The only language I speak, read, and write is English. As such I admire people who attempt more than one. I once made a long and valiant attempt at Greek because my dream was to take homeopathy classes from a Greek expert named George Vithoulkas (although he spoke English as well.) I tried, and I tried, and I tried, but I couldn't do it. I was sooooooo disappointed in myself. I also signed up for Spanish lessons at a community high school adult education program, but the class was cancelled due to lack of signer-uppers. I ended up taking cake decorating instead. I was pretty good at that. You should have seen my Gone With The Wind Scarlett O'Hara doll cake. I also tried learning sign language - levels I, II, III, IV, and V. The classes were all taught by deaf teachers, and there was in each class students that ranged in skills from beginning like me to intermediate and advanced. Well, I was soon left in the dust (Another One Bites The Dust) because I was such a newbie. I could not understand what the others were signing waaaaaaaay beyond where I was in the lesson books. It was extremely frustrating. I cried and I cried and I cried when I had to finally admit defeat and give it up. Keep on trying!
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Nummer2 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry, I don't know how quoting works. I'll do it my way:
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How much more difficult would this be for you to read if it was incorrectly translated, (or worse still), written as a German "text-message?
Es scheint, dass im Laufe des Wochenendes der memership von Queenzone (immer ein gutes Ding) gewachsen ist, um einige unserer jüngeren Leser unterzubringen. (Ein noch besseres Ding). Ich finde auch die Tatsache, die 12, 13, und 15 Jahre alt in die Königin sind, ist nur für das Band gesund.
Jedoch scheint es, dass einige dieser jüngeren Leser scheitern, das zu ergreifen, ist das ein allgemeines Forum, das erwachsene Ideen ausdrückt, die in einer reiferen Mode gerichtet werden sollten.
Das ist nicht ein englischsprechender nur Ausschuss - das ist universal, welche Völker von vielem Nationsbesuch, und genießen.
Deshalb macht schlechte Grammatik, schlechter seplling, schlechter puctuation, und besonders "Text-Messaging"-Typ-Sprache, es unmöglich für diese Sprecher "nicht heimisches Englisch", um zu lesen.
Es ist deshalb HÖFLICH, das Verwenden als richtige Zeichensetzung, Grammatik und die Rechtschreibung, wie möglich, und sehr grob zu
"riteasifUdoknotcreabtthefealinsofotrredrs, andsodU".
Also, alles, was ich frage, ist, dass Sie an andere denken, (erinnern Sie sich, dass Sie im großen Spielplatz jetzt sind), und tun Sie Ihr Bestes, so wie möglich verständlich zu sein.
Sehen Sie sich auch um und sieh, ob Ihre Fragen oder Ideen vorher ausgedrückt worden sind.
Jeder wird für den sonderbaren Fehler versöhnlich sein, aber, wenn Sie auf der Schauspielerei wie kleine Kinder verharren, finden Sie bald, dass jeder beginnen wird, Sie zu ignorieren. (jämmerlich aber wahr).
Aber wenn Sie eine echte Anstrengung machen einzufügen, finden Sie, dass die meisten Menschen darin hier sehr freundlich und rücksichtsvoll sind, (und sehr häufig), sind jene nichtheimischen englischen Sprecher mehr kenntnisreich als wir englische Sprecher, so ist es sehr wichtig zu hören, was sie sagen, aber wenn sie die Frage nicht verstehen, dann können sie nie helfen.
Ich hoffe, dass Sie Ihren Aufenthalt an Queenzone genießen, und sehen, dass eine kleine Höflichkeit einen sehr langen Weg geht.
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That's a funny kind of German language! Not totally crappy, but a few words in there are simply wrong, there also are some funny expressions. Altogether is giving parts of the text a wrong meaning. The misspelled English words aren't translated, so I guess you used a translation programme? If so, I'm surprised how well it worked, though. Would you mind telling me how you did it?
As you may have detected, I'm German and I use the English language only in internet forums, so please forgive my bad language. But at least I've tried my best to be understood well.
Bye,
Nummer2[/QUOTE]
Hi Nummer2! If you want to use the quote thing...
On the line on your post that has your name and the date and the time you posted, there are three symbols.
Nummer2 Posted: 10/26/2005 6:37:01 AM (and then the three symbols.)
The first one is for if you want to go back into your entry and change what you wrote. Once you change it, click Post Message, and your newest version will appear replacing the old version. This does not duplicate your message - it edits it. No one can go in and change your original message.
I am not sure what the second symbol is for. When you click that, it brings you to a reply screen, although I don't know how that differs from "Add Replay" at the very end of the subject being discussed.
The third symbol has a quote symbol by it ("), and that is the one you click on (on THEIR symbol line) when you want to show their entry in quotes before you add your comments. It is quicker a
QUOTE:
How much more difficult would this be for you to read if it was incorrectly translated, (or worse still), written as a German "text-message?
Es scheint, dass im Laufe des Wochenendes der memership von Queenzone (immer ein gutes Ding) gewachsen ist, um einige unserer jüngeren Leser unterzubringen. (Ein noch besseres Ding). Ich finde auch die Tatsache, die 12, 13, und 15 Jahre alt in die Königin sind, ist nur für das Band gesund.
Jedoch scheint es, dass einige dieser jüngeren Leser scheitern, das zu ergreifen, ist das ein allgemeines Forum, das erwachsene Ideen ausdrückt, die in einer reiferen Mode gerichtet werden sollten.
Das ist nicht ein englischsprechender nur Ausschuss - das ist universal, welche Völker von vielem Nationsbesuch, und genießen.
Deshalb macht schlechte Grammatik, schlechter seplling, schlechter puctuation, und besonders "Text-Messaging"-Typ-Sprache, es unmöglich für diese Sprecher "nicht heimisches Englisch", um zu lesen.
Es ist deshalb HÖFLICH, das Verwenden als richtige Zeichensetzung, Grammatik und die Rechtschreibung, wie möglich, und sehr grob zu
"riteasifUdoknotcreabtthefealinsofotrredrs, andsodU".
Also, alles, was ich frage, ist, dass Sie an andere denken, (erinnern Sie sich, dass Sie im großen Spielplatz jetzt sind), und tun Sie Ihr Bestes, so wie möglich verständlich zu sein.
Sehen Sie sich auch um und sieh, ob Ihre Fragen oder Ideen vorher ausgedrückt worden sind.
Jeder wird für den sonderbaren Fehler versöhnlich sein, aber, wenn Sie auf der Schauspielerei wie kleine Kinder verharren, finden Sie bald, dass jeder beginnen wird, Sie zu ignorieren. (jämmerlich aber wahr).
Aber wenn Sie eine echte Anstrengung machen einzufügen, finden Sie, dass die meisten Menschen darin hier sehr freundlich und rücksichtsvoll sind, (und sehr häufig), sind jene nichtheimischen englischen Sprecher mehr kenntnisreich als wir englische Sprecher, so ist es sehr wichtig zu hören, was sie sagen, aber wenn sie die Frage nicht verstehen, dann können sie nie helfen.
Ich hoffe, dass Sie Ihren Aufenthalt an Queenzone genießen, und sehen, dass eine kleine Höflichkeit einen sehr langen Weg geht.
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That's a funny kind of German language! Not totally crappy, but a few words in there are simply wrong, there also are some funny expressions. Altogether is giving parts of the text a wrong meaning. The misspelled English words aren't translated, so I guess you used a translation programme? If so, I'm surprised how well it worked, though. Would you mind telling me how you did it?
As you may have detected, I'm German and I use the English language only in internet forums, so please forgive my bad language. But at least I've tried my best to be understood well.
Bye,
Nummer2[/QUOTE]
Hi Nummer2! If you want to use the quote thing...
On the line on your post that has your name and the date and the time you posted, there are three symbols.
Nummer2 Posted: 10/26/2005 6:37:01 AM (and then the three symbols.)
The first one is for if you want to go back into your entry and change what you wrote. Once you change it, click Post Message, and your newest version will appear replacing the old version. This does not duplicate your message - it edits it. No one can go in and change your original message.
I am not sure what the second symbol is for. When you click that, it brings you to a reply screen, although I don't know how that differs from "Add Replay" at the very end of the subject being discussed.
The third symbol has a quote symbol by it ("), and that is the one you click on (on THEIR symbol line) when you want to show their entry in quotes before you add your comments. It is quicker a
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]carboengine wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Nummer2 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry, I don't know how quoting works. I'll do it my way:
QUOTE:
How much more difficult would this be for you to read if it was incorrectly translated, (or worse still), written as a German "text-message?...[/QUOTE]
Hi Nummer2! If you want to use the quote thing...
... [/QUOTE]
It works!!! Hooray! Halleluja! Thanks carboengine. I don't know why I didn't get it by myself, I think I always looked for a qote button in the reply screen.
Still wondering about the good auto-translation ...
Bye,
Nummer2
QUOTE:
How much more difficult would this be for you to read if it was incorrectly translated, (or worse still), written as a German "text-message?...[/QUOTE]
Hi Nummer2! If you want to use the quote thing...
... [/QUOTE]
It works!!! Hooray! Halleluja! Thanks carboengine. I don't know why I didn't get it by myself, I think I always looked for a qote button in the reply screen.
Still wondering about the good auto-translation ...
Bye,
Nummer2
i've never posted in text talk, except for putting "u" a couple of times!
Although i do on msn, but only with my english speaking friends. i.e not the swede or the taiwan girl! lol
Although i do on msn, but only with my english speaking friends. i.e not the swede or the taiwan girl! lol
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]7drylegs+1wet1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i've never posted in text talk, except for putting "u" a couple of times!
Although i do on msn, but only with my english speaking friends. i.e not the swede or the taiwan girl! lol[/QUOTE]
Occasional cute abbreviations is "OK" in my opinion. Typing in ALL CAPS, although possibly annoying, is OK too. Neither of these appreciably spoil (within reason) the literal content of the message.
I really do not understand how some people get their panties in a bunch over the use of ALL CAPS (It must be their attempt at censorship?).
However, the repetative use of a foreign language (like "text talk") on an english language message board is rude and inconsiderate.
Although i do on msn, but only with my english speaking friends. i.e not the swede or the taiwan girl! lol[/QUOTE]
Occasional cute abbreviations is "OK" in my opinion. Typing in ALL CAPS, although possibly annoying, is OK too. Neither of these appreciably spoil (within reason) the literal content of the message.
I really do not understand how some people get their panties in a bunch over the use of ALL CAPS (It must be their attempt at censorship?).
However, the repetative use of a foreign language (like "text talk") on an english language message board is rude and inconsiderate.
Too many people are too woried about t's being crossed and i's being dotted. Several people at my work don't write english as well as they should, but I look past that. I am not so arrogant that I will ignore a good idea because it is presented in poor english.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rip Van Winkle wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Too many people are too woried about t's being crossed and i's being dotted. Several people at my work don't write english as well as they should, but I look past that. I am not so arrogant that I will ignore a good idea because it is presented in poor english.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree, and I think you are spot on.
It is not about perfection, grammar, or spelling, rather, the deliberate attempt to defy communication.
The former, I will still answer, the latter, I will ignore. I guess that is some form of "ism", and it may say more about me than the writer, but, if the author is not willing to meet me (or others) half-way - SOD 'EM!!!
I totally agree, and I think you are spot on.
It is not about perfection, grammar, or spelling, rather, the deliberate attempt to defy communication.
The former, I will still answer, the latter, I will ignore. I guess that is some form of "ism", and it may say more about me than the writer, but, if the author is not willing to meet me (or others) half-way - SOD 'EM!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rip Van Winkle wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]7drylegs+1wet1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i've never posted in text talk, except for putting "u" a couple of times!
Although i do on msn, but only with my english speaking friends. i.e not the swede or the taiwan girl! lol[/QUOTE]
However, the repetative use of a foreign language (like "text talk") on an english language message board is rude and inconsiderate.[/QUOTE]
precisely, and on some of the other forums i'm a member of, some of my friends my age have a sort of protest thing in their signature, saying how people should type out the whole damn word, and save the english language. Which i completely agree with, and i only text talk to my english friends on msn because its quicker, and i don't leave any serious bits out. (and sometimes i spell words in a whole conversation out fully, because it looks better)
Although i do on msn, but only with my english speaking friends. i.e not the swede or the taiwan girl! lol[/QUOTE]
However, the repetative use of a foreign language (like "text talk") on an english language message board is rude and inconsiderate.[/QUOTE]
precisely, and on some of the other forums i'm a member of, some of my friends my age have a sort of protest thing in their signature, saying how people should type out the whole damn word, and save the english language. Which i completely agree with, and i only text talk to my english friends on msn because its quicker, and i don't leave any serious bits out. (and sometimes i spell words in a whole conversation out fully, because it looks better)
In my opinion, the entire world should conform to the English language. Anything less than that is detrimental to society.