Stripping, do you think it is immoral?
I was watching something recently and there was a scene with strippers, and that question corssed me mind. I'm not exactly sure it is but it isn't? Who knows, so I ask what do you guys think?
This isn't meant to relate to any of the other wierd sexual topics posted by that spammer. I'm interested to know your opinnions on this.
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First, define immoral, then work backwards. Do you consider hardcore pornography immoral? Soft-core porn? Pin-ups? Sex outside of marriage?
Interesting question, though. I think it's connected to how you define something as immoral.
Interesting question, though. I think it's connected to how you define something as immoral.
Is it like saying kinky sex is immoral? Cause sex itself is not immoral, most of the time. It happens, cause we're human. Some people just do it different.
I guess it really depends on how you strip. You can do in a beautiful sense, or a dirty one.
Course, I doubt saints or 'moral' people would condone stripping. In that view. Yes, it probably is immoral. But who here is a saint? ;)
I guess it really depends on how you strip. You can do in a beautiful sense, or a dirty one.
Course, I doubt saints or 'moral' people would condone stripping. In that view. Yes, it probably is immoral. But who here is a saint? ;)
Both of you have good points. Really it does depend on ones definition of immoral. Most people seem to right off view it as a bad thing. When really, well some people just live their lives differently than others, and have different view point of what is moral and not. So I guess really it just depends on each individual.
Its interesting to see what people think about these sort of things, eveyone looks at it differently.
Funny now I remember my friend and planned to move to NY and become strippers because it appeared to pay well. Lets just say that fell through...lol I don't think I could ever do something like that. To be completely honest a part of me would want to and another part of me sees it as being not so good, or immoral if you will. I would be ashamed to tell anyone that. Mainly because when most people today, think stripper..they think whore so to speak.
Nothing against people who are in that profession its just the stereotype of this day and age.
Its interesting to see what people think about these sort of things, eveyone looks at it differently.
Funny now I remember my friend and planned to move to NY and become strippers because it appeared to pay well. Lets just say that fell through...lol I don't think I could ever do something like that. To be completely honest a part of me would want to and another part of me sees it as being not so good, or immoral if you will. I would be ashamed to tell anyone that. Mainly because when most people today, think stripper..they think whore so to speak.
Nothing against people who are in that profession its just the stereotype of this day and age.
Is it like saying kinky sex is immoral? Cause sex itself is not immoral, most of the time. It happens, cause we're human. Some people just do it different.
I guess it really depends on how you strip. You can do in a beautiful sense, or a dirty one.
i guess that 'inside of a relationship' anything a 'consenting couple' do is not immoral....but outside of it then things alter.
society tells us what's immoral. in Middle-east countries any such behaviour is deemed immoral - and some extreme cases end up in jail/execution - for things we in the west may view 'normal'.
different strokes for different folks eh?
maybe the question should be..whos more immoral, the person who strips as a way of living, or the ones who go and get entertained by these people.
i guess if a person resect themselves, and can make a living legally,than let the power be with them.
i guess if a person resect themselves, and can make a living legally,than let the power be with them.
Brenski.....very good responce and excellent points
I don't know if it's immoral, but I don't like the idea of a person selling his/her body. It shouldn't happen, but it does, because today everything is controlled by money. I don't blame the people who do it, I blame the people who create the opportunities. A poor oprhan 19 years old girl who has to work as a stripper to support herself financially is not to blame.
Shows like MTV's "I Bet You Will" are simply disgusting, not because the people participating eat cockroaches, but because before any such act an auction is conducted between college students, to see who will agree to do something for the lowest amount of money. We're talking about a young woman who wore only bikini, spilt paint over her breasts and then used them to create "paintings", which were then sold to the audience.
The phrase "How low can you go?" seems mightily appropriate. I've never been to a place which has stripping, I'm only 17. But what I see in the movies or in pictures in the newspapers is a slutty and dirty behaviour. If a woman chooses to strip from her own free will, meaning not because she couldn't get any other job, let it be. But it's the opposite cases which raise the problem of immorality, at least as far as I'm concerned.
Shows like MTV's "I Bet You Will" are simply disgusting, not because the people participating eat cockroaches, but because before any such act an auction is conducted between college students, to see who will agree to do something for the lowest amount of money. We're talking about a young woman who wore only bikini, spilt paint over her breasts and then used them to create "paintings", which were then sold to the audience.
The phrase "How low can you go?" seems mightily appropriate. I've never been to a place which has stripping, I'm only 17. But what I see in the movies or in pictures in the newspapers is a slutty and dirty behaviour. If a woman chooses to strip from her own free will, meaning not because she couldn't get any other job, let it be. But it's the opposite cases which raise the problem of immorality, at least as far as I'm concerned.
I have to agree with Guy... I don't like the idea of a person selling his/her body either.
My friends surprised me with a lap-dance on my last year’s birthday party. Well, we laughed a lot and I'll never forget it. It was a pretty girl and she sat completely naked at my lap... But she couldn't turn me on at all, just because of the thought that she does such low things to raise money.
My friends surprised me with a lap-dance on my last year’s birthday party. Well, we laughed a lot and I'll never forget it. It was a pretty girl and she sat completely naked at my lap... But she couldn't turn me on at all, just because of the thought that she does such low things to raise money.
guy...your first paragraph was also a good point, i guess its like drugs, if a person is hooked on them, are they really doing anything immoral??
possibly illegal but not really immoral, now the person who sells that person those drugs are doing something immoral, due to the fact that they are preying on the persons weakness and dependency.
possibly illegal but not really immoral, now the person who sells that person those drugs are doing something immoral, due to the fact that they are preying on the persons weakness and dependency.
If someone takes off clothes- someone else pays for it. If someone was to be immoral- that would be the payer... Anyway- don't think it's immoral... If ppl were stripping instead of stealing or killing- the world would be better, don't you think? Kinky sex, sex outside marriage, porn- individual thing. If you can't imagine doing that- great, that's you. But it's not us (me, you) to judge someone because he's living differently... We don't need the "my cock's bigger than yours / my morality's better than yours" bullshit... Someone is a stripper- let her (him) be and it's not you to judge... If someone's really after morality and religion than believes in God who judges... Why are we trying to put ourselfs in his position than? Isn't this one of the sins?
guy...your first paragraph was also a good point, i guess its like drugs, if a person is hooked on them, are they really doing anything immoral??
possibly illegal but not really immoral, now the person who sells that person those drugs are doing something immoral, due to the fact that they are preying on the persons weakness and dependency.
Exactly. Stripping, like consuming drugs, doesn't hurt others. Dealing drugs, however, does hurt other people, and stripping club owners shouldn't take adventage of young women who desperately need money and will do anything to get it.
That's my point - the people who "run" and motivate this industry are to blame.
erm....no?......obviously
Kev x
Kev x
The definition of IMMORALITY has it's extreme sides...
From the perverts of NAMBLA who think there's nothing wrong with adults having sex with children, to the ultra conservatives wackos who wish to turn every single TV channel into PAX.
From the perverts of NAMBLA who think there's nothing wrong with adults having sex with children, to the ultra conservatives wackos who wish to turn every single TV channel into PAX.
Exactly. Stripping, like consuming drugs, doesn't hurt others. Dealing drugs, however, does hurt other people.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Consuming drugs is just about as bad as selling them. By buying drugs not only you're destroying your own body, but you're giving profits to an illegal industry that is only going to become more rich and powerful. I'm Colombian, and every year hundreds (and possibly thousands) of people die there fighting the war against drug cartels. It's a war that has no end as long as there a bunch of fuckin' idiots willing to buy drugs. I'm all in favor of giving drug consumers as many years in jail as the average drug dealer.