Great Review of Revenge Of The Sith

Mr.Jingles79 wrote:

Lucas said he's done with the Star Wars movies, and he won't be directing, writing, or producing any more films in what would is rumored to be a new trilogy with episodes VII, VII, and IX.

He said however that he's working on a TV series that is going to tie up episodes III, and IV.

And I'll beleive that when Yoda comes over my house tonight for dinner! LOL!

Lucas SWORE that in 1983..he was finished with Star Wars...and yet...May The Force Be With Him!

Read all the "rumored press" in SFX, Dreamquest, etc. most of the film/science fiction mags, they all say "another chapter"....

Oh...Jingles our hate for Rolling Stone in their mean regards to Queen, notwithstanding, PLEASE read the outstanding Cover Story in RS with Darth Vader on the cover...covering Darth Vader as the Greatest Villain in Film History, . all about the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin/Vader with Excellent in depth interviews with George Lucas...and...

Interviews with Heyden Christiansan as Anakin, Jake Lloyd as little Anakin, Mark Hamill as Luke/Anakin's son, David Prowse as the body of Vader, and James Earl Jones as the voice of Vader. I read it like 3 times. Very well done.

I hate Rolling Stone, so I will just go to Barnes and Noble and read the whole thing.

Mr.Jingles79 wrote:

I hate Rolling Stone, so I will just go to Barnes and Noble and read the whole thing.

That's what I do all the time with RS. I never buy it. I read it our Barnes & Nobles here in Maryland. You really will love it though.

Check out this animated graphic.

About a third of George Lucas' interview is on the website.

If you want to read the entire interview with George Lucas and also the interviews with Heyden Christensen, Mark Hamill, James Earl Jones, Jake Lloyd, & David Prowse go look at the actual magazine.

http://www.rollingstone.com/?rnd=1116890975671&has-player=false

Saw "Revenge of the Sith" yesterday. I'm not a major Star Wars fan, but it was enjoyable enough, and certainly better than the last couple. The sadist in me loved seeing pretty-boy Anakin having his remaining limbs chopped off and then set on fire. Tee hee!

What a film...

Very well done. Acting wasn't at all bad in my opinion, and I've always liked Hayden Christiansen, especially his powerful representations of anger and evil. Sometimes I get the impression that people are quick to jump on the "the Prequel Trilogy are and the actors are crap" bandwagon in a similar way that some on here are quick to say "Paul Rodgers and Queen are rubbish, I don't believe in Queen past 1991", which is a shame if you can't form your own opinions. But that isn't pointed at anyone in particular.

But, how can people say it has tied everything up and they understand everything in the Original Trilogy becuase of this? For example... why doesn't Obi-Wan remember Leia? ("That boy is our only hope...") when he bloody 'helped' deliver the babies? What does Qui-Gon teach Obi-Wan on Tatooine? When Luke asks Yoda if Han, Leia etc will die when on Cloud City and Yoda says "hard to see the future is" - why doesn't he sense Chewbacca's presence - especially since he was a good friend of Yoda's? Just simple things that don't quite make sense. How did, and for how long previous to the end of the Clone Wars, has the Emporer amassed such an army (e.g. the 'soldiers' we see in grey suits throughout the Original Trilogy - did he despense of the clones and the droids?).

I think of so many more points the more I delve...

There's a lot more questions to be answered GreatKingSam...

- Why didn't Obi Wan kill Anakin when he had the chance? I know Jedis are supossed to kill only in self defense and without being driven by hatred. Anakin was burning in a puddle of lava, at least Obi Wan should put him out of his fuckin' misery so he doesn't suffer anymore.

- Why does Leia say that she remembers her mother? Is she talking about the wife of Senator Organa, or Padme? If she's talking about Padme, then how can she remember what happened when she was a couple of minutes old?

Mr.Jingles79 wrote:

There's a lot more questions to be answered GreatKingSam...

- Why didn't Obi Wan kill Anakin when he had the chance? I know Jedis are supossed to kill only in self defense and without being driven by hatred. Anakin was burning in a puddle of lava, at least Obi Wan should put him out of his fuckin' misery so he doesn't suffer anymore.

- Why does Leia say that she remembers her mother? Is she talking about the wife of Senator Organa, or Padme? If she's talking about Padme, then how can she remember what happened when she was a couple of minutes old?

Mr. J. since though I have not yet seen the film yet, I know enough about the end already..so please tell me one thing I want to know.

Does Padme die in childbirth as Anakin had dreamed in his nightmare, or does she live? What happens to her?

Remember what Yoda said - through the Force you can visit people, old friends, long gone. I believe it is the mother-daughter bond bought forward into her memories via the Force, and because, at the time, she didn't have a reason to believe these memories were planted there, she accepts them as if they were reality as such. Notice how she talks more about feelings (she was always very said etc).

And as for Obi-Wan, there are a couple of angles you can look at it. Firstly that he wanted Anakin to suffer and assumed his death was imminent. Secondly, that perhaps he realised that he could still be the chosen one, just in a different way the Jedi has thought and assumed. For example, when Yoda says how the Prophecy could have been miss-read: that perhaps Anakin was still the chosen and WOULD eventually bring balance to the Force, but to do so he had to become evil and the Jedi had to become all but extinct, becuase in the end the Force is balanced per se.

One of the things that has gripped me is the emergance of Darth Plageus the Wise (that Palpatine talks about), who was murdered by his pupil in his sleep. To me, Palpatine was the pupil, and through Plageus' teachings, Palpatine learned how to create life from the midicloriens, thus created Anakin for the sole purpose of turning him to evil. Which brings us to the conclusion that everything that happens has been planned by the Emperor - except for him not being able to forsee the birth of Luke (and Leia to an extent).

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Mr.Jingles79 wrote:

There's a lot more questions to be answered GreatKingSam...

- Why didn't Obi Wan kill Anakin when he had the chance? I know Jedis are supossed to kill only in self defense and without being driven by hatred. Anakin was burning in a puddle of lava, at least Obi Wan should put him out of his fuckin' misery so he doesn't suffer anymore.

- Why does Leia say that she remembers her mother? Is she talking about the wife of Senator Organa, or Padme? If she's talking about Padme, then how can she remember what happened when she was a couple of minutes old?

Mr. J. since though I have not yet seen the film yet, I know enough about the end already..so please tell me one thing I want to know.

Does Padme die in childbirth as Anakin had dreamed in his nightmare, or does she live? What happens to her?

Great King Sam or Mr J...please answer my question.

Hmm, I feel somewhat guilty about talking so openly about the film now, perhaps we should have put a spoiler warning on the thread or something.

However, as such, she does die during/after childbirth, but I wouldn't say it was as a direct result of childbirth. I guess you'll just have to see the film...!!

GreatKingSam wrote:

Hmm, I feel somewhat guilty about talking so openly about the film now, perhaps we should have put a spoiler warning on the thread or something.

However, as such, she does die during/after childbirth, but I wouldn't say it was as a direct result of childbirth. I guess you'll just have to see the film...!!

Which shows that one of the MAIN reasons that Anakin turned to the dark side (from what I have heard), being that he thought the power of the dark side could give him power over life & death, and he could save Padme...he turned to evil..for nothing...since one cannot change fate/destiny..and the balance of things as they are to be.

So tragic this film and story is. Everyone we love as characters and heroes, dies and/or suffers.

Anakin dies (in a sense) esuing virtue to become the evil of Darth Vader, Padme dies, Obi wan loses 2 of his dearest friends who are like family to him. This film is heartbreaking.

Even knowing how it all wraps up "happy" in "return Of The Jedi" when Anakin is redeemed by Luke and becomes good, and Yoda's, Obi Wan's and Anakin's spirits are still alive and look fondly at Luke, finally at peace.....it still is after decades of death and evil from when the Empire kills off the Jedi and takes over the Galaxies, and Anakin does forsake his mortal "good" life, Padme dies, Obi Wan becomes an old recluse...so sad.

You think that is sad lol.

There are some scenes in the movie that made me slightly tearful. Let us know when you've finally seen it (which is going to be...?) just to see if it did illicit the same reaction from you.

I didn't anticipate or really think about the scene I'm talking about, and I think that is what shocked me most, becuase that part of the story slipped my mind. And as for Obi-Wan's 'speech' at the end - I thought that was awesome.

I tell you what, it does completely change your opinion of Darth Vader as a being also, given his struggle and reason that he turned and gave his life up, and it changes views of the Emporer also. He was always evil, no doubt about it, but there is something far more sinister about his character now, given we knew nothing of his beginning before the prequel trilogy was made.

"Which shows that one of the MAIN reasons that Anakin turned to the dark side (from what I have heard), being that he thought the power of the dark side could give him power over life & death, and he could save Padme...he turned to evil..for nothing...since one cannot change fate/destiny..and the balance of things as they are to be."

- It is not only because he wants to save Padme that he turns to the dark side. There are other leading elements that contributed to his turning. For instance, the dark side clouded his judgement, as well as he wanted power. If you pay attention to it, in nearly every scene that Anakin is in, there is a reason for his turning to the dark side.