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Shvili wrote:
Let’s be reasonable now people. When speaking about culture and taste in relation to modern music, you should remember where it all started-USA. Rock’n Roll Was born in US, and many legendary Groups, including Queen, where inspired by American musicians and culture in general. The sort of “America bashing” that some of the posters demonstrated is a sine of ignorance and nothing more.



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grantcdn wrote:
and to add to my comments.....they don't get it now b/c part of the US culture is fast food....and music is treated the same way.....if it doesn't look pretty on video quickly or if it is more than the three chords or rap samples....its just too much time to invest in trying to understand it....just by looking at who is big now it's easy to see....

Couldn't agree more!!! I tell friends of mine that culture, especially music here in the U.S. is "crap in, crap out". It's like the old saying "if you tell someone they are stupid long enough, they begin to beileve it." Well, the U.S. consumer has been fed crap for so long, that they accept that as being normal, and eat up any crap that comes out...as long as it's what they are used to. God forbid the public get out of it's "comfort zone" for 10 minutes and try something new or diffrent. The cultural laziness of this country is a crime...imho.
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All my friends in the US have Queen CDs... ALL of them do.

It is very popular here and influence many bands I know locally.
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PainPleasure wrote:

Anyways, if it hadn't been an error of history, all of North America would be french speaking. It's because of the stupidity of the Frenchs who couldn't foresee the future (You and I, lol)and gave New France to the British and by doing so, they new it was the end of the British empire in N-A. Stupid move because we have to endure the Americans and their imperialism. I'm a french speaking canadian and it would have been better if the US would have been french.


I mean, really, do you read your history off of a cereal box or something?
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Zeni wrote:
PainPleasure wrote:

Anyways, if it hadn't been an error of history, all of North America would be french speaking. It's because of the stupidity of the Frenchs who couldn't foresee the future (You and I, lol)and gave New France to the British and by doing so, they new it was the end of the British empire in N-A. Stupid move because we have to endure the Americans and their imperialism. I'm a french speaking canadian and it would have been better if the US would have been french.


I mean, really, do you read your history off of a cereal box or something?


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Yes Queen are better than the Beatles, brenski. I have an open mind about music. I like a lot of Beatles songs like "Let It Be", "Yesterday", "Love Me Do", and there's a lot of others too. However, I don't have any Beatles albums, because I don't think the music as a whole is that great. Where as with Queen, I have every single album and they're all fantastic (except Flash Gordon of course). Granted there are some Queen songs that aren't that great either. But as a whole there music tops the Beatles any day.
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Erin wrote:
Zeni wrote:
PainPleasure wrote:

Anyways, if it hadn't been an error of history, all of North America would be french speaking. It's because of the stupidity of the Frenchs who couldn't foresee the future (You and I, lol)and gave New France to the British and by doing so, they new it was the end of the British empire in N-A. Stupid move because we have to endure the Americans and their imperialism. I'm a french speaking canadian and it would have been better if the US would have been french.


I mean, really, do you read your history off of a cereal box or something?


Had it not been for the invasion of Captn' Crunch, we would all be vampires under the control of Count Chocula..

Zeni- My sister swears to this day that she saw an "8 foot turkey." It was as tall as the top of her Dodge Ram pickup she says.. (That wouldn't be 8 ft., but nevermind..)


Good one. I'm sorry, but I'm studying history in University. And for your information, if you don't know history, that's your problem, both of you. Before 1763, France was in possession of at least half of the North American which is the US nowadays. All the states that are near the Mississippi river were French territories. A frenchman sailed from the great lakes to the golf of Mexico during the 1600s and his name was Cavelier de la Salle. And I could go on and on. So, don't come here giving me lessons about history, especially the one about New France, which is my speciality!!! And to you know about the Lousiana purchase in 1803. Most Americans are aware about that sale and most of them also are aware that they're was a french presence in N-A before 1763, which is the Treaty of Paris. So go surf on the internet, read books and after maybe, and I say maybe, you can give me lessons.
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PainPleasure wrote:

Good one. I'm sorry, but I'm studying history in University. And for your information, if you don't know history, that's your problem, both of you.


I can only hope I have enough training in American history to match wits.


PainPleasure wrote:

Before 1763, France was in possession of at least half of the North American which is the US nowadays. All the states that are near the Mississippi river were French territories.


France was in possession of much of modern-day Canada and the Mississippi valley region. Saying they controlled half is nuts. The eastern seaboard was populated by the English, the Southwest was littered with Spanish missions and forts, and there is no way the French were ever going to conquer the Indians of the Plains. Save for Louisiana, St. Louis, and Canada, it's difficult to argue that France controlled half of the states.


PainPleasure wrote:

A frenchman sailed from the great lakes to the golf of Mexico during the 1600s and his name was Cavelier de la Salle. And I could go on and on.


And a Spaniard was the first to reach Kansas almost a century before that. So what?


PainPleasure wrote:

So, don't come here giving me lessons about history, especially the one about New France, which is my speciality!!!


But it does seem that you need to do a little more studying.


PainPleasure wrote:

And to you know about the Lousiana purchase in 1803. Most Americans are aware about that sale and most of them also are aware that they're was a french presence in N-A before 1763, which is the Treaty of Paris.


The French lost all their land east of the Mississippi River with the Treaty of 1763, while the Spanish lost Florida. Years later, after the United States had been founded, it bought the Louisiana Purchase from Napolean. As I'm sure you are aware, Napolean had designs on establishing a French empire in North America, but lost too many troops to disease in Haiti that he was forced to sell off the land to fund his European wars.

But that's not the issue.

You said earlier that America was settled by Purtians, which is not the case. Yes, New England had a large Puritan population, but that was it. Explain how many of our Founding Fathers (George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, etc) were from the South and did not have a single Puritan bone in their body?

And you said that it was an ''error in history'' that gave North America to England. Well, since you are a Francophile, I guess you have the right to call a military defeat an ''error.'' France lost the Seven-Years War and was forced to give up their claims. This was the reality of imperlialism in the eighteenth century, not an ''error.''

But I really doubt you have the patience to read all of that. You seem more content in trashing the US more than making an effort to study history.


PainPleasure wrote:

So go surf on the internet, read books and after maybe, and I say maybe, you can give me lessons.


I can guarantee you that I have read more history books than you have, and have studied this a longer time than you. I welcome intelligent discussion on this, but so far, you haven't provided any.
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zeni, you have made some well-researched, intelligent posts. Congratulations!

Just out of curiosity, what is your background, education, age, etc?
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LeroyBrown11 wrote:
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LeroyBrown11 wrote:
Because America sucks and are stupid.


Hello! I'm from the States! Am I stupid?!


I'm from America too sadly. You are one of the very few who have good taste in music.


Why thank you. ^.^
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PainPleasure wrote:
And for your information, if you don't know history, that's your problem, both of you.


Err..I wuz jus makin' a cereal joke... I'm not gonna challenge anybody when it comes ta history. I gots my edjamacation in da S.C. school system..:-B
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scott__mercury wrote:
Typical Canadian coward's wrong facts.
canada was french and thats why there cowards. Put up the white surrender flags.
America was found by Columbus and then the English settled. Americans went there own way and became the greatest nation ever on earth. Canadians like PainPleasure, grantcdn, boy of destiny, smileexpert and teleman all come on bashing Americans when they wish they were American.
Wake up! There are American Queen fans posting here. You can't say we don't get it. So stop envius canadians bashing America all the time.


OK, here's something for you to do, Scott.
Look up "War of 1812" in Google.
Tell me who won. ;)
And keep in mind that Canada was FIRST lived in by Aboriginals. And that North America was FIRST "discovered" by Leif Eriksson in the year 1000.
SUCK IT, COLUMBUS! You got beat by almost 500 years, and by a friggin' lost Viking!

Getting back on topic (I'm sick and tired of debating about Canada-US relations. We're stuck with each other, hokai?)

We Canadians share the American penchant for crap music, too.
And I can honestly say that what passes for music nowadays is repetitive, stale, or just plain obnoxious.
Who in their right mind is going to go see Hilary Duff or Britney Spears 30 - heck, even 15 - years from now?
Or any of these rap artists?

Maybe when Freddie's 60th birthday rolls around next year, we should try to get as many people into Queen as people. Y'know, pass along a few MP3s to your friends, blast an album from your car , stuff like that.
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