[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Mir@cle wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]great king rat 1138 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rik&Roll wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It´s funny that one of the only ´civilised´ country´s in the world that has the death-penalty has also the highest crime-rates in the world. Doesn´t seem to work that well, does it?[/QUOTE]
I think that could possibly have something to do with the fact that the country in question has inexplicably held onto a two hundred year old 'right to bear arms' which of course means that any idiot can go around with a rifle in their car, or legally get hold of a handgun if they can wait for three days! For God's sake, there's one bank in the states that gives out a free gun when someone opens a certain account! I know that if someone really wants to get their hands on a weapon they will, but at least it would be a bit more difficult if the US government had had the balls to do something about this ridiculous law 50 years ago.
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Another reason (IMO)... The American (failing) social system! Poor people hardly get any support. The differces between people are just too big.
Poverty is one of the most important "reasons" for people to commit crimes... they just don't see another way out or are just bored! So FGT.. maybe you should do something about this, instead of killing the people that are dropped in the ghetto by the politicians you love![/QUOTE]
That's bullshit. People aren't forced into crime by poverty. Some people find it as an easy way out. But you know what - a friend of mine originally from West Philadelphia (a rather dangerous neighborhood), she's an A student in school and wants to go to medical school, and she's a supporting lead in the musical. Gee, don't see her killing anyone, do you?
What about the guys who killed Matt Shepard? They were "ooooh in poverty" so they took it out on Shepard because he was gay and had money? But, oh, that wasn't their fault because they were poor?
Such bullshit. I live in a single-parent household as do most of this city. A good deal of us know how to behave like civilized human beings.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]iron eagle wrote: [/QUOTENAME]"The 30-year-old graduate student was treated at a hospital for a dislocated jaw."
i think calling for the death penalty for a dislocated jaw is a bit much dont you?
should at least be a wedgie....
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It was attempted murder! They tried to push him in front of a car! I can't believe you can make light of what this poor man went through.
i think calling for the death penalty for a dislocated jaw is a bit much dont you?
should at least be a wedgie....
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It was attempted murder! They tried to push him in front of a car! I can't believe you can make light of what this poor man went through.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rip Van Winkle wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Unfair application of death penalty. OJ should have been put to death, but his money and high power attorneys prevented even a simple murder conviction.
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No, the brain dead jury prevented even a murder conviction. If he'd been tried in a REAL jury of his peers (as in income based), he'd have been convicted. And I'm not saying it was because there was an all-African American jury. If you tried him in one of those all-black gated communities, they'd have convicted him in five minutes.
Unfair application of death penalty. OJ should have been put to death, but his money and high power attorneys prevented even a simple murder conviction.
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No, the brain dead jury prevented even a murder conviction. If he'd been tried in a REAL jury of his peers (as in income based), he'd have been convicted. And I'm not saying it was because there was an all-African American jury. If you tried him in one of those all-black gated communities, they'd have convicted him in five minutes.
That's why I don't post in such topics anymore - starter of the topic is always ready to ask for your opinion and then say why it's wrong. You must feel yourself like a stupid pupil who doesn't agree with teacher otherwise you have to agree.
"No, the brain dead jury prevented even a murder conviction. If he'd been tried in a REAL jury of his peers (as in income based), he'd have been convicted. And I'm not saying it was because there was an all-African American jury. If you tried him in one of those all-black gated communities, they'd have convicted him in five minutes."
Good to see that you realise that a court case must not necessarily be about proving the guilt or innocence of the alleged murderer - the verdict is often enough based on the prejudice of the jury. You should be intelligent enough to understand that you cannot support a death verdict in such an imperfect system. You could be the wrongly accused person yourself some day.
Good to see that you realise that a court case must not necessarily be about proving the guilt or innocence of the alleged murderer - the verdict is often enough based on the prejudice of the jury. You should be intelligent enough to understand that you cannot support a death verdict in such an imperfect system. You could be the wrongly accused person yourself some day.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jcrawford79 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To kill someone without proving them guilty in a court of law is to kill someone without reason. To kill someone without reason is murder. Therefore, you, my friend, condone murder. And in a government founded upon YOUR philosophies, you would be executed.[/QUOTE]
That wanderfully sums it all up. Are all Republicans as stupid? Or is it just one person giving them bad name? I'm asking seriously- don't know America and the political system there, don't know if all Republicans want the wild, wild west times to come back... [/QUOTE]
I think FGT just gets very frustrated at the downfalls of our justice system and voices those frustrations rather haphazardly. I do vote Republican and I seem to get along with the majority of this board, and I don't think I'm stupid. FGT and I have different opinions on many issues even though we vote the same party preference.
I do not want the wild, wild west to come back, no. If a Democratic candidate came along that better matched my views and opinions, then I would certainly vote for that Democratic candidate. The issues I feel are important to me happen to coincide more with the Republican party at this time.
I do have to say that it upsets me that some people on this board say that all Americans are stupid or they hate America, or America's justice system is the worst in the world, etc. Never in my life, would I disrespect the countries that others live in. Especially if I've never lived there or spent any amount of time there. Not much upsets me, except the occasional wedgie, but disrespecting each other does upset me. We should all know better than to do that.
That wanderfully sums it all up. Are all Republicans as stupid? Or is it just one person giving them bad name? I'm asking seriously- don't know America and the political system there, don't know if all Republicans want the wild, wild west times to come back... [/QUOTE]
I think FGT just gets very frustrated at the downfalls of our justice system and voices those frustrations rather haphazardly. I do vote Republican and I seem to get along with the majority of this board, and I don't think I'm stupid. FGT and I have different opinions on many issues even though we vote the same party preference.
I do not want the wild, wild west to come back, no. If a Democratic candidate came along that better matched my views and opinions, then I would certainly vote for that Democratic candidate. The issues I feel are important to me happen to coincide more with the Republican party at this time.
I do have to say that it upsets me that some people on this board say that all Americans are stupid or they hate America, or America's justice system is the worst in the world, etc. Never in my life, would I disrespect the countries that others live in. Especially if I've never lived there or spent any amount of time there. Not much upsets me, except the occasional wedgie, but disrespecting each other does upset me. We should all know better than to do that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jcrawford79 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To kill someone without proving them guilty in a court of law is to kill someone without reason. To kill someone without reason is murder. Therefore, you, my friend, condone murder. And in a government founded upon YOUR philosophies, you would be executed.[/QUOTE]
That wanderfully sums it all up. Are all Republicans as stupid? Or is it just one person giving them bad name? I'm asking seriously- don't know America and the political system there, don't know if all Republicans want the wild, wild west times to come back... [/QUOTE]
I think FGT just gets very frustrated at the downfalls of our justice system and voices those frustrations rather haphazardly. I do vote Republican and I seem to get along with the majority of this board, and I don't think I'm stupid. FGT and I have different opinions on many issues even though we vote the same party preference.
I do not want the wild, wild west to come back, no. If a Democratic candidate came along that better matched my views and opinions, then I would certainly vote for that Democratic candidate. The issues I feel are important to me happen to coincide more with the Republican party at this time.
I do have to say that it upsets me that some people on this board say that all Americans are stupid or they hate America, or America's justice system is the worst in the world, etc. Never in my life, would I disrespect the countries that others live in. Especially if I've never lived there or spent any amount of time there. Not much upsets me, except the occasional wedgie, but disrespecting each other does upset me. We should all know better than to do that.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that.
I was asking really seriously. I don't know any of that Democrat / Republican stuff, I wasn't judging anything apart from FGT post. Thanks for clearing that one for me. Would be really scarry to think that half (or close to that) of America want the old cowboy days to come back :)
That wanderfully sums it all up. Are all Republicans as stupid? Or is it just one person giving them bad name? I'm asking seriously- don't know America and the political system there, don't know if all Republicans want the wild, wild west times to come back... [/QUOTE]
I think FGT just gets very frustrated at the downfalls of our justice system and voices those frustrations rather haphazardly. I do vote Republican and I seem to get along with the majority of this board, and I don't think I'm stupid. FGT and I have different opinions on many issues even though we vote the same party preference.
I do not want the wild, wild west to come back, no. If a Democratic candidate came along that better matched my views and opinions, then I would certainly vote for that Democratic candidate. The issues I feel are important to me happen to coincide more with the Republican party at this time.
I do have to say that it upsets me that some people on this board say that all Americans are stupid or they hate America, or America's justice system is the worst in the world, etc. Never in my life, would I disrespect the countries that others live in. Especially if I've never lived there or spent any amount of time there. Not much upsets me, except the occasional wedgie, but disrespecting each other does upset me. We should all know better than to do that.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that.
I was asking really seriously. I don't know any of that Democrat / Republican stuff, I wasn't judging anything apart from FGT post. Thanks for clearing that one for me. Would be really scarry to think that half (or close to that) of America want the old cowboy days to come back :)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jcrawford79 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To kill someone without proving them guilty in a court of law is to kill someone without reason. To kill someone without reason is murder. Therefore, you, my friend, condone murder. And in a government founded upon YOUR philosophies, you would be executed.[/QUOTE]
That wanderfully sums it all up. Are all Republicans as stupid? Or is it just one person giving them bad name? I'm asking seriously- don't know America and the political system there, don't know if all Republicans want the wild, wild west times to come back... [/QUOTE]
I think FGT just gets very frustrated at the downfalls of our justice system and voices those frustrations rather haphazardly. I do vote Republican and I seem to get along with the majority of this board, and I don't think I'm stupid. FGT and I have different opinions on many issues even though we vote the same party preference.
I do not want the wild, wild west to come back, no. If a Democratic candidate came along that better matched my views and opinions, then I would certainly vote for that Democratic candidate. The issues I feel are important to me happen to coincide more with the Republican party at this time.
I do have to say that it upsets me that some people on this board say that all Americans are stupid or they hate America, or America's justice system is the worst in the world, etc. Never in my life, would I disrespect the countries that others live in. Especially if I've never lived there or spent any amount of time there. Not much upsets me, except the occasional wedgie, but disrespecting each other does upset me. We should all know better than to do that.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that.
I was asking really seriously. I don't know any of that Democrat / Republican stuff, I wasn't judging anything apart from FGT post. Thanks for clearing that one for me. Would be really scarry to think that half (or close to that) of America want the old cowboy days to come back :)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for asking and not assuming! ;) Sadly, there is a portion of the population that like violence and endorse it, but there are many more that would rather have a peaceful life. I don't think FGT endorses violence persay, I think she just gets very, very upset when criminals do what they do. I know she does endorse the war, which is violent as well but that is another topic.
*hi-jack* Fen, did you say you are coming to the US for a gig or two in the Spring????!!!!
That wanderfully sums it all up. Are all Republicans as stupid? Or is it just one person giving them bad name? I'm asking seriously- don't know America and the political system there, don't know if all Republicans want the wild, wild west times to come back... [/QUOTE]
I think FGT just gets very frustrated at the downfalls of our justice system and voices those frustrations rather haphazardly. I do vote Republican and I seem to get along with the majority of this board, and I don't think I'm stupid. FGT and I have different opinions on many issues even though we vote the same party preference.
I do not want the wild, wild west to come back, no. If a Democratic candidate came along that better matched my views and opinions, then I would certainly vote for that Democratic candidate. The issues I feel are important to me happen to coincide more with the Republican party at this time.
I do have to say that it upsets me that some people on this board say that all Americans are stupid or they hate America, or America's justice system is the worst in the world, etc. Never in my life, would I disrespect the countries that others live in. Especially if I've never lived there or spent any amount of time there. Not much upsets me, except the occasional wedgie, but disrespecting each other does upset me. We should all know better than to do that.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that.
I was asking really seriously. I don't know any of that Democrat / Republican stuff, I wasn't judging anything apart from FGT post. Thanks for clearing that one for me. Would be really scarry to think that half (or close to that) of America want the old cowboy days to come back :)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for asking and not assuming! ;) Sadly, there is a portion of the population that like violence and endorse it, but there are many more that would rather have a peaceful life. I don't think FGT endorses violence persay, I think she just gets very, very upset when criminals do what they do. I know she does endorse the war, which is violent as well but that is another topic.
*hi-jack* Fen, did you say you are coming to the US for a gig or two in the Spring????!!!!
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Unfortunately I won't be able... Changing a job pretty much at the same time... maybe even trying to invest some money, buy a house or something... Going through changes and I'd just spend too much money...
I can only hope they'll come back to Europe (if only for one gig)...
Beer(s) with all you guys will have to wait...
</hijack>
Unfortunately I won't be able... Changing a job pretty much at the same time... maybe even trying to invest some money, buy a house or something... Going through changes and I'd just spend too much money...
I can only hope they'll come back to Europe (if only for one gig)...
Beer(s) with all you guys will have to wait...
</hijack>
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME]<hijack>
Unfortunately I won't be able... Changing a job pretty much at the same time... maybe even trying to invest some money, buy a house or something... Going through changes and I'd just spend too much money...
I can only hope they'll come back to Europe (if only for one gig)...
Beer(s) with all you guys will have to wait...
</hijack>
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POOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :(
Unfortunately I won't be able... Changing a job pretty much at the same time... maybe even trying to invest some money, buy a house or something... Going through changes and I'd just spend too much money...
I can only hope they'll come back to Europe (if only for one gig)...
Beer(s) with all you guys will have to wait...
</hijack>
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POOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :(
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Big difference between killing out of spite and killing in service of your country[/QUOTE]
Are you implying that killing in service of your country is ok?
That's quite scary if you do believe that......
Are you implying that killing in service of your country is ok?
That's quite scary if you do believe that......
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Big difference between killing out of spite and killing in service of your country[/QUOTE]
That's funny.
Nazi soldiers killed 6 million Jews because they were serving their country too.
That's funny.
Nazi soldiers killed 6 million Jews because they were serving their country too.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jcrawford79 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To kill someone without proving them guilty in a court of law is to kill someone without reason. To kill someone without reason is murder. Therefore, you, my friend, condone murder. And in a government founded upon YOUR philosophies, you would be executed.[/QUOTE]
That wanderfully sums it all up. Are all Republicans as stupid? Or is it just one person giving them bad name? I'm asking seriously- don't know America and the political system there, don't know if all Republicans want the wild, wild west times to come back... [/QUOTE]
I think FGT just gets very frustrated at the downfalls of our justice system and voices those frustrations rather haphazardly. I do vote Republican and I seem to get along with the majority of this board, and I don't think I'm stupid. FGT and I have different opinions on many issues even though we vote the same party preference.
I do not want the wild, wild west to come back, no. If a Democratic candidate came along that better matched my views and opinions, then I would certainly vote for that Democratic candidate. The issues I feel are important to me happen to coincide more with the Republican party at this time.
I do have to say that it upsets me that some people on this board say that all Americans are stupid or they hate America, or America's justice system is the worst in the world, etc. Never in my life, would I disrespect the countries that others live in. Especially if I've never lived there or spent any amount of time there. Not much upsets me, except the occasional wedgie, but disrespecting each other does upset me. We should all know better than to do that.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that.
I was asking really seriously. I don't know any of that Democrat / Republican stuff, I wasn't judging anything apart from FGT post. Thanks for clearing that one for me. Would be really scarry to think that half (or close to that) of America want the old cowboy days to come back :)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for asking and not assuming! ;) Sadly, there is a portion of the population that like violence and endorse it, but there are many more that would rather have a peaceful life. I don't think FGT endorses violence persay, I think she just gets very, very upset when criminals do what they do. I know she does endorse the war, which is violent as well but that is another topic.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but one can not condemn common street criminals, and at the same time praise and defend the white collar criminals who are raping the morality of this country.
The problem with Sarajane is that she's an extremist. I do agree that criminals get too many benefits in jail. Chris Rock was right when he said that jail should be a place where absolutely no one would want to go back. Criminals have access cable TV, and meals that are ever better than kids get in public schools. Worse than that, they have gyms, so when an ex-convict re-joins society he's even stronger than he was before. Definitely it's something that's got to stop.
However, saying that we should destroy the back bone of justice by not even giving a criminal a right to a trial is absolutely sick. When justice is given based on feelings of hatred and anger, it can't no longer be called "justice".
The decision of what should be the punishment for someone who has broken the law should be given by people of integrity, who have the capacity to be rational, and have a clear mind despite whatever case is being handled.
That wanderfully sums it all up. Are all Republicans as stupid? Or is it just one person giving them bad name? I'm asking seriously- don't know America and the political system there, don't know if all Republicans want the wild, wild west times to come back... [/QUOTE]
I think FGT just gets very frustrated at the downfalls of our justice system and voices those frustrations rather haphazardly. I do vote Republican and I seem to get along with the majority of this board, and I don't think I'm stupid. FGT and I have different opinions on many issues even though we vote the same party preference.
I do not want the wild, wild west to come back, no. If a Democratic candidate came along that better matched my views and opinions, then I would certainly vote for that Democratic candidate. The issues I feel are important to me happen to coincide more with the Republican party at this time.
I do have to say that it upsets me that some people on this board say that all Americans are stupid or they hate America, or America's justice system is the worst in the world, etc. Never in my life, would I disrespect the countries that others live in. Especially if I've never lived there or spent any amount of time there. Not much upsets me, except the occasional wedgie, but disrespecting each other does upset me. We should all know better than to do that.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that.
I was asking really seriously. I don't know any of that Democrat / Republican stuff, I wasn't judging anything apart from FGT post. Thanks for clearing that one for me. Would be really scarry to think that half (or close to that) of America want the old cowboy days to come back :)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for asking and not assuming! ;) Sadly, there is a portion of the population that like violence and endorse it, but there are many more that would rather have a peaceful life. I don't think FGT endorses violence persay, I think she just gets very, very upset when criminals do what they do. I know she does endorse the war, which is violent as well but that is another topic.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but one can not condemn common street criminals, and at the same time praise and defend the white collar criminals who are raping the morality of this country.
The problem with Sarajane is that she's an extremist. I do agree that criminals get too many benefits in jail. Chris Rock was right when he said that jail should be a place where absolutely no one would want to go back. Criminals have access cable TV, and meals that are ever better than kids get in public schools. Worse than that, they have gyms, so when an ex-convict re-joins society he's even stronger than he was before. Definitely it's something that's got to stop.
However, saying that we should destroy the back bone of justice by not even giving a criminal a right to a trial is absolutely sick. When justice is given based on feelings of hatred and anger, it can't no longer be called "justice".
The decision of what should be the punishment for someone who has broken the law should be given by people of integrity, who have the capacity to be rational, and have a clear mind despite whatever case is being handled.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jcrawford79 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To kill someone without proving them guilty in a court of law is to kill someone without reason. To kill someone without reason is murder. Therefore, you, my friend, condone murder. And in a government founded upon YOUR philosophies, you would be executed.[/QUOTE]
That wanderfully sums it all up. Are all Republicans as stupid? Or is it just one person giving them bad name? I'm asking seriously- don't know America and the political system there, don't know if all Republicans want the wild, wild west times to come back... [/QUOTE]
I think FGT just gets very frustrated at the downfalls of our justice system and voices those frustrations rather haphazardly. I do vote Republican and I seem to get along with the majority of this board, and I don't think I'm stupid. FGT and I have different opinions on many issues even though we vote the same party preference.
I do not want the wild, wild west to come back, no. If a Democratic candidate came along that better matched my views and opinions, then I would certainly vote for that Democratic candidate. The issues I feel are important to me happen to coincide more with the Republican party at this time.
I do have to say that it upsets me that some people on this board say that all Americans are stupid or they hate America, or America's justice system is the worst in the world, etc. Never in my life, would I disrespect the countries that others live in. Especially if I've never lived there or spent any amount of time there. Not much upsets me, except the occasional wedgie, but disrespecting each other does upset me. We should all know better than to do that.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that.
I was asking really seriously. I don't know any of that Democrat / Republican stuff, I wasn't judging anything apart from FGT post. Thanks for clearing that one for me. Would be really scarry to think that half (or close to that) of America want the old cowboy days to come back :)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for asking and not assuming! ;) Sadly, there is a portion of the population that like violence and endorse it, but there are many more that would rather have a peaceful life. I don't think FGT endorses violence persay, I think she just gets very, very upset when criminals do what they do. I know she does endorse the war, which is violent as well but that is another topic.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but one can not condemn common street criminals, and at the same time praise and defend the white collar criminals who are raping the morality of this country.
The problem with Sarajane is that she's an extremist. I do agree that criminals get too many benefits in jail. Chris Rock was right when he said that jail should be a place where absolutely no one would want to go back. Criminals have access cable TV, and meals that are ever better than kids get in public schools. Worse than that, they have gyms, so when an ex-convict re-joins society he's even stronger than he was before. Definitely it's something that's got to stop.
However, saying that we should destroy the back bone of justice by not even giving a criminal a right to a trial is absolutely sick. When justice is given based on feelings of hatred and anger, it can't no longer be called "justice".
The decision of what should be the punishment for someone who has broken the law should be given by people of integrity, who have the capacity to be rational, and have a clear mind despite whatever case is being handled.[/QUOTE]
I agree completely with your post.
That wanderfully sums it all up. Are all Republicans as stupid? Or is it just one person giving them bad name? I'm asking seriously- don't know America and the political system there, don't know if all Republicans want the wild, wild west times to come back... [/QUOTE]
I think FGT just gets very frustrated at the downfalls of our justice system and voices those frustrations rather haphazardly. I do vote Republican and I seem to get along with the majority of this board, and I don't think I'm stupid. FGT and I have different opinions on many issues even though we vote the same party preference.
I do not want the wild, wild west to come back, no. If a Democratic candidate came along that better matched my views and opinions, then I would certainly vote for that Democratic candidate. The issues I feel are important to me happen to coincide more with the Republican party at this time.
I do have to say that it upsets me that some people on this board say that all Americans are stupid or they hate America, or America's justice system is the worst in the world, etc. Never in my life, would I disrespect the countries that others live in. Especially if I've never lived there or spent any amount of time there. Not much upsets me, except the occasional wedgie, but disrespecting each other does upset me. We should all know better than to do that.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that.
I was asking really seriously. I don't know any of that Democrat / Republican stuff, I wasn't judging anything apart from FGT post. Thanks for clearing that one for me. Would be really scarry to think that half (or close to that) of America want the old cowboy days to come back :)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for asking and not assuming! ;) Sadly, there is a portion of the population that like violence and endorse it, but there are many more that would rather have a peaceful life. I don't think FGT endorses violence persay, I think she just gets very, very upset when criminals do what they do. I know she does endorse the war, which is violent as well but that is another topic.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but one can not condemn common street criminals, and at the same time praise and defend the white collar criminals who are raping the morality of this country.
The problem with Sarajane is that she's an extremist. I do agree that criminals get too many benefits in jail. Chris Rock was right when he said that jail should be a place where absolutely no one would want to go back. Criminals have access cable TV, and meals that are ever better than kids get in public schools. Worse than that, they have gyms, so when an ex-convict re-joins society he's even stronger than he was before. Definitely it's something that's got to stop.
However, saying that we should destroy the back bone of justice by not even giving a criminal a right to a trial is absolutely sick. When justice is given based on feelings of hatred and anger, it can't no longer be called "justice".
The decision of what should be the punishment for someone who has broken the law should be given by people of integrity, who have the capacity to be rational, and have a clear mind despite whatever case is being handled.[/QUOTE]
I agree completely with your post.
If you kill a murderer you go down to his/her level and it's bad.
If you hit someone that hit you, you go down to his/her level and it's bad.
If a friend proves that he/she hasn't been your friend and you condescend to his/her level and change yourself to keep him/her as a "friend", that is really bad.
If you give love to a person who gives you love, that's good.
If you give love to anyone that has done you wrong, that's good.
But if you give love and receive hate and you do nothing instead, that's your fault you're miserable.
What's the whole point for what I've written?
To say one thing: if a cicle of violence is started, it must be stopped by eliminating it with it's opposite, that is commiting something non-violent, as forgiving. if you commit violence instead, you continue the cicle and it will get stronger and stronger until it won't be able to be stopped. That's why I don't agree with extreme punishments (especially the one who lead to the ending of a life, weather guilty or not guilty).
If you hit someone that hit you, you go down to his/her level and it's bad.
If a friend proves that he/she hasn't been your friend and you condescend to his/her level and change yourself to keep him/her as a "friend", that is really bad.
If you give love to a person who gives you love, that's good.
If you give love to anyone that has done you wrong, that's good.
But if you give love and receive hate and you do nothing instead, that's your fault you're miserable.
What's the whole point for what I've written?
To say one thing: if a cicle of violence is started, it must be stopped by eliminating it with it's opposite, that is commiting something non-violent, as forgiving. if you commit violence instead, you continue the cicle and it will get stronger and stronger until it won't be able to be stopped. That's why I don't agree with extreme punishments (especially the one who lead to the ending of a life, weather guilty or not guilty).