Freddie and touring

Mariam wrote:

He didnt know in 1986.
I agree. Even if he had AIDS , he didnt know about it.
Why everybody tell different things? Why it s so many lie? Its not only people memory. As example, we didnt read so strange things in Mike Jagger 's biography.
Fenderek, Mary said that Freddie lived with AIDS more that 7 years.

Miriam, I read that too in interviews with Mary Austin. Which would mean Freddie knew he had AIDS since approximately, lets see he passed away 1991, subtract 7 years...about 1984-1985? She claimes he told her 1984. So many contradictory stories it's unreal.

The ONLY PROOF of ever knowing when Freddie knew, was if his sealed, confidential medical documents with the AIDS test results were ever released, which will proabaly never happen, as medical records are legally confidential. But THAT would reveal the truth about exactly when Freddie knew...BUT, ONLY Freddie.

As for who he told, when, and first and in what order, being the band, Mary, Jim, Peter, friends, family, anybody...that is all up to these individual people's accurate or inaccurate memories/stories, conjecture, their "side" of the story, etc. so we will never have proof of any of their stories, only their word.

I find it uselss to discuss this, as we will never know.

IMO I'll stick freddie finding out he had it 100% in 1987, and Hard to explain it, but him sort of knowing he had it years before, changing his lifestyle a little or trying to beat the odds that he had it.

yeah 1987 seems to fit it best...in accordance to other peoples recollections

Perhaps anyone knows when Freddie most likely was affected with HIV? Most them dying of AIDS before 1995 have according to their doctors had HIV/AIDS for 9 years or less. Perhaps Freddie was affected in 1982? But when he found out he had it is not my question.

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

She claimes he told her 1984.

Show me (direct me to) the source of that.

Fenderek wrote:

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

She claimes he told her 1984.

Show me (direct me to) the source of that.

From Mary's Interview with David Wigg, "Mercury Left me His Millions."

"Freddie lived with the knowledge that he was HIV-positive for seven years."

in link below...

http://www.brianmay.com/freddie/dm220100/dm220100.html

Hmm...
Daily Mail? Is it reliable?
If it is- that's interesting... But than a grain of salt again- John in one interview said there were 7 bass players before him in Queen. It was 3... But I can give you that- there is a source stating that, and must admit didn't know that one...

I think Freddie did know while touring with Queen (The Magic Tour)

I have a interview in which Brian says that Freddie and John had a quarrel after or before a concert. Freddie said the tour was probably the last tour of Queen. Everybody was shocked and didn't asked further. But Brian saw that Freddie was serious, and later on Brian remembered this and is now sure that Freddie knew by then.

i would imagine that freddie suspected that he had AIDS in 1986. however jim hutton states easter 1987 as the time he was told. i'm sure he would have been one of the very first to know, what with him being freddie's partner and at risk. freddie didn't start a relationship with jim hutton till 1985, therfore i doubt he would have known in 1984 and willingly infected jim hutton.

doesn't jim hutton say something about john deacon asking, on holiday in ibiza, in about 1987 /1988 what the [aids related] marks were on freddie's leg. hutton claimed john was told that freddie was allergic to the sun. therefore it is highly unlikely that he had told bri rog and john before then. i seem to recall an interview which said that he didn't tell queen till after the innuendo sessions. when he stated that he wanted to carry on working till he dropped.

jim hutton also says that he told dominique taylor that he had aids in the late 80s after she confided in him that she had breast cancer

Who knows, why would Mary Austin lie though? maybe he had it since 84/85 from his own calculations. He probably found out he had it in 97 and just estimated he contracted HIV in 84/85. Maybe someone he let tap that ass died of AIDS related complications and he just put it together in hindsight. Who knows and really who cares...wait, tahts stupid, cause I care. Anyway I always thought he told the band during the Miracle sessions, thats what I got based on the VH-1 legends (the higher classed Behind the Music doc they did for the actual great artists, no offense to MC Hammer or KC and the sunshine band, they're behind the musics rocked) documentary from the Brian May interview. Logic fits with that as well, let's remember that was the first album they didnt tour for, I'm sure some understanding had to be made.

Anyway about the avg 9 yr span thing someone brought up, let's not forget that Freddie did go off his medications before he died so who knows how much longer he wouldve lived...ofcourse I dont know if thats fact, tahts just something I read from a "source" and is probably not worth more than anything else posted in this thread.




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More evidence that he probably didnt tell the other band members til aftyer the innuendo sessions is the fact that the individual members stopped being credited as song writers starting with the miracle. Thats a small thing but could be an indication or innuendo.

I'm such a genius

According to Peter Freestone's book, Freddie didn't know until 1987 that he had got AIDS, so how could tell the others in 1986?

he told me down the pub one night in 1980, i just got the round in and he blurted it out. we were all gobsmacked "i reckon ive got that aids thingy" were his very words. "i reckon ill write a song or two about it" i said fuck that mate just make sure you get the next round in.

Sometimes I'd like to take a shotgun and just start exploding heads.

Well for some reason I believe Jim Hutton ove her and he agrees with Freestone and says 1987. I mean you're telling me Freddie was in such a state of denial that he knowingly infected Jim Hutton and didn't make any significant lifestyle changes. !987 seems to fit, finding out you have full blown AIDS have to be tough, I would say maybe he found out he was HIV positive in 1984 and didn't understand what it was but I'm sure the doctors even in those primitive days of HIV/AIDS would've explained to him what that meant. I'm so smart.