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Mr.Jingles wrote:
From the perverts of NAMBLA who think there's nothing wrong with adults having sex with children, to the ultra conservatives wackos who wish to turn every single TV channel into PAX.

I thought NAMBLA was National Accosiation of Marlon Brando Look Alikes :)
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=696327 Wanna trade? Here's my list...
Fenderek wrote:
I thought NAMBLA was National Accosiation of Marlon Brando Look Alikes :)


nicely brought back full circle Fenderek. Immorality is the theme and there must be no more visual exponent of the word than Last Tango in Paris

i always choose butter instead of margarine these days ;-)
go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
Fenderek wrote:
Mr.Jingles wrote:
From the perverts of NAMBLA who think there's nothing wrong with adults having sex with children, to the ultra conservatives wackos who wish to turn every single TV channel into PAX.

I thought NAMBLA was National Accosiation of Marlon Brando Look Alikes :)


There's a reason why Marlon Brando and Michael Jackson were such good pals.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Brandon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]... and now the "best you can offer is Mr. Jingles? HA! He's... just pathetic.[/QUOTE]
The Mir@cle wrote:
I have to agree with Guy... I don't like the idea of a person selling his/her body either.

My friends surprised me with a lap-dance on my last year’s birthday party. Well, we laughed a lot and I'll never forget it. It was a pretty girl and she sat completely naked at my lap... But she couldn't turn me on at all, just because of the thought that she does such low things to raise money.

oh my...
2+2=5
Why would it be immoral? I mean it's the way we are born: naked... without clothes and/or prejudices...
So ww can say that most ancient pre-greek civilisations, lots of tribes around the world are immoral?
2+2=5
Alex Solan wrote:
There's nothing wrong with a person who sells his/her body, specially when that person lives in an unfair society that denies him/her the chance of a "normal" job.
Excellent points also by Brenski. The immoral word was invented by human being.
Who are we to decide what's immoral and what doesn't?


What kind of arguement is that? Does the fact we invented the word "rape" mean we can't judge rapists? Who are we to decide anything at all?
"You'll never find rainbows if you're looking down."  -Charlie Chaplin
Alex Solan wrote:
Guy wrote:
Alex Solan wrote:
There's nothing wrong with a person who sells his/her body, specially when that person lives in an unfair society that denies him/her the chance of a "normal" job.
Excellent points also by Brenski. The immoral word was invented by human being.
Who are we to decide what's immoral and what doesn't?


What kind of arguement is that? Does the fact we invented the word "rape" mean we can't judge rapists? Who are we to decide anything at all?


The word rape have a more accurate sense, immoral doesn't. People supports on that word to discriminate and judge people by their jobs, religion, etc. To rape it is a CRIME. That's outta discussion.
Who are you to judge a person who strips in a club? Is his/her choice.


Who are you to tell me not to judge him/her? It's not like what I say affects them in any way. And again, I didn't judge the strippers... Maybe you should read my post.
"You'll never find rainbows if you're looking down."  -Charlie Chaplin
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Why would it be immoral? I mean it's the way we are born: naked... without clothes and/or prejudices...
So ww can say that most ancient pre-greek civilisations, lots of tribes around the world are immoral?


There's a pretty big difference between basic nudity and stripping.
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I don't think stripping, nudity or pornography of any kind is immoral.

I realise there is a difference between stripping and nudity but it is all part of life, as is porn (for those who want it).
Zeni wrote:
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Why would it be immoral? I mean it's the way we are born: naked... without clothes and/or prejudices...
So ww can say that most ancient pre-greek civilisations, lots of tribes around the world are immoral?


There's a pretty big difference between basic nudity and stripping.

not really, if u think of it. ancient cultures valued sexuality. we don't. we've erased the idea of pleasure, of normality when the bases of the Christian beliefs were drawn...
2+2=5
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Zeni wrote:
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Why would it be immoral? I mean it's the way we are born: naked... without clothes and/or prejudices...
So ww can say that most ancient pre-greek civilisations, lots of tribes around the world are immoral?


There's a pretty big difference between basic nudity and stripping.

not really, if u think of it. ancient cultures valued sexuality. we don't. we've erased the idea of pleasure, of normality when the bases of the Christian beliefs were drawn...


Who's "we"?
"You'll never find rainbows if you're looking down."  -Charlie Chaplin
Guy wrote:
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Zeni wrote:
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Why would it be immoral? I mean it's the way we are born: naked... without clothes and/or prejudices...
So ww can say that most ancient pre-greek civilisations, lots of tribes around the world are immoral?


There's a pretty big difference between basic nudity and stripping.

not really, if u think of it. ancient cultures valued sexuality. we don't. we've erased the idea of pleasure, of normality when the bases of the Christian beliefs were drawn...


Who's "we"?

the race known as humans
2+2=5
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Guy wrote:
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Zeni wrote:
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Why would it be immoral? I mean it's the way we are born: naked... without clothes and/or prejudices...
So ww can say that most ancient pre-greek civilisations, lots of tribes around the world are immoral?


There's a pretty big difference between basic nudity and stripping.

not really, if u think of it. ancient cultures valued sexuality. we don't. we've erased the idea of pleasure, of normality when the bases of the Christian beliefs were drawn...


Who's "we"?

the race known as humans


I don't know about you, but I haven't erased any idea of pleasure. Did you ever stop to think each one of "us" enjoys different things? If you enjoy walking around nude, good for you, but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy it as well.
"You'll never find rainbows if you're looking down."  -Charlie Chaplin
Guy wrote:
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Guy wrote:
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Zeni wrote:
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:
Why would it be immoral? I mean it's the way we are born: naked... without clothes and/or prejudices...
So ww can say that most ancient pre-greek civilisations, lots of tribes around the world are immoral?


There's a pretty big difference between basic nudity and stripping.

not really, if u think of it. ancient cultures valued sexuality. we don't. we've erased the idea of pleasure, of normality when the bases of the Christian beliefs were drawn...


Who's "we"?

the race known as humans


I don't know about you, but I haven't erased any idea of pleasure. Did you ever stop to think each one of "us" enjoys different things? If you enjoy walking around nude, good for you, but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy it as well.


Watching Jessica Alba nude = GOOD
Watching my 93 year old great grandma nude = BAD
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Brandon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]... and now the "best you can offer is Mr. Jingles? HA! He's... just pathetic.[/QUOTE]
<font color =#CC00FF>***Marial-B*** wrote:
For me the thought of being immoral it'll be more of doing a behaviour that you know you'll be judge for that. I'll take for example Ron Jeremy. Since I saw "The Surreal Life" I realized the man is more than a porn star. He's also a human being, and his acts are more than showing his penis all over the world. The fact that made me thought more about it was that he didn't strip at all when they went to the nude resort. He said he will do it after one of his roomies did it, and it was true. He did it just after Trishelle did it. So after all, someone pointed as an "immoral" was behaving "normally" like the others


Yeah, I ended up watcing the Surreal Life and at first I had no idea that he was a porn star at all. It was not like he acted different or anything, he did not brag or talk about it much unless it was brought up. So that also could bring up the point of how you handle yourself.

I guess what it really comes down to is what you think and how you feel about yourself. If someone thinks that it is alright to strip then, to each his own I guess. That does not make it right or wrong. And it does not make people right or wrong to go and watch.

I like oranges, there will always be someone who hates oranges. As there will be people who think it is okay to strip and there are people that won't.

Personally I have never really thought about it that much to have an opinnion on stripping. Just because it is legal doesn't mean its a good or a bad thing. Really as I said, I feel that it depends on your personal opinnion.

To each his own.