Pfff... too many to mention, realy.
This was not exactly one of their best shows.
Listen to the audience recording and you'll easily hear that almost every track has been 'treated' in some way.
Though I do think that the overdubs were not done in the studio but were taken from other shows.
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Yep- I was really shocked when I heard audience recording of the 27th gig. :) Well- not really shocked, but some of it sounded much worse. Teo torriatte- well, this one is another story... What a crap version that really was!
Super Live in Japan. It keeps getting worse... On Fire: Live at the Bowl, Return of the Champions and now Super Live in Japan. 'Super Live' sounds like some child made up the title. Next title: Kick Ass In The States?!?
Maybe they'll put the European open air concerts as bonus :-P or 'Long Away' from one Yokohama shows. It will never happen:-(
EDIT: Of course: Live + Overdubs = Super Live:-P
Maybe they'll put the European open air concerts as bonus :-P or 'Long Away' from one Yokohama shows. It will never happen:-(
EDIT: Of course: Live + Overdubs = Super Live:-P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME][ Wybren™ ] wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Super Live in Japan. It keeps getting worse... On Fire: Live at the Bowl, Return of the Champions and now Super Live in Japan. 'Super Live' sounds like some child made up the title. Next title: Kick Ass In The States?!?
Maybe they'll put the European open air concerts as bonus :-P or 'Long Away' from one Yokohama shows. It will never happen:-(
EDIT: Of course: Live + Overdubs = Super Live:-P[/QUOTE]
Super Live, how is that possible?
I mean, you can't be liver then live.
Maybe they'll put the European open air concerts as bonus :-P or 'Long Away' from one Yokohama shows. It will never happen:-(
EDIT: Of course: Live + Overdubs = Super Live:-P[/QUOTE]
Super Live, how is that possible?
I mean, you can't be liver then live.
Page and Plant had unledded,
Now we have super live...
Can you be diesel live?
Now we have super live...
Can you be diesel live?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jeroen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Page and Plant had unledded,
Now we have super live...
Can you be diesel live?[/QUOTE]
I think so.
Don't forget Rare Live :-P
Now we have super live...
Can you be diesel live?[/QUOTE]
I think so.
Don't forget Rare Live :-P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jeroen wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME]After hearing Teo Torriatte- that one might be removed... or overdubbed...[/QUOTE]
The tv-broadcast was already HEAVILY overdubbed!
(And not only Teo Torritatte)
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I seriously doubt it was / will be overdubbed, they will clean it up in the mix, and take out some of the errors but unless Brian and Roger and Paul have been wholed up in a studio it certainly will not be overdubbed. They may use a little trick or two to put back any drop-out on the vocal but that will be it.
Anyway you guys that birate this stuff, have you ever stood up and played live, no, well believe me it's a lot harder to get it right even if you have all the equipment and practice that they have, seriously you don't know what you're talking about if you expect a perfect show, they don't happen, Queen are just about the best at live shows in the world yet technical problems and simply an 'off night' can happen to anyone at anytime.
I gotta say unless you've got the balls to stand up and do it, you really don't know what it's like. It's a lot harder than you would ever imagine, every tiny thing you do is recorded forever.
My band finished a set the other night which we were really happy with, it was recorded at the time and only now have we discovered that someone kicked the snare mic just enough to have the stand touching another drum, so everytime I hit the snare it makes a nasty bong sound instead of the nice crips crack it made at soundcheck.
Really until you have done it, it is very hard to understand how frustrating it can be, even on a great night things don't work according to plan every time.
You would be a little more forgiving if you knew what went into it.
The tv-broadcast was already HEAVILY overdubbed!
(And not only Teo Torritatte)
[/QUOTE]
I seriously doubt it was / will be overdubbed, they will clean it up in the mix, and take out some of the errors but unless Brian and Roger and Paul have been wholed up in a studio it certainly will not be overdubbed. They may use a little trick or two to put back any drop-out on the vocal but that will be it.
Anyway you guys that birate this stuff, have you ever stood up and played live, no, well believe me it's a lot harder to get it right even if you have all the equipment and practice that they have, seriously you don't know what you're talking about if you expect a perfect show, they don't happen, Queen are just about the best at live shows in the world yet technical problems and simply an 'off night' can happen to anyone at anytime.
I gotta say unless you've got the balls to stand up and do it, you really don't know what it's like. It's a lot harder than you would ever imagine, every tiny thing you do is recorded forever.
My band finished a set the other night which we were really happy with, it was recorded at the time and only now have we discovered that someone kicked the snare mic just enough to have the stand touching another drum, so everytime I hit the snare it makes a nasty bong sound instead of the nice crips crack it made at soundcheck.
Really until you have done it, it is very hard to understand how frustrating it can be, even on a great night things don't work according to plan every time.
You would be a little more forgiving if you knew what went into it.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jeroen wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME]After hearing Teo Torriatte- that one might be removed... or overdubbed...[/QUOTE]
The tv-broadcast was already HEAVILY overdubbed!
(And not only Teo Torritatte)
[/QUOTE]
I seriously doubt it was / will be overdubbed, they will clean it up in the mix, and take out some of the errors but unless Brian and Roger and Paul have been wholed up in a studio it certainly will not be overdubbed. They may use a little trick or two to put back any drop-out on the vocal but that will be it.
=======>Dear, it IS overdubbed! Seriously, use your ears. Compare an audience recording with the tv-show; it realy is very obvious (as with ROTC). Anybody hears the difference between Brian fucking up a solo on the night and all of the sudden playing it flawless in the broadcast.
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Anyway you guys that birate this stuff, have you ever stood up and played live, no, well believe me it's a lot harder to get it right even if you have all the equipment and practice that they have, seriously you don't know what you're talking about if you expect a perfect show, they don't happen, Queen are just about the best at live shows in the world yet technical problems and simply an 'off night' can happen to anyone at anytime.
I gotta say unless you've got the balls to stand up and do it, you really don't know what it's like. It's a lot harder than you would ever imagine, every tiny thing you do is recorded forever.
=======>I don't know about the others, but I certainly did not birate this. I was not judging overdubbing - I just mentioned it. And as a matter of fact I know VERY well how hard it is. I've been on stage countless times and work as a recording musician. Cheers!
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The tv-broadcast was already HEAVILY overdubbed!
(And not only Teo Torritatte)
[/QUOTE]
I seriously doubt it was / will be overdubbed, they will clean it up in the mix, and take out some of the errors but unless Brian and Roger and Paul have been wholed up in a studio it certainly will not be overdubbed. They may use a little trick or two to put back any drop-out on the vocal but that will be it.
=======>Dear, it IS overdubbed! Seriously, use your ears. Compare an audience recording with the tv-show; it realy is very obvious (as with ROTC). Anybody hears the difference between Brian fucking up a solo on the night and all of the sudden playing it flawless in the broadcast.
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Anyway you guys that birate this stuff, have you ever stood up and played live, no, well believe me it's a lot harder to get it right even if you have all the equipment and practice that they have, seriously you don't know what you're talking about if you expect a perfect show, they don't happen, Queen are just about the best at live shows in the world yet technical problems and simply an 'off night' can happen to anyone at anytime.
I gotta say unless you've got the balls to stand up and do it, you really don't know what it's like. It's a lot harder than you would ever imagine, every tiny thing you do is recorded forever.
=======>I don't know about the others, but I certainly did not birate this. I was not judging overdubbing - I just mentioned it. And as a matter of fact I know VERY well how hard it is. I've been on stage countless times and work as a recording musician. Cheers!
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The TV broadcast was not under Queen's control, how could they overdub it?
Besides the mix will be totally different, done by a different crew, so it will sound different, but at the end of the day, Queen did not go into a studio and overdub the recording, all amends will be done via protools and diffenent feeds from other mic sources. But it will NOT be overdubed.
Besides the mix will be totally different, done by a different crew, so it will sound different, but at the end of the day, Queen did not go into a studio and overdub the recording, all amends will be done via protools and diffenent feeds from other mic sources. But it will NOT be overdubed.
Yup, you are totally right.
?? I'm not sure what you didn't disagree with then?
That was me giving up...
So you really believe they went into a studio and overdubbed it?
Don't give up I am interested in understanding why you think they did that? I am not saying it wasn't touched up, but overdubbed, no, just cleaned up in the mix with help from protools.
Don't give up I am interested in understanding why you think they did that? I am not saying it wasn't touched up, but overdubbed, no, just cleaned up in the mix with help from protools.
My ears assure me that there are certainly overdubs in there. I explicitly said that I too think they probably did NOT go into the studio to do the overdubbing. Probably the overdubs came from other shows.
You simply cannot polish up 'mistakes' in a guitar solo by just cleaning up the mix. You can only make mistakes undone by overdubbing the solo. (Overdubbing is not just going into the studio and re-record; replacing bits with bits from other shows is also called overdubbing. Like FBG on On Fire for instance, which just was taken from another show of the tour)
You simply cannot polish up 'mistakes' in a guitar solo by just cleaning up the mix. You can only make mistakes undone by overdubbing the solo. (Overdubbing is not just going into the studio and re-record; replacing bits with bits from other shows is also called overdubbing. Like FBG on On Fire for instance, which just was taken from another show of the tour)
Well I take your point however techincally overdubbing would be done by playing it again in the studio and cutting the two together, editing on the otherhand from a pre-existing source is another matter.
And as I am sure you are aware, protools and the like are indeed capable of adjusting tempo and pitch, so you can amend solos pretty well. after all if you couldn't we wouldn't be blessed with so many boy bands that can't sing.
I still say the TV edit will not have been touched up, Queen had nothing to do with it so who was there to play with it, the TV company will have edited but only for time, they will not have overdubbed anything.
And as I am sure you are aware, protools and the like are indeed capable of adjusting tempo and pitch, so you can amend solos pretty well. after all if you couldn't we wouldn't be blessed with so many boy bands that can't sing.
I still say the TV edit will not have been touched up, Queen had nothing to do with it so who was there to play with it, the TV company will have edited but only for time, they will not have overdubbed anything.