No he is not crazy. Simply is he irresolute, as he has always been, particularly about is being torn first between being an astronomer and being a rock musician, then between family life and being permanent adored on tour, and finally between his will not to step down from public life and the fear to disappoint his fans with a new frontman.
The recent thing with king mercury showed that he takes comments too much at heart.
He is very sensitive, and even if I don't agree with what he has done with pr and rog, I love his being so complicated and how it all comes out in his songs. that's his trademark, despite freddie says "come on brian, that's all!"
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Are you people crazy? Can't you see that mike hunt, tiffmoab, scott__mercury (with the two underscores) are the same person? None ever use caps, they spew the same rhetoric...I can't think of a thrid point but I'm pretty positive they're the same person.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]mr. sir, yes queen were a supergroup. what's your point?[/QUOTE]
My point is that you have now contradicted your previous post.
[QUOTE]and no brian is no jimi h. please even brian would say that. what jimi did by the age of 27 brian couldn't dream of doing in a 100 years. again your trying to change history, brian didn't even get started until he was in his mid twenties, meanwhile jimi was already a superstar by that age. YOUR AGE IS SHOWING MY FRIEND. hendrix is rated number 1 from just about every guitar player, and every list i'v ever seen. Brian is rated usually anywhere from 10 to 25th at best. hendrix, clapton, beck, among others, than you should mention brian.[/QUOTE]
If we rated every artist based on what the general public felt about them, Britney Spears and Shania Twain would be the greatest female voices ever known to music. Ella Fitzgerald is the greatest female voice I've ever heard. She'll never make her way onto the average "best singers" list because she wasn't a pop singer. Few who have actually heard her sing could deny that the control she had over her voice is unmatched by most. Pop sells; jazz doesn't. It has nothing to do with who has talent and who doesn't. If there was a list musicians rated purely on talent, there would be very few rock and pop musicians on there. For every talented rock or pop musician in the limelight, there are a dozen underground or jazz musicians who are exponentially better.
Since when has commercial opinion equated to talent or musical knowledge? There are different criteria for any lists rating musicians: technical ability, creativity, influence on their genre, influence on music as a whole, etc etc. Much of this is all about one's tastes, and how music influences them personally. You can't use lists and public opinions to be objective proof of the qualities of a musician. It's so much deeper than that. The fact that you tried to do this only shows how credible your words are, or rather, *aren't*.
[QUOTE]a computer geek like yourself could never understand that.[/QUOTE]
Sure, I'm showing my age, and you're showing your immaturity by labelling me as a computer geek before knowing anything about me. Normally one would expect more from someone of *your* age.
[QUOTE]Let me challenge you. What is more original from a rock band? typical rock songs like "tie your mother down" "keep yourself alive" "son and daughter" or freddie songs like "bo rap" somebody to love" "killer queen" "march of the black queen"[/QUOTE]
Funny how you omitted songs like Procession, White Queen, and It's Late. I find these songs to be dripping with originality. It's all about what one sees originality to be. It differs from person to person, because we all hear music in different ways. That's why music is an art form, and not a science. It is to be interpreted according to your tastes.
But I do see the point you're trying to make, and overall yes, I agree that Freddie was the more original songwriter - but Queen would not have sounded half as good without Brian. There was nothing special about Jimmy Page's *sound*. There are hundreds of guitarists, past and present (mostly past) who sound just like him. I can't name one other guitarist out there who has Brian's tone and style. Can you? While Mercury is overall a better songwriter, I find Brian to be a much better lyricist.
My point is that you have now contradicted your previous post.
[QUOTE]and no brian is no jimi h. please even brian would say that. what jimi did by the age of 27 brian couldn't dream of doing in a 100 years. again your trying to change history, brian didn't even get started until he was in his mid twenties, meanwhile jimi was already a superstar by that age. YOUR AGE IS SHOWING MY FRIEND. hendrix is rated number 1 from just about every guitar player, and every list i'v ever seen. Brian is rated usually anywhere from 10 to 25th at best. hendrix, clapton, beck, among others, than you should mention brian.[/QUOTE]
If we rated every artist based on what the general public felt about them, Britney Spears and Shania Twain would be the greatest female voices ever known to music. Ella Fitzgerald is the greatest female voice I've ever heard. She'll never make her way onto the average "best singers" list because she wasn't a pop singer. Few who have actually heard her sing could deny that the control she had over her voice is unmatched by most. Pop sells; jazz doesn't. It has nothing to do with who has talent and who doesn't. If there was a list musicians rated purely on talent, there would be very few rock and pop musicians on there. For every talented rock or pop musician in the limelight, there are a dozen underground or jazz musicians who are exponentially better.
Since when has commercial opinion equated to talent or musical knowledge? There are different criteria for any lists rating musicians: technical ability, creativity, influence on their genre, influence on music as a whole, etc etc. Much of this is all about one's tastes, and how music influences them personally. You can't use lists and public opinions to be objective proof of the qualities of a musician. It's so much deeper than that. The fact that you tried to do this only shows how credible your words are, or rather, *aren't*.
[QUOTE]a computer geek like yourself could never understand that.[/QUOTE]
Sure, I'm showing my age, and you're showing your immaturity by labelling me as a computer geek before knowing anything about me. Normally one would expect more from someone of *your* age.
[QUOTE]Let me challenge you. What is more original from a rock band? typical rock songs like "tie your mother down" "keep yourself alive" "son and daughter" or freddie songs like "bo rap" somebody to love" "killer queen" "march of the black queen"[/QUOTE]
Funny how you omitted songs like Procession, White Queen, and It's Late. I find these songs to be dripping with originality. It's all about what one sees originality to be. It differs from person to person, because we all hear music in different ways. That's why music is an art form, and not a science. It is to be interpreted according to your tastes.
But I do see the point you're trying to make, and overall yes, I agree that Freddie was the more original songwriter - but Queen would not have sounded half as good without Brian. There was nothing special about Jimmy Page's *sound*. There are hundreds of guitarists, past and present (mostly past) who sound just like him. I can't name one other guitarist out there who has Brian's tone and style. Can you? While Mercury is overall a better songwriter, I find Brian to be a much better lyricist.
just wanted to comment one more time on Mr. Sir's words before i officially retire from queenzone. Ok, i'll admit most of what i said was to piss you and the other's off, I can't argue about brian's originality or songwriting ability. I personally would put him above majority of guitar players in rock history, outside of "hendrix" and "clapton." I think he's light years ahead of "slash" and also is slightly better than "page." Mr. May was obviously very important to the queen sound, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get their ears checked. Most of what i'v been saying i still believe, fred was the most original songwriter in queen, he brought new and exciting ideas to "may" and "talyor" who basically just followed freds lead. A better lrycist? I personally think both are brilliant in that category, but i agree with you, brian might have the slight edge on that one. In the end the "QUEEN" SOUND WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED FOR FREDDIE AND BRIANS BRILLIANCE
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]just wanted to comment one more time on Mr. Sir's words before i officially retire from queenzone. Ok, i'll admit most of what i said was to piss you and the other's off[/QUOTE]
You failed miserably. Thanks for trying.
[QUOTE]I can't argue about brian's originality or songwriting ability. I personally would put him above majority of guitar players in rock history, outside of "hendrix" and "clapton." I think he's light years ahead of "slash" and also is slightly better than "page." Mr. May was obviously very important to the queen sound, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get their ears checked. Most of what i'v been saying i still believe, fred was the most original songwriter in queen, he brought new and exciting ideas to "may" and "talyor" who basically just followed freds lead. A better lrycist? I personally think both are brilliant in that category, but i agree with you, brian might have the slight edge on that one. In the end the "QUEEN" SOUND WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED FOR FREDDIE AND BRIANS BRILLIANCE[/QUOTE]
Glad we reached some kind of consensus.
You failed miserably. Thanks for trying.
[QUOTE]I can't argue about brian's originality or songwriting ability. I personally would put him above majority of guitar players in rock history, outside of "hendrix" and "clapton." I think he's light years ahead of "slash" and also is slightly better than "page." Mr. May was obviously very important to the queen sound, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get their ears checked. Most of what i'v been saying i still believe, fred was the most original songwriter in queen, he brought new and exciting ideas to "may" and "talyor" who basically just followed freds lead. A better lrycist? I personally think both are brilliant in that category, but i agree with you, brian might have the slight edge on that one. In the end the "QUEEN" SOUND WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED FOR FREDDIE AND BRIANS BRILLIANCE[/QUOTE]
Glad we reached some kind of consensus.
Man- this guy has some serious emotional problems... He still couldn't resist and sent me an email... Pathetic...
Getting back to the original post....you might want to check this out on queeble.
The original posters on this thread are not alone it seems.
www.queeble.com/saysorrybri1.html
The original posters on this thread are not alone it seems.
www.queeble.com/saysorrybri1.html
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I see brian and even my beloved freddie as spoiled rich brats, people who have so many problems, too bad the press gives you a hard time, but i thought that was your choice to be in that business. Why don't i try walking in brians shoes? someone has the nerve to say that. Let brian walk in my shoes, let him get a dose of reality, to work and if you get laid off your on the street. Does poor little brian need to worry about such things. forget it, i can't talk to a bunch of ass kisser's.[/QUOTE]
Lol, you are aware that you sound totally bitter and envious, aren't you?
Fred and Bri spoiled rich brats??? Maybe, but I don't recall them being born that way, they had to work bloody hard to get where they are now. In the beginnings they had nothing, and achieved everything. I really REALLY doubt they had the magic wand, so what's actually your point here?? Yes, now they (Brian) have money, but they sure as hell earned it so why not spending it??? So don't give us this bullshit about spoiled stars. And money really isn't everything, no matter what some people think.
Concerning your statement about Brian going down with his creating since Freddie died - well it's perfectly natural that it seems this way because Queen was their most successful project. Even Freddie's solo albums were a disappointment when compared to Queen albums. But nevertheless, Brian is still great musician, very active, there are not many others of their age that still work, make new albums and tour. So down I bow to him, he's one hell of a musician, and seemes like a real gentleman and totally ok person (and we know it is very hard to stay that way in a showbiz) . So if you or anyone else are gonna say I kiss his ass because I think this way - so be it, I don't give a damn!!!
Cheers!!
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Just read all posts (Yes, I know I must be a masochist to do this, damn..) and this part was especially amusing:
"just wanted to comment one more time on Mr. Sir's words before i officially retire from queenzone. Ok, i'll admit most of what i said was to piss you and the other's off"
And you still claim you're about 40?? Man, for your own health I hope you're joking. In your posts you constantly claim how old and smart you are, but still you do this kind of shit just to piss us "kids" with no brain off???? Lol, if this is maturity, I think we should all be afraid of getting to your age.
Lol, you are aware that you sound totally bitter and envious, aren't you?
Fred and Bri spoiled rich brats??? Maybe, but I don't recall them being born that way, they had to work bloody hard to get where they are now. In the beginnings they had nothing, and achieved everything. I really REALLY doubt they had the magic wand, so what's actually your point here?? Yes, now they (Brian) have money, but they sure as hell earned it so why not spending it??? So don't give us this bullshit about spoiled stars. And money really isn't everything, no matter what some people think.
Concerning your statement about Brian going down with his creating since Freddie died - well it's perfectly natural that it seems this way because Queen was their most successful project. Even Freddie's solo albums were a disappointment when compared to Queen albums. But nevertheless, Brian is still great musician, very active, there are not many others of their age that still work, make new albums and tour. So down I bow to him, he's one hell of a musician, and seemes like a real gentleman and totally ok person (and we know it is very hard to stay that way in a showbiz) . So if you or anyone else are gonna say I kiss his ass because I think this way - so be it, I don't give a damn!!!
Cheers!!
Edit:
Just read all posts (Yes, I know I must be a masochist to do this, damn..) and this part was especially amusing:
"just wanted to comment one more time on Mr. Sir's words before i officially retire from queenzone. Ok, i'll admit most of what i said was to piss you and the other's off"
And you still claim you're about 40?? Man, for your own health I hope you're joking. In your posts you constantly claim how old and smart you are, but still you do this kind of shit just to piss us "kids" with no brain off???? Lol, if this is maturity, I think we should all be afraid of getting to your age.
Geez- the man is gone. the whole board benefits from it- what's the point digging out old and stupid thread?
Easy... I didn't dig it up, someone else did, obviously cause I saw there were new posts. Didn't post anything till now, and didn't even read all posts, just wanted to comment the first one in the thread. Can't see where's the problem. Haven't realised what has this turned into before I replied.