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I still say we should burn a flag! ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jake? wrote: I want him to shove it down my throat and shoot. Shoot! Shoot! C'mon! SHOOT! SHOOT! [/QUOTENAME] [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Millionaire Waltz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I still say we should burn a flag! ;)[/QUOTE]

Agreed, seeing as it is a POLITICAL statement, and not directed at Americans as an ethnic group.

Interesting how anyone defending the Bush-regime resorts to accusations of 'anti-Americanism' when it's just a political issue.
Why would you want to burn anything other than firewood to keep warm? Seems like a waste of time to me. It might also pollute the air? No?

Find something more fullfilling to do with your time.
Wo ist das kamerahhhhhhhhhhh!!! NJ!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Why would you want to burn anything other than firewood to keep warm? Seems like a waste of time to me. It might also pollute the air? No?

Find something more fullfilling to do with your time.[/QUOTE]

I suppose the term 'statement' means nothing to you?

And I suppose that instead of a protest-march against the war, we should go for a walk in the woods. Far more fun, right? Same kind of logic.
Wait, Thomas... is there actually an "American ethnic group"? I'm confused...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jake? wrote: I want him to shove it down my throat and shoot. Shoot! Shoot! C'mon! SHOOT! SHOOT! [/QUOTENAME] [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Millionaire Waltz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Wait, Thomas... is there actually an "American ethnic group"? I'm confused...[/QUOTE]

Ethno-social, yes. Anyone inhabiting the North American continent is ethno-socially speaking an American.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Millionaire Waltz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I still say we should burn a flag! ;)[/QUOTE]

I'll burn a confederate flag. :-)

FUCK YOU LYNARD SKYNYRD!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Brandon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]... and now the "best you can offer is Mr. Jingles? HA! He's... just pathetic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Millionaire Waltz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I still say we should burn a flag! ;)[/QUOTE]

I'll burn a confederate flag. :-)

FUCK YOU LYNARD SKYNYRD![/QUOTE]

You know a guy with a confederate flag painted on his hood tried to run me over a little while ago? While I was walking on the SIDEWALK?!

A rebel flag, and I live in HOLLAND!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Why would you want to burn anything other than firewood to keep warm? Seems like a waste of time to me. It might also pollute the air? No?

Find something more fullfilling to do with your time.[/QUOTE]

I suppose the term 'statement' means nothing to you?

And I suppose that instead of a protest-march against the war, we should go for a walk in the woods. Far more fun, right? Same kind of logic.[/QUOTE]

Yes, Thomas a statement does mean something to me. I just don't see how burning a flag will make any difference or add anything positive to your call. Certainly you can find some other method that is much more constructive to voice your opinions and stances. A non-violent protest march is a great example of what you could do rather than burn a flag. A walk in the woods could also be a great idea. Sure, why not. You could organize a march through the woods in protest of the US holding prisoners at the Bay. I'd much rather do that then burn a flag or burn anything other than wood to keep warm. I think positive attention will get you further than negative attention. A peaceful protest would get my attention on the core issue at hand rather than a flag burning session. When I see people burning flags, it just send a hate message to me. Why would I back anyone's cause that has hate fueling it?
Wo ist das kamerahhhhhhhhhhh!!! NJ!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Why would you want to burn anything other than firewood to keep warm? Seems like a waste of time to me. It might also pollute the air? No?

Find something more fullfilling to do with your time.[/QUOTE]

I suppose the term 'statement' means nothing to you?

And I suppose that instead of a protest-march against the war, we should go for a walk in the woods. Far more fun, right? Same kind of logic.[/QUOTE]

Yes, Thomas a statement does mean something to me. I just don't see how burning a flag will make any difference or add anything positive to your call. Certainly you can find some other method that is much more constructive to voice your opinions and stances. A non-violent protest march is a great example of what you could do rather than burn a flag. A walk in the woods could also be a great idea. Sure, why not. You could organize a march through the woods in protest of the US holding prisoners at the Bay. I'd much rather do that then burn a flag or burn anything other than wood to keep warm. I think positive attention will get you further than negative attention. A peaceful protest would get my attention on the core issue at hand rather than a flag burning session. When I see people burning flags, it just send a hate message to me. Why would I back anyone's cause that has hate fueling it?[/QUOTE]

Again, as it is a powerful statement, not of hate, but of something different: by BURNING the flag, one symbolizes RENEWAL or the need for that (remember the Phoenix?).
Yes, burning a flag is a very strong statement, indeed. You should try it... not that I've ever burned a flag, but I guess it's just one of those things I've got to do in my lifetime... or maybe not, who knows?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jake? wrote: I want him to shove it down my throat and shoot. Shoot! Shoot! C'mon! SHOOT! SHOOT! [/QUOTENAME] [/QUOTE]
This shit doesn't make sense.

Many of us hate Chavez with a passion, and yet we're not burning Venezuelan flags.
Imagine how offended Marialvy or anyone from Venezuela would be if we did that.

I wasn't born in this country, but I love it and I've learned to consider it like my own.
Yes, it has a lot of problems and a corrupt administration, but I still love it anyways.
I voice my opinion and criticize this country because I don't allow myself to be brainwashed by the fake patriotism of the extreme right wing. Right now, 2/3rds of this country consider that we're not heading in the right direction, and if we don't speak out, who will change things?
One can love a nation and point out various forms of criticism without taking things to the extremes by burning flags or calling for the assassination of someone.
I criticize Colombia as well, but it doesn't make me less patriotic to do so.

I left Colombia mainly because left wing bastards are fucking it up. These Marxist sick fucks want to turn the entire nation into a communist country, and many times they claim to be the "army of the people", and yet they kill farmers or steal their land if they refuse to grow coke. Fucking hypocrites make me sick. They're the same assholes who burn American flags on public university protests without realizing than they've fucked up the country far more than corporate America has done already.

I am so fed up with the extreme left and right wing that I don't know which one to hate more.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Brandon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]... and now the "best you can offer is Mr. Jingles? HA! He's... just pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Amen Dan. Why can't we all just be in the medium instead of well done or rare?

I'm hungry.
Wo ist das kamerahhhhhhhhhhh!!! NJ!!!
Despite any symbolic references or actual intents, I have to agree that flag burning does present a negative impact on the general population. It's just better not to do it. No matter what your cause, you will just be seen as either racist, or bigoted, or something else - even if your intent is just to signal that a change is needed. Indeed it is better to send a positive message, such as a peaceful protest.
Creativity can always cover for a lack of knowledge.
Wow, I had no idea this discussion of flag burning would get so popular... ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jake? wrote: I want him to shove it down my throat and shoot. Shoot! Shoot! C'mon! SHOOT! SHOOT! [/QUOTENAME] [/QUOTE]