Fenderek,
as it happened on many other threads in the past, after some discussion you and I always find we have very similar views! LOL I agree with everything you said in your last post, and just like you, the more I talk about it the more pessimistic I become. We see problems and flaws in the world but we can’t seem to find a solution.
Should we accept with resignation that humankind will never change and that greed and violence are inherent properties of our nature?? I hate this!!! But probably it is so. But I guess I will never stop hoping for a better future against all odds...
:-)
Let’s try to be cheerful!
Fairy
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Fenderek,
as it happened on many other threads in the past, after some discussion you and I always find we have very similar views! LOL I agree with everything you said in your last post, and just like you, the more I talk about it the more pessimistic I become. We see problems and flaws in the world but we can’t seem to find a solution.
Should we accept with resignation that humankind will never change and that greed and violence are inherent properties of our nature?? I hate this!!! But probably it is so. But I guess I will never stop hoping for a better future against all odds...
:-)
Let’s try to be cheerful!
Fairy
Fairy...please read my article on my blog from yesterday 7/11/2005..thoroughly. It addresses exactly what Brian went off about and what you and we on QZ are discussing here. It's the most recent article with the title being about Geldof and Bono at the G8 Summit.....
...But it's a political and economic analysis of what we should and should not do, in how it affects people's and other cultures views of us western nations, right..or wrong. It's just my opinions and views. I can't think of any other answers. Please read it.
http://mercurysmusings.queenzone.com/
Fenderek,
as it happened on many other threads in the past, after some discussion you and I always find we have very similar views!
It makes me think...
Usually it starts with two people saying something. One of them disagrees and states their view. The fact is- very often their view is almost exactly the smae yet they used different words and put the emphasis on different issues. There are two ways-
1. to continue explaining (what happened here- I made a statement and than in the course of conversation was stretched to explain fully what exatcly I was about)
2. To go into seperate sides and fight about... nothing...
SOMEHOW I sse the second one everywhere I look. Politics, life... even this board... People, who actually agree with the main point are arguing about not important details... Just like religions- give a god different name and you have (or had for many centuries) a war...
There are two ways-
1. to continue explaining (what happened here- I made a statement and than in the course of conversation was stretched to explain fully what exatcly I was about)
2. To go into seperate sides and fight about... nothing...
SOMEHOW I sse the second one everywhere I look. Politics, life... even this board... People, who actually agree with the main point are arguing about not important details... Just like religions- give a god different name and you have (or had for many centuries) a war...
So true! Probably we could avoid 90% of all the fights if we applied the first one!
Thanks Arlene I'll read your article. Sorry, I just checked the forum after a few days.
Fairy
We have a right to protect ourselves and we must do it. We also must find the people that are guilty and put them on trial.
But to get rid of terrorism in the long-term we have to understand why it happens and fight those causes. There will always be idiots and psycopaths, there is nothing we can do about that. However, what we can do is that we can understand what it is that makes normal people like you and me turn to them. What makes normal people partake in acts of terrorism and violence, perhaps even blow themselves to pieces. Normal people do these things under the influence of others.
If you look at places were terrorism and guerrilla-groups are common these are places that are very poor, war-ridden and insecure. people who live in such areas are desperate and if someone says to them that they can cahnge this or that it is someone elses fault they will listen to them. If these people were not hungry, scared, desperate or angry for revenge for relatives or friends that have been killed earlier they probably wouldnt listen to what the bad "leaders" say to them.
IMO the best thing we can do to fight terrorism on a long-term basis is to fight poverty, hunger and conflicts.
But to get rid of terrorism in the long-term we have to understand why it happens and fight those causes. There will always be idiots and psycopaths, there is nothing we can do about that. However, what we can do is that we can understand what it is that makes normal people like you and me turn to them. What makes normal people partake in acts of terrorism and violence, perhaps even blow themselves to pieces. Normal people do these things under the influence of others.
If you look at places were terrorism and guerrilla-groups are common these are places that are very poor, war-ridden and insecure. people who live in such areas are desperate and if someone says to them that they can cahnge this or that it is someone elses fault they will listen to them. If these people were not hungry, scared, desperate or angry for revenge for relatives or friends that have been killed earlier they probably wouldnt listen to what the bad "leaders" say to them.
IMO the best thing we can do to fight terrorism on a long-term basis is to fight poverty, hunger and conflicts.
its not wrong, its just being done in the wrong gung ho way...which REAAAAALLY doesn help sometimes :(
Kev x
Kev x
The war is over!!!!!
If you don't watch 'The Daily Show', you wouldn't know that. Start celebrating in the streets. The war is over.
oh, btw, it is now known as 'the struggle against extremism'. (quoting Rumsfield)
If you don't watch 'The Daily Show', you wouldn't know that. Start celebrating in the streets. The war is over.
oh, btw, it is now known as 'the struggle against extremism'. (quoting Rumsfield)
lol seriously??! lol that is rather amusing hehe
Kev x
Kev x
People, I do have to agree to give peace a chance, but in the present situation, and with the present "masters of war" still in power, that would be slightly impossible...
I don't know what we're supposed to do, I just want to say that since men (I don't wanna be sexist here...) have moved the balance of power to their (almost) absolute interest, wars keep coming and coming, and there is always a conflict (weather small or big - born from a former small conflict)...
The only thing I want to say, is that if the society finds a way to secure balance (and not only between men and women, but with everything that has to do with personal and public life), there will be no chance for peace. The way we all want to go to extremes takes us to extreme measures as wars or natural killers (floods, weird weather, etc.), and realise that when we piss Mother Nature, she will strike back 100000 times worse (or even more).
With action comes reaction. We have to learn to take responsibility of the action and think what it might bring to our children and our children's children...
The End.
kiss kiss,
Sonia
I don't know what we're supposed to do, I just want to say that since men (I don't wanna be sexist here...) have moved the balance of power to their (almost) absolute interest, wars keep coming and coming, and there is always a conflict (weather small or big - born from a former small conflict)...
The only thing I want to say, is that if the society finds a way to secure balance (and not only between men and women, but with everything that has to do with personal and public life), there will be no chance for peace. The way we all want to go to extremes takes us to extreme measures as wars or natural killers (floods, weird weather, etc.), and realise that when we piss Mother Nature, she will strike back 100000 times worse (or even more).
With action comes reaction. We have to learn to take responsibility of the action and think what it might bring to our children and our children's children...
The End.
kiss kiss,
Sonia