I'll Fall In Love Again", "Heavy Metal", "When Eagles Fly", "Big Motor Scooter". Solo I thought he was GREAT. The Red Menace as they say!

Okay...

The only thing that Spammy has done that I like was the first Montrose album. But, that was more Ronnie Montrose than Spammy Haggis.

Actually, he has just announced that he has left Van Hagar, and there are rumours of Dave re-joining. They are all older now, they should bury the hatchett, or whatever they say.