[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]thenymphinyellow wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Ok, I have never been angry from reading something here, but seriously for those who say shit like that know absolutely nothing about what he did and his passion for animal conservation and some certain people should really be ashamed of themselves!
Talking crap about Steve when he died on Monday!? It makes me wonder if some of you have any compassion what so ever... He deserves way more respect than some of you are willing to give him.
Treating animals like shit? Do you have any idea how much (of his own may i add) money he spent putting into buying land for animal habitat conservation?! Most of the money that he earned through australia zoo and his docos he put right back into everything that he was fighting for. Get your facts straight when you say he treated animals like shit because if it wasnt for Steve we would probably have half the numbers in Australian wild life we have now.
PS. I am really sorry I had to do this...
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Regardless of his World View, I'm talking on an animal to animal basis here... he annoyed the shit out of them, got in their personal space, and showed very little thought for what the ANIMAL thought about all the running around, getting grabbed - all in front of big arse camera crews.
This is, in my view, plainly disrespectful to an animal that can't actually say (in our language, anyway) "Hey I don't appreciate this, please leave me alone". Animals, by and large, don't know when we're stuffing around. I'd put money on the majority of the animals he played with actually being quite uncomfortable - threatened, even, by the antics he got up to. Sometimes in front of CROWDS too... this is not cool.
I'm sure his money was very useful to animal welfare, and I'm sure his zoo is the finest such place for animals to live in. I really applaud that.
But the guy knew jack about animals if he thought it was ok to behave like an utter galah around them. I don't know what part of the country you are from (if indeed, this country) but they tell you very early on *not to stuff around with animals that can kill you*.
He was a bonehead - THAT IS WHY PEOPLE LIKED HIM. Cheap entertainment. He was not a champion of anything but reckless behaviour; it made for good fun viewing, but really... I think it shows a great disrespect to one Mr. Butler, saying that Steve Irwin was our foremost mind on animals. He was just a big kid having a bit of fun.
People are all-too-right that his death is tragic, early, and meaningless. He was only 44. Fucking tragic; he won't get to see his kids grow up and do all the things he should be there to see.
But I'm sick of this stupid attitude that he's some kind of genius of the animal kingdom. He was just an entertainer. Pure and simple.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]AmeriQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]No shit! And for the record... that's what he gets for fucking with wild animals and selling it to people with too much time on their hands. [/QUOTE]
Apparently, you didn't read the part about his death where he wasn't "fucking with wild animals" - he was merely going for a swim and the stingray felt threatened and attacked.
You might want to try reading his bio on wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_irwin - and see just how passionate a conservationist and animal enthusiast was. He wasn't only a crazy Aussie who ran around screaming "Crikey!" and "I'll stick me finger up her bum!" to get ratings; he actually gave a shit. I was always indifferent about him and his show, but just the fact that he cared about all animals means a lot to me, and he certainly didn't deserve what he got.[/QUOTE]
Amen. The world needs more of his kind and fewer of the technocrats.
Apparently, you didn't read the part about his death where he wasn't "fucking with wild animals" - he was merely going for a swim and the stingray felt threatened and attacked.
You might want to try reading his bio on wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_irwin - and see just how passionate a conservationist and animal enthusiast was. He wasn't only a crazy Aussie who ran around screaming "Crikey!" and "I'll stick me finger up her bum!" to get ratings; he actually gave a shit. I was always indifferent about him and his show, but just the fact that he cared about all animals means a lot to me, and he certainly didn't deserve what he got.[/QUOTE]
Amen. The world needs more of his kind and fewer of the technocrats.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Regardless of his feelings towards animal conservation - he clearly didn't like animals on a face-to-face basis. He abused them and made them feel threatened for a living. It's a wonder he lasted as long as he did.
Bless him for his talents as an entertainer - but he was no champion of animal rights, he treated 'em like shit and spent his whole life getting on their nerves![/QUOTE]
If you judge him by his 'work' for Animal Planet, you are an ignorant cunt. The guy has done more good in his life than your entire family ever will. Just keep that in mind. Understood?
Bless him for his talents as an entertainer - but he was no champion of animal rights, he treated 'em like shit and spent his whole life getting on their nerves![/QUOTE]
If you judge him by his 'work' for Animal Planet, you are an ignorant cunt. The guy has done more good in his life than your entire family ever will. Just keep that in mind. Understood?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He wasn't a hero, he was an attention whore.
He did it for the money and he did get what he deserved for messing with all the animals in his show. Shame he left 2 kids and a wife behind, this shows how irresponsible he actually was.
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And you are yet another ignorant fuck who judges from what he saw on Animal Planet.
To draw a parallel: what you are saying is like it would be a good idea to shoot Gary Oldman because he once played a very nasty cop in 'Léon'.
He did it for the money and he did get what he deserved for messing with all the animals in his show. Shame he left 2 kids and a wife behind, this shows how irresponsible he actually was.
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And you are yet another ignorant fuck who judges from what he saw on Animal Planet.
To draw a parallel: what you are saying is like it would be a good idea to shoot Gary Oldman because he once played a very nasty cop in 'Léon'.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He wasn't a hero, he was an attention whore.
He did it for the money and he did get what he deserved for messing with all the animals in his show. Shame he left 2 kids and a wife behind, this shows how irresponsible he actually was.
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And you are yet another ignorant fuck who judges from what he saw on Animal Planet.
To draw a parallel: what you are saying is like it would be a good idea to shoot Gary Oldman because he once played a very nasty cop in 'Léon'.[/QUOTE]
Sticks n stones...
Typical Cas, calling someone ignorant when he or she doesn't share your opinion. Grow up.
He did it for the money and he did get what he deserved for messing with all the animals in his show. Shame he left 2 kids and a wife behind, this shows how irresponsible he actually was.
http://i4.tinypic.com/286wugi.gif
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And you are yet another ignorant fuck who judges from what he saw on Animal Planet.
To draw a parallel: what you are saying is like it would be a good idea to shoot Gary Oldman because he once played a very nasty cop in 'Léon'.[/QUOTE]
Sticks n stones...
Typical Cas, calling someone ignorant when he or she doesn't share your opinion. Grow up.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He wasn't a hero, he was an attention whore.
He did it for the money and he did get what he deserved for messing with all the animals in his show. Shame he left 2 kids and a wife behind, this shows how irresponsible he actually was.
http://i4.tinypic.com/286wugi.gif
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And you are yet another ignorant fuck who judges from what he saw on Animal Planet.
To draw a parallel: what you are saying is like it would be a good idea to shoot Gary Oldman because he once played a very nasty cop in 'Léon'.[/QUOTE]
Sticks n stones...
Typical Cas, calling someone ignorant when he or she doesn't share your opinion. Grow up. [/QUOTE]
Typical TFK, pretending to be wise and mature, when the best he can do is flaunt his ignorance.
He did it for the money and he did get what he deserved for messing with all the animals in his show. Shame he left 2 kids and a wife behind, this shows how irresponsible he actually was.
http://i4.tinypic.com/286wugi.gif
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And you are yet another ignorant fuck who judges from what he saw on Animal Planet.
To draw a parallel: what you are saying is like it would be a good idea to shoot Gary Oldman because he once played a very nasty cop in 'Léon'.[/QUOTE]
Sticks n stones...
Typical Cas, calling someone ignorant when he or she doesn't share your opinion. Grow up. [/QUOTE]
Typical TFK, pretending to be wise and mature, when the best he can do is flaunt his ignorance.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Regardless of his feelings towards animal conservation - he clearly didn't like animals on a face-to-face basis. He abused them and made them feel threatened for a living. It's a wonder he lasted as long as he did.
Bless him for his talents as an entertainer - but he was no champion of animal rights, he treated 'em like shit and spent his whole life getting on their nerves![/QUOTE]
If you judge him by his 'work' for Animal Planet, you are an ignorant cunt. The guy has done more good in his life than your entire family ever will. Just keep that in mind. Understood?[/QUOTE]
Wrong and double wrong, you miserable blob.
What you say might be verifiable for a dozen other families you might know, but not mine. I can't speak for myself; I'm occasionally selfish and mediocre when the mood takes me, but my family is above your worthless reproach. Really. My sister saved a baby on the train once, when *no other fucker on the train* even batted an eyelid. You haven't a damn clue of the quality of the people you're pissing on - whereas with Steve Irwin, we're assured that what we saw on camera was 'the real Steve' - so if anything, we're in prime position to say what we think of him.
I had no idea that you knew Steve Irwin personally (well you sound like it anyway) but I stand by what I said. His gift to the animal kingdom was not the dullard personality we all saw on television. It was his extremely beneficial zoo, and monetary contributions.
It is absolutely none of my business if, between LAN parties and anime screenings, you choose to get annoyed at random people on the internet. Your prerogative. However, go and pick on someone who's just making fun of Steve Irwin because he can.
I don't judge him 'just for his work on Animal Planet', and I'm not an ignorant cunt. You have me mistaken for someone else, but I forgive you.
Bless him for his talents as an entertainer - but he was no champion of animal rights, he treated 'em like shit and spent his whole life getting on their nerves![/QUOTE]
If you judge him by his 'work' for Animal Planet, you are an ignorant cunt. The guy has done more good in his life than your entire family ever will. Just keep that in mind. Understood?[/QUOTE]
Wrong and double wrong, you miserable blob.
What you say might be verifiable for a dozen other families you might know, but not mine. I can't speak for myself; I'm occasionally selfish and mediocre when the mood takes me, but my family is above your worthless reproach. Really. My sister saved a baby on the train once, when *no other fucker on the train* even batted an eyelid. You haven't a damn clue of the quality of the people you're pissing on - whereas with Steve Irwin, we're assured that what we saw on camera was 'the real Steve' - so if anything, we're in prime position to say what we think of him.
I had no idea that you knew Steve Irwin personally (well you sound like it anyway) but I stand by what I said. His gift to the animal kingdom was not the dullard personality we all saw on television. It was his extremely beneficial zoo, and monetary contributions.
It is absolutely none of my business if, between LAN parties and anime screenings, you choose to get annoyed at random people on the internet. Your prerogative. However, go and pick on someone who's just making fun of Steve Irwin because he can.
I don't judge him 'just for his work on Animal Planet', and I'm not an ignorant cunt. You have me mistaken for someone else, but I forgive you.
I don't want your forgiveness. Only people whom I can muster some respect for can offer me that. After your remarks, I cannot give you the least bit of respect. Good to hear about your sister; she's plainly a better person than you are. I'm very sorry if I may seem even less nice than usual, blame it on the unrelenting flow of bad news I've had during the last few days. However, I stand by what I said: anyone who has the ignorance and bad taste to tread on the personality of this man who, though a fool on tv, has done more for this planet than all of this worthless mess that goes by the name of QZ put together, does not deserve the (polluted) air they are breathing.
"I don't want your forgiveness."
It's only human to offer it; understood.
"Only people whom I can muster some respect for can offer me that."
I understand this, but I can't really agree with it. I am, for one, willing to listen to what you think about this guy; you just seem intent on arguing with people.
"After your remarks, I cannot give you the least bit of respect."
You are - at least, by talking. I truly think you've misunderstood what I'm saying here... I LIKED Steve Irwin, in one sense. In another, I think it was all a lot of bullshit, and some rational criticisms of his behaviour around animals are being ignored because (perhaps rightly so) it's a little too soon after his death.
Not my problem.
"Good to hear about your sister; she's plainly a better person than you are."
SHE IS. Better than me, better than you, better than anyone I've ever met, largely because she's had a *really* fucked up lot of events in her life. But she manages to turn it around.
"I'm very sorry if I may seem even less nice than usual, blame it on the unrelenting flow of bad news I've had during the last few days."
Ours not to reason why.
"However, I stand by what I said: anyone who has the ignorance and bad taste to tread on the personality of this man who, though a fool on tv, has done more for this planet than all of this worthless mess that goes by the name of QZ put together, does not deserve the (polluted) air they are breathing."
ARE YOU READING THE SAME THINGS THAT I AM?
I acknowledge his worth in certain areas. I merely point out that it does not make him some kind of God-like figure, it doesn't make him perfect, and he was irresponsible and foolish to act like that around animals, especially when it endangered him; and later on, one of his kids. Jesus - of course I liked what I saw! He was a funny guy, entertaining.... but for someone who apparently stands for high values concerning animals, he made a big fuss out of annoying them.
Again - it's not my worry that you've got things to sort out at the moment, I'd never dump my problems on anyone here so no one expects the same from you.
But you really have the wrong idea here. I'm not the one that posted a curiously inappropriate gif of Steve Irwin swimming away from a stingray. In another thread, when I related a badly timed joke about Sting, I typed 'HAHA' in sarcasm. I am not the foe here. Not that it matters to you, but you have been largely unfair in calling me a cunt and I'm a little annoyed. In your last sentence, you *actually agree* with what I think about Steve Irwin, so if you're still pissy, it's likely about something else.
Anyway.
It's only human to offer it; understood.
"Only people whom I can muster some respect for can offer me that."
I understand this, but I can't really agree with it. I am, for one, willing to listen to what you think about this guy; you just seem intent on arguing with people.
"After your remarks, I cannot give you the least bit of respect."
You are - at least, by talking. I truly think you've misunderstood what I'm saying here... I LIKED Steve Irwin, in one sense. In another, I think it was all a lot of bullshit, and some rational criticisms of his behaviour around animals are being ignored because (perhaps rightly so) it's a little too soon after his death.
Not my problem.
"Good to hear about your sister; she's plainly a better person than you are."
SHE IS. Better than me, better than you, better than anyone I've ever met, largely because she's had a *really* fucked up lot of events in her life. But she manages to turn it around.
"I'm very sorry if I may seem even less nice than usual, blame it on the unrelenting flow of bad news I've had during the last few days."
Ours not to reason why.
"However, I stand by what I said: anyone who has the ignorance and bad taste to tread on the personality of this man who, though a fool on tv, has done more for this planet than all of this worthless mess that goes by the name of QZ put together, does not deserve the (polluted) air they are breathing."
ARE YOU READING THE SAME THINGS THAT I AM?
I acknowledge his worth in certain areas. I merely point out that it does not make him some kind of God-like figure, it doesn't make him perfect, and he was irresponsible and foolish to act like that around animals, especially when it endangered him; and later on, one of his kids. Jesus - of course I liked what I saw! He was a funny guy, entertaining.... but for someone who apparently stands for high values concerning animals, he made a big fuss out of annoying them.
Again - it's not my worry that you've got things to sort out at the moment, I'd never dump my problems on anyone here so no one expects the same from you.
But you really have the wrong idea here. I'm not the one that posted a curiously inappropriate gif of Steve Irwin swimming away from a stingray. In another thread, when I related a badly timed joke about Sting, I typed 'HAHA' in sarcasm. I am not the foe here. Not that it matters to you, but you have been largely unfair in calling me a cunt and I'm a little annoyed. In your last sentence, you *actually agree* with what I think about Steve Irwin, so if you're still pissy, it's likely about something else.
Anyway.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He wasn't a hero, he was an attention whore.
He did it for the money and he did get what he deserved for messing with all the animals in his show. Shame he left 2 kids and a wife behind, this shows how irresponsible he actually was.
http://i4.tinypic.com/286wugi.gif
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And you are yet another ignorant fuck who judges from what he saw on Animal Planet.
To draw a parallel: what you are saying is like it would be a good idea to shoot Gary Oldman because he once played a very nasty cop in 'Léon'.[/QUOTE]
Sticks n stones...
Typical Cas, calling someone ignorant when he or she doesn't share your opinion. Grow up. [/QUOTE]
Typical TFK, pretending to be wise and mature, when the best he can do is flaunt his ignorance.[/QUOTE]
You're judging people you know squat of by their behavior on a stupid forum, that has got to be the most ignorant thing you can do.
At least i don't judge anyone by what kind of music they are listening to, literature they are consuming, political ideas they have or whatever they are thinking unlike you.
ThomasQuinn ladies and gentlemen!
He's going to be someone one day...
the communist dictator on aisle 8 at your local drugstore!
Instead of calling every Queenzone useless(if we are, you're the king) you should look at who you are defending here. Is Steve Irwin really someone that deserves mr Quinn's help? Or are you just whining for the sake of it?
Either way, you're just a hypocrite.
Go preach to some brainless kids that need a fucked up leader.
He did it for the money and he did get what he deserved for messing with all the animals in his show. Shame he left 2 kids and a wife behind, this shows how irresponsible he actually was.
http://i4.tinypic.com/286wugi.gif
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And you are yet another ignorant fuck who judges from what he saw on Animal Planet.
To draw a parallel: what you are saying is like it would be a good idea to shoot Gary Oldman because he once played a very nasty cop in 'Léon'.[/QUOTE]
Sticks n stones...
Typical Cas, calling someone ignorant when he or she doesn't share your opinion. Grow up. [/QUOTE]
Typical TFK, pretending to be wise and mature, when the best he can do is flaunt his ignorance.[/QUOTE]
You're judging people you know squat of by their behavior on a stupid forum, that has got to be the most ignorant thing you can do.
At least i don't judge anyone by what kind of music they are listening to, literature they are consuming, political ideas they have or whatever they are thinking unlike you.
ThomasQuinn ladies and gentlemen!
He's going to be someone one day...
the communist dictator on aisle 8 at your local drugstore!
Instead of calling every Queenzone useless(if we are, you're the king) you should look at who you are defending here. Is Steve Irwin really someone that deserves mr Quinn's help? Or are you just whining for the sake of it?
Either way, you're just a hypocrite.
Go preach to some brainless kids that need a fucked up leader.
I'm obviously in the wrong place...
I sinceriously don't come here to argue, so if that's what people here like to do then I'll bow out of the thread and find another one.
Au revoir
I sinceriously don't come here to argue, so if that's what people here like to do then I'll bow out of the thread and find another one.
Au revoir
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm obviously in the wrong place...
I sinceriously don't come here to argue, so if that's what people here like to do then I'll bow out of the thread and find another one.
Au revoir[/QUOTE]
Ta ta!
I sinceriously don't come here to argue, so if that's what people here like to do then I'll bow out of the thread and find another one.
Au revoir[/QUOTE]
Ta ta!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He wasn't a hero, he was an attention whore.
He did it for the money and he did get what he deserved for messing with all the animals in his show. Shame he left 2 kids and a wife behind, this shows how irresponsible he actually was.
http://i4.tinypic.com/286wugi.gif
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And you are yet another ignorant fuck who judges from what he saw on Animal Planet.
To draw a parallel: what you are saying is like it would be a good idea to shoot Gary Oldman because he once played a very nasty cop in 'Léon'.[/QUOTE]
Sticks n stones...
Typical Cas, calling someone ignorant when he or she doesn't share your opinion. Grow up. [/QUOTE]
Typical TFK, pretending to be wise and mature, when the best he can do is flaunt his ignorance.[/QUOTE]
You're judging people you know squat of by their behavior on a stupid forum, that has got to be the most ignorant thing you can do.
At least i don't judge anyone by what kind of music they are listening to, literature they are consuming, political ideas they have or whatever they are thinking unlike you.
ThomasQuinn ladies and gentlemen!
He's going to be someone one day...
the communist dictator on aisle 8 at your local drugstore!
Instead of calling every Queenzone useless(if we are, you're the king) you should look at who you are defending here. Is Steve Irwin really someone that deserves mr Quinn's help? Or are you just whining for the sake of it?
Either way, you're just a hypocrite.
Go preach to some brainless kids that need a fucked up leader.
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I'm not going to respond to your criticism (I don't think it's worth it; do with it what you please), however, I would like to point the following out:
You realize that you are guilty of the same behaviour you are accusing me of in the first part of your post, right?
He did it for the money and he did get what he deserved for messing with all the animals in his show. Shame he left 2 kids and a wife behind, this shows how irresponsible he actually was.
http://i4.tinypic.com/286wugi.gif
[/QUOTE]
And you are yet another ignorant fuck who judges from what he saw on Animal Planet.
To draw a parallel: what you are saying is like it would be a good idea to shoot Gary Oldman because he once played a very nasty cop in 'Léon'.[/QUOTE]
Sticks n stones...
Typical Cas, calling someone ignorant when he or she doesn't share your opinion. Grow up. [/QUOTE]
Typical TFK, pretending to be wise and mature, when the best he can do is flaunt his ignorance.[/QUOTE]
You're judging people you know squat of by their behavior on a stupid forum, that has got to be the most ignorant thing you can do.
At least i don't judge anyone by what kind of music they are listening to, literature they are consuming, political ideas they have or whatever they are thinking unlike you.
ThomasQuinn ladies and gentlemen!
He's going to be someone one day...
the communist dictator on aisle 8 at your local drugstore!
Instead of calling every Queenzone useless(if we are, you're the king) you should look at who you are defending here. Is Steve Irwin really someone that deserves mr Quinn's help? Or are you just whining for the sake of it?
Either way, you're just a hypocrite.
Go preach to some brainless kids that need a fucked up leader.
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I'm not going to respond to your criticism (I don't think it's worth it; do with it what you please), however, I would like to point the following out:
You realize that you are guilty of the same behaviour you are accusing me of in the first part of your post, right?
I'm not going to respond to your criticism (I don't think it's worth it; do with it what you please),
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Your choice, don't care really. I just replied to your bonehead post.
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however, I would like to point the following out:
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Oh wait, now you DO wanna react?? WTF?
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You realize that you are guilty of the same behaviour you are accusing me of in the first part of your post, right?
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Am i? I just thought it was rich, you calling ME ignorant. You call everyone ignorant who doen't think the same as you, i just pointed out you're a hypocrite with your behaviour on here. Learn to respect other people's opinions and don't attack them because they think different. Because THAT my friend, makes YOU something you hate in the first place. ;)
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Your choice, don't care really. I just replied to your bonehead post.
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however, I would like to point the following out:
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Oh wait, now you DO wanna react?? WTF?
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You realize that you are guilty of the same behaviour you are accusing me of in the first part of your post, right?
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Am i? I just thought it was rich, you calling ME ignorant. You call everyone ignorant who doen't think the same as you, i just pointed out you're a hypocrite with your behaviour on here. Learn to respect other people's opinions and don't attack them because they think different. Because THAT my friend, makes YOU something you hate in the first place. ;)
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