Taylor vs Bonham

Sebastian wrote:

Exactly, I don't know why most people say things like "Roger was the best drummer because he sang and composed". It's, as somebody else pointed out, as ridiculous as saying that he's the best because of his looks.

If we're comparing Roger and Bonzo as drummers, what matters is how well they drum, it doesn't matter who composed, produced, sang or played the guitar better. And, as far as that's concerned, John Bonham wins by light years.
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...and Keith Moon beats em both

mercuryqueen wrote:

Well could Bonham sing as high as Taylor? I think not. This is such a obvious answer... and you know what the response will be. You are on a Queen message board. Its gonna be Taylor. Go to a Zepplin Message board if you want Bonham to win. Bonham kicked ass, but Taylor wins by a country mile.

So, it's because we're at Queen forum, we're not allowed to be objective music fans? And besides, I thought this was a topic about drumming, not lyric writing or vocal abilities.

the_hero wrote:

On the other hand, I don't believe Led Zeppelin would go along with the 80s style, but we'll never know.

Look at Carouselambra from In Through The Out Door. That's a possible direction may have taken in the 80s. I love that track so much! It totally showcases the brilliance of Zeppelin, especially that of John Paul Jones.

FightFromTheInside wrote:

I used to have a bootleg of Brian and Roger doing Rock and Roll and Roger nails the drum part at the end. So Roger can do some Zep, but then again who cant do a lot of Zep.

I can play the entire Zeppelin catalogue on guitar, and have had Jimmy Page's style down pat since I was 17. So does that make me one of the greatest guitarists of all time? Never. Page receives that kind of recognition because he was in one of the most successful and most influential rock bands of all time. There are thousands of bass players within the worlds of rock, progressive rock, and jazz who can play circles around Page. Once you really look at who else is out there, you'll come to see he wasn't that great of a player. Page's strongest points were his creativity and orchestration.

lmj wrote:

I think we have to mention Neil Peart from Rush.
What do you think about him?

Simply put, Neil Peart is a technical master of the drums, and for that alone he will be forever recognized as one of rock's foremost drummers. Nobody can construct a drum solo like Peart, and nobody else has shown such ability to make a song attain its maximum quality by adding just the right percussion bits in the right places. However, what he lacks is spontaneity. Every Rush concert on a tour is the exact same thing. That's my only criticism for that band. Well, that, and the fact that they use backing tracks, but that's another topic! But they're still amazing to see live, if you're seeing them once or twice on a tour.

1)Bonham from Led Zeppein
2)Keith Moon from Who
3)Ian Paice from Deep Purple
4)Bill Bruford the best prog rock drummer
5)Roger Taylor

You always wanna say Roger but in reality he isn't. And he'd admit it. Bonham is just amazing. But your right, I don't think any other drummer I've ever seen can sing as well as Roger whilst drumming a fast rock song.

As with almost any skill, you reach a certain point where you can't really say in cold fact who is better than the other. It comes down to personal taste, and in this case, songwriting. You could be an insane guitar player, but if the song you wrote is Mary Had A Little Lamb... etc.

gramlyn97 wrote:

4)Bill Bruford the best prog rock drummer

Glad to see Bruford mentioned. Another genius. He was essentially a jazz drummer in a rock band. In fact, he initially thought Yes was a jazz band!

osmun wrote:

What are your thoughts on these two drummers? Which one is better? Im positive its an eazy choice, john bonham wins by miles. He is only known for Moby Dick, but he has the best bass drum control of any drummer ever? He is faster and more creative i think. And his style is so unique that noone can ever copy. This is completely without bias, its just the truth.

Roger has confessed many times his being indebted to Bonzo, but personally I think it's like asking me who's the better between Leonardo and Michelangelo.

3* taylorgaga (Begg) wrote:

yeh i do listen to more than Queen, i just dont hear teh otehr band members names spring up as nearly as much as Queens, someone mentions Queen around here and you hear all the bands names, any other band u only hear 1 name which tends to be the lead singer. e.g.

U2-most people just say Bono, although i know Bono and The Edge etc etc

Wow. Your delusional. Honestly, outside of Queen fans and Q magazine readers no one knows John Deacon. Some don't even know Roger Taylor (shock horror).

Soooo tough...

to be honest...Bonham had a more consistent style....and he had a fantastic drum sound....I like a really heavy hit you in the chest drum sound and he had it.......if Roger didn't keep changing his drum sounds and going a bit techno....he'd have a real shot at this...sometimes he got a fantastic drum sound for example White Man (one of the best drum sounds ever put on record)...sometimes they sounded just weak...like in Hot Space...when talking about great drummers I think you've always got to add Cozy Powell and Neal Peart in there as well....Eric Singer is quite good as well (and to think Brian has played with three of the best....) Roger and John made an amazing rhythm section....Roger can do a lot by feel which is why he sounds incredible live while you're often wanting more in the studio

RainMustFall2 wrote:

As with almost any skill, you reach a certain point where you can't really say in cold fact who is better than the other. It comes down to personal taste, and in this case, songwriting. You could be an insane guitar player, but if the song you wrote is Mary Had A Little Lamb... etc.

leave SRV alone

Grantcdn wrote:

Roger and John made an amazing rhythm section....

They did, but they weren't tight *together*, as much as they were great individual musicians in their own right. As a team, Deacon/Taylor were nothing compared to John Paul Jones and John Bonham. Just listen to the version of Whole Lotta Love from the Song Remains The Same soundtrack.

Taylor.


Bonham was technically better... but Roger had an enormous creativity and was very very versatile.

John Bonham had this amazing skill that many classic rock junkies would label as one of the best. And to label him as one of the best drummers is nothing short of the truth, for he truly was a great one. However, I feel that Roger was and probably still is an awesome drummer that was overlooked and underrated during his time with Queen. So to put a long story short...I don't know. ;)
Cheers

MaTiaSMaY wrote:

Taylor.

Bonham was technically better... but Roger had an enormous creativity and was very very versatile.

You think Taylor was more creative than Bonham? If you said that anywhere but at a Queen forum, you would be totally flamed for that. After listening to 150 Zeppelin concerts and 250 Queen concerts, there is no doubt that Bonham was the far more creative and spontaneous drummer than Taylor.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

MaTiaSMaY wrote:

Taylor.

Bonham was technically better... but Roger had an enormous creativity and was very very versatile.

You think Taylor was more creative than Bonham? If you said that anywhere but at a Queen forum, you would be totally flamed for that. After listening to 150 Zeppelin concerts and 250 Queen concerts, there is no doubt that Bonham was the far more creative and spontaneous drummer than Taylor.

Did I say that Roger was more creative than Bonzo?