Another leech - Manchester gig on ebay

I see someone (coleman-skip )is selling the Manchester gig on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1573&item=4736011610&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphotohosting

I see they have already been selling the Brixton DVD as well.

Another one trying to profit from generosity of others - hit them with email telling them exactly what you think!

Lostockkid

I'm beginning to think there may be only one solution to this.

And I'm giving it serious thought.

i think we should stop sharing for a while, stop those twats for a while aswell and they will get the message

Penetration_Guru wrote:

I'm beginning to think there may be only one solution to this.

And I'm giving it serious thought.

Uh oh. PG's thinking about world domination again . . . ;-)

I can understand why alot of the seeders are pissed off, but I don't think stoppping seedign is the answer. After all if the concerts are freely available who is going to pay for the things? Common sense says that if you stop seeding you are purely playing into their hands as peopel are still going to want the stuff and will only be able to get it by paying. Unfortunately alot of the problems have arisen because many people are too protective of their bootlegs to share freely, take Houston 77 for example those that have it seem to ahve joined some secret society and won't part with it until the world freezes over. If concerts like this were made freely available to everyone there would be no market for chancers to sell it on ebay. Here endith the lesson.

Two words... Fuck Off

Do you think just because people are selling bootlegs on eBay, they are downloading them from Queenzone??

There are a lot more sources aswell as QZ u know...

For example, how the fuck do you know they haven't gone to the trouble to record the concert themselves??

With modern technology these days, it isn't that hard!

Before "peer to peer" software was available, I used to expend a fortune buying bootlegs, so restricted sharing will increase the bootleg market. As simple as that.
By the way, a big thank you to all the people sharing concerts.

no there not allowed to sell on eBay - but tell the thousands of people on eBay who are selling things illegaly or against eBays rules

There's SHIT loads

Again like I said in the other section - people obviously lead sad lives if there bothered about this - and I take it - NO MATES, NO KIDS - VERY SAD

GET A LIFE

Traffic Zombie - I have mates and I have kids!

It is the element of community these leeches are helping to destroy and the buyers from ebay who are unwitting parties to it.

How can they be unwilling parties if they are buying them

No one is forcing them to - I dont' totaly condone selling these things on eBay - but I have bought stuff off there (not Queen) as this is the ony way for me to get them

No one is forcing me

So buyers can't be unwilling

sorry read it wrong

unwitting

nevets wrote:

I can understand why alot of the seeders are pissed off, but I don't think stoppping seedign is the answer. After all if the concerts are freely available who is going to pay for the things? Common sense says that if you stop seeding you are purely playing into their hands as peopel are still going to want the stuff and will only be able to get it by paying. Unfortunately alot of the problems have arisen because many people are too protective of their bootlegs to share freely, take Houston 77 for example those that have it seem to ahve joined some secret society and won't part with it until the world freezes over. If concerts like this were made freely available to everyone there would be no market for chancers to sell it on ebay. Here endith the lesson.

Totally agree with you. 100%. Stopping to seed is far from being a solution. Report those bootleggers to the eBay administration or to QP if you will - and if QP take no action, why should we? Stopping the sharing will only increase their sales. Besides that, the community is benefitting a lot from the shared bootlegs. Don't stop a good thing going because of some idiots!

To Begg: stop talking nonsense, darling! You wouldn't survive a month without requesting anything... :)

Penetration_Guru wrote:

I'm beginning to think there may be only one solution to this.

And I'm giving it serious thought.

I'm thinking about this too...
We have to make a serious thought about stopping all this. E-bay has a rule against bootlegs and unauthorized copy, so...

The most clever thing to do is to send a mail to e-bay administrators with the auction reference. They will stop it right away (I already saw this in December). In principle, the guys are very reactive. Sending a mail to QP would take ages for action (if any), and the auction would be finished before anything is done. As far as Queenzone is concerned, there is limited risk (at least regarding this issue), since it is hard to prove, from a legal point of view, that a bootleg comes from QZ (digital data can be downloaded from everywhere !).

rvd wrote:

The most clever thing to do is to send a mail to e-bay administrators with the auction reference. They will stop it right away (I already saw this in December). In principle, the guys are very reactive. Sending a mail to QP would take ages for action (if any), and the auction would be finished before anything is done. As far as Queenzone is concerned, there is limited risk (at least regarding this issue), since it is hard to prove, from a legal point of view, that a bootleg comes from QZ (digital data can be downloaded from everywhere !).

Totally agree. Why don't we do this? I think E-bay must be informed of this situation as soon as possibile.
Personally, I don't think too that QZ can be involved, or at least it would be very hard to prove!
Let's do it!
Cheers,
L.