Houston 1977 complete

Erin wrote:

10 bucks says it doesn't get shared..hmm

Thats an easy bet, you always winn :)

Keep Yourself Alive wrote:

I don't know what to do :S I mean I can get many more rare bootlegs for this one, but I will see, maybe I put it here, maybe not.

Could you please send me an e-mail, see my profile.

Well well...Rick...i understand that you might loose an item with wich you enlarge your own collection, and enrich yourself that way, but it is a recording of a PUBLIC show, visited by thousands, and you are most certainly not the only person allowed to enjoy this great show...and have profit from it !! How selfish can one get? I have always been accused of, and blamed for bootlegging, wich i never did. The few tapes that i have recorded myself,are personal souvenirs, shared by me with Queen and the management only...and Greg Brooks to make his work completer, but sure as hell NEVER to make a profit with that !! QUEEN are the ONLY ones to have profit from their work and efforts, and we, the enjoying fans should share without profit. And if there is anyone who has my recordings, then i choose to copy that for that person only as a special gift, to enjoy privately and not be put on the internet for others to make profit from my work.
I while ago, there was this cd going around from one person to another with michael jackson and so, the hot space demo's, the greg brook stuff from the conventions, and in the beginning that was rare too...now you find this stuff on every site you search for it, from kazaa to bearshare. It is beautiful that WE can ALL enjoy these rarities and that they are not for just a few people makeing profits in any form...
I think that you are afraid that you can no longer take and make advantage of this recording all by yourself...
pitty isn't it? That now your chicken that lays the golden egg, becomes a new mercury phoenix rising for us all?
there is enough rare stuff out there to trade with, with other people, untill that becomes public aswell...and so we go on....in the end it isn't that bad at all...either only you are happy and the few you trade with, or ALL queenfans can enjoy and see why this show was so splendid...and in my opinion, that is what counts !!!
Basje

Well spoken Bas :)

I'm with Erin!

Allright, ban me! I can't say anything good!

the_hero wrote:

Rick wrote:

Many traders did very much effort to get it. They are rewarded. Collecting and trading is fun, lets keep it that way.

My god we're not living 30 years back anymore... A thing called internet has been coming a huge media...

Snap out of it, get a life... there is more in life than trading, and I can know because I'm a trader as well

I have a life. I've got a girlfriend, I've got a job and I enjoy life. So fuck off with your 'Get a life!' Trading is a hobby of mine. What is so fun about downloading a bootleg from the internet?

the fun is that you can listen to it.
that's what Queen is for.

the_hero wrote:

Rick wrote:

Allright, ban me! I can't say anything good!

There's no reason to ban you to be honest.. and 2nd. Stop acting so childish and deal with critisism

Ik ben niet kinderachtig, ik spreek gewoon de waarheid. Jij bent geen echte trader, die download geen bootlegs van internet en ruilt ze door. Nee, die probeert zoveel mogelijk connecties te krijgen en dan maar hopen dat je een deal kunt sluiten. Het verzamelen en ruilen van bootlegs is leuk om te doen, laten we dat zo houden. En dat is niet domweg van internet plukken. Als we met zn allen zulke bootlegs gaan downloaden, dan het is 'traden' geen begrip meer. Alle bekende traders zoals Harry van Hofwegen en Bob Wegner hebben er veel moeite voor moeten doen om hun collectie zo uitgebreid te krijgen. Waar je moeite voor doet, dat wordt beloond. How easy is that?

Hmm... I'm not to bothered about the whole thing. If it becomes available I'll download it. If not, I won't waste my time lamenting about elitist traders.

Regarding Ricks protest about sharing Houston:
You win some, you lose some.
Isn't that what trading (and life) is all about?

Believe me, the complete Houston 1977 bootleg really isn't that rare as it used to be a couple of years ago....

the_hero wrote:

Rick wrote:

the_hero wrote:

Rick wrote:

Allright, ban me! I can't say anything good!

There's no reason to ban you to be honest.. and 2nd. Stop acting so childish and deal with critisism

Ik ben niet kinderachtig, ik spreek gewoon de waarheid. Jij bent geen echte trader, die download geen bootlegs van internet en ruilt ze door. Nee, die probeert zoveel mogelijk connecties te krijgen en dan maar hopen dat je een deal kunt sluiten. Het verzamelen en ruilen van bootlegs is leuk om te doen, laten we dat zo houden. En dat is niet domweg van internet plukken. Als we met zn allen zulke bootlegs gaan downloaden, dan het is 'traden' geen begrip meer. Alle bekende traders zoals Harry van Hofwegen en Bob Wegner hebben er veel moeite voor moeten doen om hun collectie zo uitgebreid te krijgen. Waar je moeite voor doet, dat wordt beloond. How easy is that?

First of all, speak English so other people can read it.. 2nd... I don't download concerts to trade them.. I upload them in here. I have offered about 20 Queen mp3 cds over the years and shift them to any country for free, I sometimes get something in return and sometimes I don't, I don't care. And that Harry and Bob had so many struggles to get this doesn't bring a tear in my eyes.

Okay, it seems that no-one here agrees with me. It's okay, you guys have some good points. I'm really not selfish or insane. I'm just proud of what I own, is that wrong? And the_hero, I don't want this discussion turned into a fight, but I don't like the way you say 'Get a life' and so on. I want to have fun with trading, you make friends and that's nice. Rewarded for something where you worked hard for is nice. Sorry that I said that you aren't a real trader, I shouldn't have said that. But still, I don't agree with this.

the_hero wrote:

Plengel wrote:

Believe me, the complete Houston 1977 bootleg really isn't that rare as it used to be a couple of years ago....

Isn't kawazari?? 1979 something like that one of the most hard to get concerts these days?

Kanazawa 1979. But that one isn't that rare, really.

Rick wrote:

the_hero wrote:

Rick wrote:

Allright, ban me! I can't say anything good!

There's no reason to ban you to be honest.. and 2nd. Stop acting so childish and deal with critisism

Ik ben niet kinderachtig, ik spreek gewoon de waarheid. Jij bent geen echte trader, die download geen bootlegs van internet en ruilt ze door. Nee, die probeert zoveel mogelijk connecties te krijgen en dan maar hopen dat je een deal kunt sluiten. Het verzamelen en ruilen van bootlegs is leuk om te doen, laten we dat zo houden. En dat is niet domweg van internet plukken. Als we met zn allen zulke bootlegs gaan downloaden, dan het is 'traden' geen begrip meer. Alle bekende traders zoals Harry van Hofwegen en Bob Wegner hebben er veel moeite voor moeten doen om hun collectie zo uitgebreid te krijgen. Waar je moeite voor doet, dat wordt beloond. How easy is that?

iik ook uuk

the_hero wrote:
I don't download concerts to trade them.. I upload them in here. I have offered about 20 Queen mp3 cds over the years and shift them to any country for free, I sometimes get something in return and sometimes I don't, I don't care. And that Harry and Bob had so many struggles to get this doesn't bring a tear in my eyes.

ditto. i didn't think twice about sending out loads of BoRhap docu dvds out over Xmas, and there was hardly any "trades" offered in return
- the vast majority were sent out "gratis"
howver, can i get anoyone anywhere to trade houston? - NO!!! so i say - upload the bastard and let everyone enjoy it...why do people have to be elitest about the remaining "unheard" handful of songs? what if i'd said fuck it, i'll keep my sky+ crystal clear dvd of bo-rhap to myself at christmas? - most queen fans would be watching shitty windows media player version of it even now...