Hello all. I'm beginning my college search as this time next year i'll be heading off to the real world... THANK GOD... anywho... these are some of the schools that I'm interested in based on what they offer. And i havent made any campus visits yet... im going to this summer... any advice would be great. THANKS SO MUCH! And any other suggested schools in the NYS/PENN/MASS vicinity... I'm interested in Liberal Arts, Music, Art, Travel, Biology, History, French... and other things...
IONA COLLEGE -- in New Rochelle NY
ONEONTA COLLEGE -- in Oneonta NY
MANHATTANVILLE -- in Purchase NY (j/outside NYC)
HARTWICK COLLEGE -- in ONEONTA NY
CANISIUS COLLEGE -- in Buffalo NY
DREXEL UNIVERSITY-- in Philadelphia PA
UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER -- in Rochester NY
PLYMOUTH STATE UNIVERSITY-- in Plymouth NH
UNIVERSITY AT ALBANY -- in Albany NY
NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSTIY -- in Boston MA
MARYMOUNT COLLEGE -- in Tarrytown NY
NIAGARA UNIVERSTIY -- in Niagra NY
FORDHAM UNIVERSITY-- in Bronx NY
and finally...
WELLS COLLEGE -- in AURORA NY
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dont go to any of them,go to UCD in dublin or Trinity college.they both kick ass and have great results
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DreaminQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hello all. I'm beginning my college search as this time next year i'll be heading off to the real world... THANK GOD... anywho... these are some of the schools that I'm interested in based on what they offer. And i havent made any campus visits yet... im going to this summer... any advice would be great. THANKS SO MUCH! And any other suggested schools in the NYS/PENN/MASS vicinity... I'm interested in Liberal Arts, Music, Art, Travel, Biology, History, French... and other things...
IONA COLLEGE -- in New Rochelle NY
ONEONTA COLLEGE -- in Oneonta NY
MANHATTANVILLE -- in Purchase NY (j/outside NYC)
HARTWICK COLLEGE -- in ONEONTA NY
CANISIUS COLLEGE -- in Buffalo NY
DREXEL UNIVERSITY-- in Philadelphia PA
UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER -- in Rochester NY
PLYMOUTH STATE UNIVERSITY-- in Plymouth NH
UNIVERSITY AT ALBANY -- in Albany NY
NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSTIY -- in Boston MA
MARYMOUNT COLLEGE -- in Tarrytown NY
NIAGARA UNIVERSTIY -- in Niagra NY
FORDHAM UNIVERSITY-- in Bronx NY
and finally...
WELLS COLLEGE -- in AURORA NY
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American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in. This is well-known throughout the professional world, so they'll take a diploma from one of those universities with a grain of salt. These practices mainly take place in the Ivy League colleges, but be sure to check the status of the university of your choice.
IONA COLLEGE -- in New Rochelle NY
ONEONTA COLLEGE -- in Oneonta NY
MANHATTANVILLE -- in Purchase NY (j/outside NYC)
HARTWICK COLLEGE -- in ONEONTA NY
CANISIUS COLLEGE -- in Buffalo NY
DREXEL UNIVERSITY-- in Philadelphia PA
UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER -- in Rochester NY
PLYMOUTH STATE UNIVERSITY-- in Plymouth NH
UNIVERSITY AT ALBANY -- in Albany NY
NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSTIY -- in Boston MA
MARYMOUNT COLLEGE -- in Tarrytown NY
NIAGARA UNIVERSTIY -- in Niagra NY
FORDHAM UNIVERSITY-- in Bronx NY
and finally...
WELLS COLLEGE -- in AURORA NY
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American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in. This is well-known throughout the professional world, so they'll take a diploma from one of those universities with a grain of salt. These practices mainly take place in the Ivy League colleges, but be sure to check the status of the university of your choice.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in.[/QUOTE]
You really are talking crap!
American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in.[/QUOTE]
You really are talking crap!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in.[/QUOTE]
You really are talking crap![/QUOTE]
I know A's weren't handed to me on a silver platter.
American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in.[/QUOTE]
You really are talking crap![/QUOTE]
I know A's weren't handed to me on a silver platter.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]
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American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in. This is well-known throughout the professional world, so they'll take a diploma from one of those universities with a grain of salt. These practices mainly take place in the Ivy League colleges, but be sure to check the status of the university of your choice.[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much Thomas. I dont intend on attending an Ivy League college... My grades are not perfect enough and defintaly wayyy to expensive. And i live in the US so i dont have to many other options at this point as far as thats concerned off the bat anyways. But i will definatly take that advice. Thanks again for your sage words.
Cheers!
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American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in. This is well-known throughout the professional world, so they'll take a diploma from one of those universities with a grain of salt. These practices mainly take place in the Ivy League colleges, but be sure to check the status of the university of your choice.[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much Thomas. I dont intend on attending an Ivy League college... My grades are not perfect enough and defintaly wayyy to expensive. And i live in the US so i dont have to many other options at this point as far as thats concerned off the bat anyways. But i will definatly take that advice. Thanks again for your sage words.
Cheers!
What people think goes on in America and what really goes on are two totally different things.
Please ignore Caspar; no clue why he considers himself a good judge of American universities. There are those in America who readily argue that European schools are poor in comparison to US schools, so that argument is a catch-22.
It should be noted that American schools do attract many international students, espcecially in the maths and sciences, so his claim that "American universities have a really bad name world-wide" doesn't really wash. (And yes, Caspar, we are well aware that your father taught at a SUNY school. But how a 17 year old Dutch boy can claim to be so acquainted with the workings of the "professional world" is beyond me.)
As for the original request:
Take the areas you are intested in (such as History) and see what classes they offer in that area. Look over the faculty and see who teaches those classes, and try to figure out how big the average class size is. (There are websites that rank schools based on academic departments, look for those)
Then, ask yourself what you want to do with the degree. Most schools will provide simple statistics as to what their graduates end up doing with their degress, so look for that.
Finally, go visit the schools.
It should be noted that American schools do attract many international students, espcecially in the maths and sciences, so his claim that "American universities have a really bad name world-wide" doesn't really wash. (And yes, Caspar, we are well aware that your father taught at a SUNY school. But how a 17 year old Dutch boy can claim to be so acquainted with the workings of the "professional world" is beyond me.)
As for the original request:
Take the areas you are intested in (such as History) and see what classes they offer in that area. Look over the faculty and see who teaches those classes, and try to figure out how big the average class size is. (There are websites that rank schools based on academic departments, look for those)
Then, ask yourself what you want to do with the degree. Most schools will provide simple statistics as to what their graduates end up doing with their degress, so look for that.
Finally, go visit the schools.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DreaminQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]
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American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in. This is well-known throughout the professional world, so they'll take a diploma from one of those universities with a grain of salt. These practices mainly take place in the Ivy League colleges, but be sure to check the status of the university of your choice.[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much Thomas. I dont intend on attending an Ivy League college... My grades are not perfect enough and defintaly wayyy to expensive. And i live in the US so i dont have to many other options at this point as far as thats concerned off the bat anyways. But i will definatly take that advice. Thanks again for your sage words.
Cheers! [/QUOTE]
Those were anything but "sage words." As others have already said, his advice was "crap."
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American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in. This is well-known throughout the professional world, so they'll take a diploma from one of those universities with a grain of salt. These practices mainly take place in the Ivy League colleges, but be sure to check the status of the university of your choice.[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much Thomas. I dont intend on attending an Ivy League college... My grades are not perfect enough and defintaly wayyy to expensive. And i live in the US so i dont have to many other options at this point as far as thats concerned off the bat anyways. But i will definatly take that advice. Thanks again for your sage words.
Cheers! [/QUOTE]
Those were anything but "sage words." As others have already said, his advice was "crap."
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What people think goes on in America and what really goes on are two totally different things.[/QUOTE]
Yea, as an American, I can attest to that.
We seem to attract a rather negative stigma around here.
Yea, as an American, I can attest to that.
We seem to attract a rather negative stigma around here.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zeni wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DreaminQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]
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American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in. This is well-known throughout the professional world, so they'll take a diploma from one of those universities with a grain of salt. These practices mainly take place in the Ivy League colleges, but be sure to check the status of the university of your choice.[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much Thomas. I dont intend on attending an Ivy League college... My grades are not perfect enough and defintaly wayyy to expensive. And i live in the US so i dont have to many other options at this point as far as thats concerned off the bat anyways. But i will definatly take that advice. Thanks again for your sage words.
Cheers! [/QUOTE]
Those were anything but "sage words." As others have already said, his advice was "crap."[/QUOTE]
I suppose that was rather naive for me to say... But i know some shady stuff does occur at some schools. But i know they dont fling around A's like nothing...
Thanks for your advice too by the way. :D
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American universities have a really bad name world-wide. There is a policy of giving students high marks for bad work they hand in. This is well-known throughout the professional world, so they'll take a diploma from one of those universities with a grain of salt. These practices mainly take place in the Ivy League colleges, but be sure to check the status of the university of your choice.[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much Thomas. I dont intend on attending an Ivy League college... My grades are not perfect enough and defintaly wayyy to expensive. And i live in the US so i dont have to many other options at this point as far as thats concerned off the bat anyways. But i will definatly take that advice. Thanks again for your sage words.
Cheers! [/QUOTE]
Those were anything but "sage words." As others have already said, his advice was "crap."[/QUOTE]
I suppose that was rather naive for me to say... But i know some shady stuff does occur at some schools. But i know they dont fling around A's like nothing...
Thanks for your advice too by the way. :D
As someone associated with a major American university, I can attest to some of the shady things that occur at school. Grade inflation is a problem in some schools, but my experience is that it is a professor-by-professor problem. Some professors just don't care what their students get; others do. Smaller schools are more geared to teaching, while larger universities tend to be more concerned about research. You might keep that in mind and see what benefit (teaching/research) it can be to you.
If you want to go to college to party, then your grades will probably be low. If you work hard at your studies, your grades will reflect that. It's not rocket science to figure that out (unless you actually go into rocket science).
If you want to go to college to party, then your grades will probably be low. If you work hard at your studies, your grades will reflect that. It's not rocket science to figure that out (unless you actually go into rocket science).
I see you're thinking of going to a school on the NY Tri State Area.
Whatever you do, don't pick Adelphi University. It's an expensive private school with shit education where all the preppie rich kids go to spend more time partying than studying.
Whatever you do, don't pick Adelphi University. It's an expensive private school with shit education where all the preppie rich kids go to spend more time partying than studying.
I can't say much about the universities you listed, but I can offer some advice:
A few posts up, it was brought up that smaller schools are more teaching based, while larger ones are more research based. I'm at a university right now (Central Michigan University) that is in the transition of going from a teaching based to a research based. Depending on what you want to study, both have their benefits. If you need the extra time from professors, better go with a teaching based school. Research based schools tend to be better geared toward the independent student who doesn't need to have their hand held and their backs prodded to get stuff done. Plus, research heavy schools tend to look better on resumes, depending on what you are studying.
Grade inflation is going to be a problem no matter where you go....a school in the US or a school in Europe. It usually depends on the proffessor, so you can't judge an entire school or sets of schools by that standard alone. Don't worry too much about that though.
Here's some more general advice:
1) realize that those little forms they'll give you to fill out roommate preferences don't even get looked at when they go about assigning dorms, but most schools are pretty good about moving you if you are in a really bad situation
2) meet as many different types of people as you can. Learning to interact with them here is much better than trying to do it on the professional level.
3) while going out and having fun every once in a while isn't a bad thing, remember if you start to party too much that you are paying good tuition money to get wasted and puke...not a good trade off
4) STUDY ABROAD! Seriously, do this! I wish it was a requirement for all US students. There are tons of monies available if you don't have the money to pay for it yourself, and believe me it's worth every penny. Besides, when else could you travel around the world without being tied down to a family or kids or jobs? Retirement is a long ways off, and by then your body is going to crap anyway...
A few posts up, it was brought up that smaller schools are more teaching based, while larger ones are more research based. I'm at a university right now (Central Michigan University) that is in the transition of going from a teaching based to a research based. Depending on what you want to study, both have their benefits. If you need the extra time from professors, better go with a teaching based school. Research based schools tend to be better geared toward the independent student who doesn't need to have their hand held and their backs prodded to get stuff done. Plus, research heavy schools tend to look better on resumes, depending on what you are studying.
Grade inflation is going to be a problem no matter where you go....a school in the US or a school in Europe. It usually depends on the proffessor, so you can't judge an entire school or sets of schools by that standard alone. Don't worry too much about that though.
Here's some more general advice:
1) realize that those little forms they'll give you to fill out roommate preferences don't even get looked at when they go about assigning dorms, but most schools are pretty good about moving you if you are in a really bad situation
2) meet as many different types of people as you can. Learning to interact with them here is much better than trying to do it on the professional level.
3) while going out and having fun every once in a while isn't a bad thing, remember if you start to party too much that you are paying good tuition money to get wasted and puke...not a good trade off
4) STUDY ABROAD! Seriously, do this! I wish it was a requirement for all US students. There are tons of monies available if you don't have the money to pay for it yourself, and believe me it's worth every penny. Besides, when else could you travel around the world without being tied down to a family or kids or jobs? Retirement is a long ways off, and by then your body is going to crap anyway...
Funny how Caspar thinks he knows more about the education in American Universities than those who have actually spent 4 or 5 years studying here.