Barcelona album 5.1

Sorry - not an announce, but does anyone (Adam - you seem to be the pro around here) fancy using all the available elements to come up with a decent 5.1 mix of the album?

All we'd really need done are the tracks NOT on the DVD...

Does anyone have the software to create a dts track as opposed to a dolby dig 5.1?

You can only make attempts but you will end up with something which is miles and miles away from a real 5.1 mix.

Of course it'll not be as good as a proper one as you'd need individual elements, but there are a couple of good 5.1 dts cds out there of DATR and SHA done by a fan.
There's also a Q2, but that's got a few problems...

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]freddie lives wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Of course it'll not be as good as a proper one as you'd need individual elements, but there are a couple of good 5.1 dts cds out there of DATR and SHA done by a fan.
There's also a Q2, but that's got a few problems...

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I'm very interested in DATR 5.1. Any clues as to where I might find it?

http://www.mininova.org/tor/362003
here you go heres the link ,

http://www.mininova.org/tor/354917
and this ones the sheer heart attack , all done by a fan , its a dts upmix

How many conversations do i have to have with some of these users here?? You CANNOT make a 5.1 mix WITHOUT the MULTI-TRACK RECORDING!!!! It is as simple as that! Please quit labeling these multi-layered tracks as 5.1 mixes.

these links are for 5.0 dts upmix , they have used a software to make these , which takes around 15 mins a track , i like them , its better than nothing , and the roger taylor fun in space dts upmix is great , simple really if you dont like them , dont get them

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]father to my son wrote: [/QUOTENAME]these links are for 5.0 dts upmix , they have used a software to make these , which takes around 15 mins a track , i like them , its better than nothing , and the roger taylor fun in space dts upmix is great , simple really if you dont like them , dont get them [/QUOTE]

That's fine, then people who do not have the knowledge of Studio and mixing audio shouldn't label these as 5.1 mixes.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]father to my son wrote: [/QUOTENAME]these links are for 5.0 dts upmix , they have used a software to make these , which takes around 15 mins a track , i like them , its better than nothing , and the roger taylor fun in space dts upmix is great , simple really if you dont like them , dont get them [/QUOTE]

That's fine, then people who do not have the knowledge of Studio and mixing audio shouldn't label these as 5.1 mixes.[/QUOTE]

Wrong sonny! I happen to be someone who does know a fair bit about audio processing, and I say if I take a stereo recording and add 4 tracks of white noise, it's still a 5.1 mix. Whether or not the result is listenable is a different discussion entirely. I am just being curious what it sounds like, that's all. By the way, which studio do you work at?

here, here , like i said before , if you dont like them , dont download them , fireplace tell me what you think about them

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fireplace wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]father to my son wrote: [/QUOTENAME]these links are for 5.0 dts upmix , they have used a software to make these , which takes around 15 mins a track , i like them , its better than nothing , and the roger taylor fun in space dts upmix is great , simple really if you dont like them , dont get them [/QUOTE]

That's fine, then people who do not have the knowledge of Studio and mixing audio shouldn't label these as 5.1 mixes.[/QUOTE]

Wrong sonny! I happen to be someone who does know a fair bit about audio processing, and I say if I take a stereo recording and add 4 tracks of white noise, it's still a 5.1 mix. Whether or not the result is listenable is a different discussion entirely. I am just being curious what it sounds like, that's all. By the way, which studio do you work at? [/QUOTE]

And you have made a fool out of yourself! If you do not have the MULTI-TRACK recording, you cannot create a true 5.1 mix. It is like taking an old VHS and converting it to dvd. You cannot create quality that is simply not there from the original. You may mask it and make it sound better, or copy certain parts or tracks in to the others to make it seem 5.1, but technically you cannot creat a true 5.1 mix without multi-tracks. lol funny that you ask what studio i work at! lol Actually my dad owns and operates a recording studio, and 2 of my friends are Studio pros who work for a company called "Live Technology" and i have another friend who works for a Studio down in L.A. plus i am a musician and i have taken studio recording/mixing classes in High School and college, and own my own recording equipment and software, mixing equipment, and i have recorded around 20 bands since 2 years ago. But that doesn't matter, the fact is what it is.

Crezchi.
Stop being such an ARSE.
Nobody is disputing the fact that these aren't made using the multi track master tapes and they won't be as good as if they were made by using said master tapes, BUT someone has put in a lot of work messing about with frequencies and bringing background instruments into the foreground and isolating various sounds as best as possible to create a surround mix that is as good as you will get without the using multi track master tapes.

Anyway - if bloody Queen themselves can bang out a live DVD that has been "upmixed" to produce sounds that eminate from 5 speakers and a subwoofer AND then call it a 5.1 mix, then so can we!!!

Now then, Father To Son. I've been waiting for that Fun in space surround dts cd - have you a link please!!??

Thanks,

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fireplace wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]father to my son wrote: [/QUOTENAME]these links are for 5.0 dts upmix , they have used a software to make these , which takes around 15 mins a track , i like them , its better than nothing , and the roger taylor fun in space dts upmix is great , simple really if you dont like them , dont get them [/QUOTE]

That's fine, then people who do not have the knowledge of Studio and mixing audio shouldn't label these as 5.1 mixes.[/QUOTE]

Wrong sonny! I happen to be someone who does know a fair bit about audio processing, and I say if I take a stereo recording and add 4 tracks of white noise, it's still a 5.1 mix. Whether or not the result is listenable is a different discussion entirely. I am just being curious what it sounds like, that's all. By the way, which studio do you work at? [/QUOTE]

And you have made a fool out of yourself! If you do not have the MULTI-TRACK recording, you cannot create a true 5.1 mix. It is like taking an old VHS and converting it to dvd. You cannot create quality that is simply not there from the original. You may mask it and make it sound better, or copy certain parts or tracks in to the others to make it seem 5.1, but technically you cannot creat a true 5.1 mix without multi-tracks. lol funny that you ask what studio i work at! lol Actually my dad owns and operates a recording studio, and 2 of my friends are Studio pros who work for a company called "Live Technology" and i have another friend who works for a Studio down in L.A. plus i am a musician and i have taken studio recording/mixing classes in High School and college, and own my own recording equipment and software, mixing equipment, and i have recorded around 20 bands since 2 years ago. But that doesn't matter, the fact is what it is.[/QUOTE]

Man, why get so worked up over it? Just relax, this is a fan mix forum after all.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]freddie lives wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Crezchi.
Stop being such an ARSE.
Nobody is disputing the fact that these aren't made using the multi track master tapes and they won't be as good as if they were made by using said master tapes, BUT someone has put in a lot of work messing about with frequencies and bringing background instruments into the foreground and isolating various sounds as best as possible to create a surround mix that is as good as you will get without the using multi track master tapes.

Anyway - if bloody Queen themselves can bang out a live DVD that has been "upmixed" to produce sounds that eminate from 5 speakers and a subwoofer AND then call it a 5.1 mix, then so can we!!!

Now then, Father To Son. I've been waiting for that Fun in space surround dts cd - have you a link please!!??

Thanks,[/QUOTE]


First, i am not an ARSE, i have one just like you. lol But i am NOT trying to cause problems, it's just that when this other person(s) claim they can make a true 5.1 mix without the Multi-Track recording, it gets under my skin because it is impossible! I appreciate these FAN mixes, even if they are not true 5.1, but i just think there shouldn't be a label on them for something they are not, that way everyone knows what they are.