[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My point was that Sleevenotes DO answer the original question, and many others that are asked around here.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]> On which other songs has John played guitar (not bass) ?
Almost all of his own compositions (Best Friend being a notable exception), and ocassionally some of the other's (Staying Power, Funny How Love Is, all acoustic parts in Sheer Heart Attack album). It was rhythm or acoustic guitar of course, not the solo parts, except perhaps Misfire (the solo is very easy and he certainly could do it) and perhaps 'Who Needs You', which has always been a discussion here. Both John and Brian were capable of handling the solos so any option is possible. Maybe one of them played the short one and the other did the long...
> As John wrote i want to break free, did he play any of the guitar on the studio version, or was it brian or a mixture of both?
The solo is actually Fred Mandel at a Jupiter 8, but of course Brian played it live.
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I read an article about John Deacon on "BAss Guitar" some years ago where they claim he have manage to learn to play "Classical Gas" on classical guitar. If this is true i am positive that he is a better acoustic guitar player than Brian. Don`t get me wrong, but for what i`ve seen of Brian on acoustic, the way he picks (with his pinky) the strings, turns the guitar more difficult to play. On electric guitar he`s Brian well all know.
The solo for IWTBF is Brian on guitar. I think this was dicuscussed before, and i`m recaling an article about it (i can be wrong, though). Are there any oficial saying about the solo being played on Keyboards?
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Almost all of his own compositions (Best Friend being a notable exception), and ocassionally some of the other's (Staying Power, Funny How Love Is, all acoustic parts in Sheer Heart Attack album). It was rhythm or acoustic guitar of course, not the solo parts, except perhaps Misfire (the solo is very easy and he certainly could do it) and perhaps 'Who Needs You', which has always been a discussion here. Both John and Brian were capable of handling the solos so any option is possible. Maybe one of them played the short one and the other did the long...
> As John wrote i want to break free, did he play any of the guitar on the studio version, or was it brian or a mixture of both?
The solo is actually Fred Mandel at a Jupiter 8, but of course Brian played it live.
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I read an article about John Deacon on "BAss Guitar" some years ago where they claim he have manage to learn to play "Classical Gas" on classical guitar. If this is true i am positive that he is a better acoustic guitar player than Brian. Don`t get me wrong, but for what i`ve seen of Brian on acoustic, the way he picks (with his pinky) the strings, turns the guitar more difficult to play. On electric guitar he`s Brian well all know.
The solo for IWTBF is Brian on guitar. I think this was dicuscussed before, and i`m recaling an article about it (i can be wrong, though). Are there any oficial saying about the solo being played on Keyboards?
Take care
> If this is true i am positive that he is a better acoustic guitar player than Brian.
Then it'd explain why John played acoustic not only in his own songs (e.g. he played in Queen II even if he didn't write anything there).
> Don`t get me wrong, but for what i`ve seen of Brian on acoustic, the way he picks (with his pinky) the strings, turns the guitar more difficult to play.
You may have a point there. Brian was never too technical, though the way he played at his own particular approach made things like Love Of My Life (live), White Queen solo (studio) or The Prophet's Song intro sound very beautifully. It's a similar case as with his piano playing: far from being technically great or rhythmically "accurate", but he got the feeling right and played some stuff like nobody else (e.g. Dear Friends, All Dead).
'Who Needs You' is obviously played in a different form to Love Of My Life etc, still it's not too technical (imo) for either one of them. As a matter of fact I think that Brian and John are almost interchangeable in most of the acoustic parts (i.e. neither John wouldn't have had any problem in playing '39's strummings, nor Brian would have find difficult to record You And I's raucous bits). The only acoustic part that's clearly beyond both is of course Innuendo.
Back to 'Who Needs You', some of the reasons that make me think it's John during the solos (at least the long one) are:
- The playing is rather "cleaner" than what we usually found in Brian's acoustic work of the era (Love Of My Life live, Prophet's Song, Dreamer's Ball).
- Some fingerpicking patterns are very reminiscent of the acoustic spacers in 'Spread Your Wings' and 'In Only Seven Days'.
- I usually find the ending of the long show-off(repeating a similar reversed arpeggio three times) a possible signal of rookie soloism (which otoh could merely mean that Brian or John, whoever played it, wasn't used to that style).
Still of course I don't know for sure, the part itself doesn't sound very Brian-esque but remember he was a very versatile player able to perform solos that didn't remind you of his previous ones. And besides the quote about Classical Gas, we don't know to which extent John's style for soloing matched what we hear there. Judging by what he did as a bassist, he was definitely technical enough to play it as nicely as we find it on the record.
> The solo for IWTBF is Brian on guitar. I think this was dicuscussed before, and i`m recaling an article about it (i can be wrong, though). Are there any oficial saying about the solo being played on Keyboards?
Brian said in his soapbox on 12 March 2004 "Ah, but it was a synth!!! (on the studio version anyway ...) Live, it was me of course on the Old Lady, with a Wah Wah pedal !"
Before anybody says that I never believe Brian or that I only do whenever he fits "my" theories, more reasons making me certain that in the record it's a synth:
- Credits: Fred Mandel is credited for the 'synth solo in Break Free'. And the song hasn't got any other instrumental solo besides that (unless you count the instrumental verse of the single release which again isn't a solo but ... an instrumental verse).
- The bending patterns sound much more Jupiter 8 controlled than originated from Brian's tremolo bar.
Then it'd explain why John played acoustic not only in his own songs (e.g. he played in Queen II even if he didn't write anything there).
> Don`t get me wrong, but for what i`ve seen of Brian on acoustic, the way he picks (with his pinky) the strings, turns the guitar more difficult to play.
You may have a point there. Brian was never too technical, though the way he played at his own particular approach made things like Love Of My Life (live), White Queen solo (studio) or The Prophet's Song intro sound very beautifully. It's a similar case as with his piano playing: far from being technically great or rhythmically "accurate", but he got the feeling right and played some stuff like nobody else (e.g. Dear Friends, All Dead).
'Who Needs You' is obviously played in a different form to Love Of My Life etc, still it's not too technical (imo) for either one of them. As a matter of fact I think that Brian and John are almost interchangeable in most of the acoustic parts (i.e. neither John wouldn't have had any problem in playing '39's strummings, nor Brian would have find difficult to record You And I's raucous bits). The only acoustic part that's clearly beyond both is of course Innuendo.
Back to 'Who Needs You', some of the reasons that make me think it's John during the solos (at least the long one) are:
- The playing is rather "cleaner" than what we usually found in Brian's acoustic work of the era (Love Of My Life live, Prophet's Song, Dreamer's Ball).
- Some fingerpicking patterns are very reminiscent of the acoustic spacers in 'Spread Your Wings' and 'In Only Seven Days'.
- I usually find the ending of the long show-off(repeating a similar reversed arpeggio three times) a possible signal of rookie soloism (which otoh could merely mean that Brian or John, whoever played it, wasn't used to that style).
Still of course I don't know for sure, the part itself doesn't sound very Brian-esque but remember he was a very versatile player able to perform solos that didn't remind you of his previous ones. And besides the quote about Classical Gas, we don't know to which extent John's style for soloing matched what we hear there. Judging by what he did as a bassist, he was definitely technical enough to play it as nicely as we find it on the record.
> The solo for IWTBF is Brian on guitar. I think this was dicuscussed before, and i`m recaling an article about it (i can be wrong, though). Are there any oficial saying about the solo being played on Keyboards?
Brian said in his soapbox on 12 March 2004 "Ah, but it was a synth!!! (on the studio version anyway ...) Live, it was me of course on the Old Lady, with a Wah Wah pedal !"
Before anybody says that I never believe Brian or that I only do whenever he fits "my" theories, more reasons making me certain that in the record it's a synth:
- Credits: Fred Mandel is credited for the 'synth solo in Break Free'. And the song hasn't got any other instrumental solo besides that (unless you count the instrumental verse of the single release which again isn't a solo but ... an instrumental verse).
- The bending patterns sound much more Jupiter 8 controlled than originated from Brian's tremolo bar.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My point was that Sleevenotes DO answer the original question, and many others that are asked around here.[/QUOTE]
I'll belt up then ;)[/QUOTE]
I'd rather a number of other people belted up leaving space for the more constructive people such as yourself...
I'll belt up then ;)[/QUOTE]
I'd rather a number of other people belted up leaving space for the more constructive people such as yourself...