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Well there is quite some deviation here.

I started my topic saying that we should kick out those islamic preachers who spend their time in Mosquees and in Hyde Park calling for Jihad and the Islamization of the country?

I never mentioned that all Muslims are bad. My point is that extremists are the problem and moderate are the solution. However islamic preachers in England who call for hate, crimes and other forms of Jihad are led by love but by hate. These people should be kicked out, and only them!
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DudleyFufkin wrote:
I agree, send them all back. let them live in arab countries where they belong. but people say "oh, all muslims are not bad" but we dont know which are bad and which are not. they all wear these ridicilous costumes, covering their faces, then we get hooded tops banned but they can cover thier heads. its not on.


where would you send Cat Stevens?
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Agneepath! wrote:
DudleyFufkin wrote:
I agree, send them all back. let them live in arab countries where they belong. but people say "oh, all muslims are not bad" but we dont know which are bad and which are not. they all wear these ridicilous costumes, covering their faces, then we get hooded tops banned but they can cover thier heads. its not on.


where would you send Cat Stevens?


I thought I had heard they wouldn't allow him back into the USA a while ago, or something to that affect.
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Dan Corson wrote:
Not all Islamic people are bad.
Not all Muslims are bad.
Not all Christians are good.
Not all Buddhists are good.
Not all Scientologists are crazy.
Not all gays are pedophiles.
Not all southerners are stupid.
Not all northerners are mean.
Not all straight people are homophobes.
Not all Americans are fat and lazy.
Not all Asians are smart.
Not all Africans have HIV/AIDS.

The list goes on and on... We can't judge whole groups of people based on the actions of a select few.


Agreed - Sometimes I'm not sure what scares me the most: The actual terrorist attack or the reaction of seemingly intelligent adults.
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Well, what's the first reaction of the human mind when it finds out that people are being killed by terrorists?
Fear, right?
Right.
And when you fear something, you begin to hate something.
And hate is the worst thing to do.
Hate begets hate.

And to clarify, Freddie was born in Zanzibar to Persian parents, and went to school in India before moving to England.
He was Zoroastrian, not Muslim.
HE ROCKS US STILL. Proud Supporter of the Queen Lives Compilation
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The terroristic attacks are terrible and I feel very sad about the victims.
But the terror and the terrorist are just part of our so called civilisation, no alians. The seed of terror will grow forever, in a world that (is) based mainly on injustice and double standarts. I think it is not only a question of culture or religion.
life could be magic if we break free
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Arlene R. Weiss wrote:
Agneepath! wrote:
DudleyFufkin wrote:
I agree, send them all back. let them live in arab countries where they belong. but people say "oh, all muslims are not bad" but we dont know which are bad and which are not. they all wear these ridicilous costumes, covering their faces, then we get hooded tops banned but they can cover thier heads. its not on.


where would you send Cat Stevens?


I thought I had heard they wouldn't allow him back into the USA a while ago, or something to that affect.


He was on a flight to the USA when it was discovered he was on the oh so coveted "No-Fly List", so they turned the plane around and sent him back, because he APPARENTLY has ties to terrorist organization groups.....bullshit that is. It's Bush behind this, I tell ya!
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Suigi wrote:

And when you fear something, you begin to hate something.
And hate is the worst thing to do.
Hate begets hate.


All that talk of hate puts me in mind of the Honda advert song

http://www.visit4info.com/details.cfm?adid=17332

And so that you can all sing along the words are

Here's a song for anyone
who's ever hated...
in the key of Grrr...

Can hate be good? Can hate be great?
Can hate be good? Can hate be great?
Can hate be something we don't hate?

We'd like to know... why it is so.
That certain diesels must be slow
and thwack and thrum... and pong
and hum and clatter-clat

Hate something. Change something.
Hate something, change something,
make something better-r-r-r

Ohh isn't it just bliss... when a diesel goes like this?

Hate something. Change something.
Hate something, change something,
make something better-r-r-r...
"Normally i can't dance to save my life. But as soon as I step in dog shit, I can moonwalk better than Michael Jackson."
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What sickens me about the so many people here in the States complaining about Muslim fundamentalism is that a lot of the ones who say shit about Muslims happen to be "Christian" fundamentalists. It gets on my nerves that these idiots make up all this shit on issues like abortion, homosexuality, and use of birth control when there's not one single part of the Bible where these issues are addressed, but of course they brand them as "Christian causes" even though a lot of them didn't even exist during the times of Jesuschrist.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Brandon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]... and now the "best you can offer is Mr. Jingles? HA! He's... just pathetic.[/QUOTE]
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There u go. -.-'
Can we stop this? NO.
Can we live with it? NO.

You'll always have narrowminded, stupid people. Most will use drastic measures to make their point, how sick that point even may be. They get away with it but it will get us nowhere.
We love you Mandy!
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The people like the one who started this topic are more dangerous than the actual terrorists...
So what's the world gonna be? smth like
All Muslims are terrorists.
All terrorists should be killed.
So, all Muslims should be killed.
Same goes the other way around for Christians...
What a beautiful world indeed...
There goes the message of love... Sunk in hatred and shit...
:-(
2+2=5
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all religious extremists are bonkers and dangerous no matter what religion they are.

look at the beatle burning bonfires of 1966.
the ku klux klan threatening to kill the beatles.
they claimed to be angry by John Lennon saying the beatles were more popular than jesus.
ku klux klan christians? do me a favour
they were / are racist, intolerrant, thick as shit scum

besides firstly john lennon was correct in what he said
secondly in britain most people agreed with Lennon.
thirdly it was the mad psycho christian extremists in the bible belt of the usa who kicked up a fuss over it

you cannot rationalise with an extremist sadly

my favourite lennon line was 'if i'd said television was more popular than jesus, or motor cars, i would have got away with it'

any mad extremists arguing that television ISNT more popular than jesus?
we've no ancestral halls, no haughty portraits on our walls, no family monuments at all, unless it's my cousin sheila's stupendous clevage.
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Dan Corson wrote:
Not all southerners are stupid.


Yer dang straight..:-B
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Dan Corson wrote:
Not all Islamic people are bad.
Not all Muslims are bad.
Not all Christians are good.
Not all Buddhists are good.
Not all Scientologists are crazy.
Not all gays are pedophiles.
Not all southerners are stupid.
Not all northerners are mean.
Not all straight people are homophobes.
Not all Americans are fat and lazy.
Not all Asians are smart.
Not all Africans have HIV/AIDS.

The list goes on and on... We can't judge whole groups of people based on the actions of a select few.


With the exception of the French of course !! ;)
To cast aside the fury of the battle. To turn my weary eyes for home.
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dimcyril wrote:
all religious extremists are bonkers and dangerous no matter what religion they are.

look at the beatle burning bonfires of 1966.
the ku klux klan threatening to kill the beatles.
they claimed to be angry by John Lennon saying the beatles were more popular than jesus.
ku klux klan christians? do me a favour
they were / are racist, intolerrant, thick as shit scum

besides firstly john lennon was correct in what he said
secondly in britain most people agreed with Lennon.
thirdly it was the mad psycho christian extremists in the bible belt of the usa who kicked up a fuss over it

you cannot rationalise with an extremist sadly

my favourite lennon line was 'if i'd said television was more popular than jesus, or motor cars, i would have got away with it'

any mad extremists arguing that television ISNT more popular than jesus?


Dont forget the mob who were gonna kill Ringo Starr just because they thought he was Jewish (he isnt by the way)
"Normally i can't dance to save my life. But as soon as I step in dog shit, I can moonwalk better than Michael Jackson."