Bush admits secret CIA prisons, international outrage follows

Meet the new boss...
Same as the old boss.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]http://break.com/index/evil_state_of_union.html[/QUOTE]

This was hilarious. Thanks for sharing!

Its about time! Hopefully gitmo can teach those bastards their lesson

I didn't vote for Bush the 1st or 2nd time. I wonder if he still reads his "PRESIDENT FOR DUMMIES" book everytime he makes and address to the nation? lol

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I didn't vote for Bush the 1st or 2nd time. I wonder if he still reads his "PRESIDENT FOR DUMMIES" book everytime he makes and address to the nation? lol[/QUOTE]


lol xD

Abe Lincoln was probably the best president in USA history...George W. Bush is cool cause we can poke fun at him more than any other prez

It bothers me though how so many people who post crap about Bush around here are NOT FROM THE U.S.A. Yet complain regularly on how it's run. I do think though that the secret prisons are shady to say the least, but you don't see me posting crap about the government in the UK, or the Netherlands, or in like Mexico or that kind of crap. It'd be better to get more intellegent responses in these threads other than

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Multiple posters wrote:[/QUOTENAME] Bush is evil...Bush is the worst American president...[Bush's] Nazi regime...[/QUOTE]

So TQ...shut up for at least a little while about your grievances having to do with a country thousands of miles away from you. That goes for some of the other posters here from the UK or from other far away regions.

To clarify, Bush did win the first election, despite losing the popular vote.

It is debatable, although debate tends to lean in Bush's favor, that should Florida have been recounted, Al Gore may have won the state (Bush's margin of victory in that state was VERY small). However, the Supreme Court declared that a recount should not proceed, and therefore it did not.

Edit: That said, it is my opinion that we definitely need a President with more or less classically liberal ("Libertarian") ideals.

how can you lose the popular vote? its like an oxy moron, the one who is most popular always wins

I already had problems with it, but now I can't take that person seriously anymore. And who can? Bush should take his responsibility and leave the White House!

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY™ wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It bothers me though how so many people who post crap about Bush around here are NOT FROM THE U.S.A. Yet complain regularly on how it's run. I do think though that the secret prisons are shady to say the least, but you don't see me posting crap about the government in the UK, or the Netherlands, or in like Mexico or that kind of crap. It'd be better to get more intellegent responses in these threads other than

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Multiple posters wrote:[/QUOTENAME] Bush is evil...Bush is the worst American president...[Bush's] Nazi regime...[/QUOTE]

So TQ...shut up for at least a little while about your grievances having to do with a country thousands of miles away from you. That goes for some of the other posters here from the UK or from other far away regions.[/QUOTE]

Well, the US invaded Iraq. First it was for weapons of mass destruction. When they could find these, they brought up the dictatorship thingie by Saddam. Yet, you say that it is not reasonable to judge a country from "abroad". Then how the hell could you explain annihilating a whole country, based on the same arguments?

Smitty, the USA are the only super power. They are dangerous for every other country when someone like Bush is in office.

Last week German born Murat Kurnaz was sent home from Guantanamo bay prison after almost 5 years imprisonment for no reason.

He was kidnapped by the Bush regime in Pakistan shortly after the 9/11 attacks. He was only 19 years old and had just finished his education. He was taken to Guantanamo bay and tortured there for 5 years,

- he could see his American lawyer 5 times in 5 years
- no charge was ever filed against him, nor did he ever see a judge
- not a single piece of evidence was ever shown to justify his imprisonment
- he was not allowed to see anybody apart from the 5 visits of his lawyer.
- he was kept in a cage with artificial light day and night and never could talk to anybody.
- he was returned after endless negotiations with the German government in an airplane with his eyes blind folded and his body chained to the floor. He needs medical care and trauma therapy, his life was ruined.

The German government had to sign a paper assuring they would respect his human rights before he was sent home, what a joke!

How can you say it's not our business? The most powerful country in the world disregards the most basic human rights but has the ribaldry to call other nations "rogue countries" and threatens them with war!

I am a peaceful person and never raised my hand against anybody in my whole life. But I feel the anger rising in me with each new incident I hear, I feel the shame about not doing enough against this outrage and I tell you one thing:

There are thousands of Murats in this world - people being bombed, killed, arrested, humiliated, tortured, - and they all have families and friends and their anger must be ten times as bad as mine and they are not peaceful. It does not need islamic propaganda to make them "fighters in a holy war" or something - it's the Bush regime that creates thousands of new terrorists each day and it's our fault when we close our eyes and do not fight against injustice when we have the chance - in our own country!

I fully agree Barbara.. We shouldn't close our eyes. Still we're quite powerless. Bush is revoted, and has the power for the coming years.

Btw.. I'm quite ashamed of the way my country supports Bush's regime. That might be a good reason to vote for another party with the coming elections. Maybe a little pressure from other countries might help.

This little CIA prison thingy is nothing compared to other stuff they are holding back.
Face it, the people will never ever know what's really going on. We get mad at the terrorists and people who try to stop this demon called America (or other regimes), but are they wrong? Sure they use the wrong way to put a stop to it, but they do it for a reason. We don't know what's going on in the backrooms of world politics. There is some real injustice going on and the world needs to know what. Because if this continues, people just get pissed at minorities/eachother, while they should be looking at the leaders of the world who are deceiving us peeps with their puppets in the media.

I really wish that Bush would just leave, because everyone knows that he's just making the problems worse in the future. But he won't. He's too stubborn of a man to leave on his own, arrogant enough to not give a rats behind about what other countries think, and the people here who oppose him don't hold a big enough sway in the Congress to evict him from office. Like it or not, the world is stuck with him at least until 2008. But that's what makes him dangerous....he actually believes that what he's doing is right, and will not be told otherwise. Blind obidience to any cause like that is very dangerous, whether it be an ideal you come up with, or a person, or God or whatever. He won't be swayed, because he honestly believes he's right. He'll probably never know just a wrong he is (and sure as hell he'll never admit it, if he does figure it out).