Barcelona album 5.1

For someone who is such a genius you sure read badly. Anything containing six separate audio channels is true 5.1, even it's the same mono channel six times over. You can choose to have 6 different tracks on 6 channels, or the same track with slight EQ differences, it's still 5.1.

On most older live music DVD's you only hear the audience and a bit of reverb in the rear speakers.
Whether or not you approve of that is completely irrelevant, although I agree that fan mixers shouldn't try to pass it off as the genuine thing. For the record, in this case nobody did.

Perhaps you ought to be a bit careful who you call a fool, I might still come and collect my copy of Sunbury 1974.

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Maybe these so called surround mixes do the same technique as the quadrophonic or whatever it's called sets do.

They make an out of phase signal from the original stereo signal and put in the 2 speakers in the back

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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Maybe these so called surround mixes do the same technique as the quadrophonic or whatever it's called sets do.

They make an out of phase signal from the original stereo signal and put in the 2 speakers in the back[/QUOTE]

Mostly, yes. Unless an album was specifically made for quadrophonic systems, they did that for a short while in the 70's (Pink Floyd!). The reason stereo was the accepted standard for so long, is that fact that human beings have two ears. What the industry forgot is that people hear in 360 degrees, so the use of more than two channels is not a waste.

For live amplification quadrophonics didn't work. The idea was to have two channels front and two channels rear, but in large stadiums the people at the back only heard the rear speakers, thereby missing out on roughly half the sound.

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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fireplace wrote: [/QUOTENAME]For someone who is such a genius you sure read badly. Anything containing six separate audio channels is true 5.1, even it's the same mono channel six times over. You can choose to have 6 different tracks on 6 channels, or the same track with slight EQ differences, it's still 5.1.

On most older live music DVD's you only hear the audience and a bit of reverb in the rear speakers.
Whether or not you approve of that is completely irrelevant, although I agree that fan mixers shouldn't try to pass it off as the genuine thing. For the record, in this case nobody did.

Perhaps you ought to be a bit careful who you call a fool, I might still come and collect my copy of Sunbury 1974.[/QUOTE]

You are missing the whole point of true 5.1! Go ahead beliving what you want, i don't care. lol
Yeah come collect a copy of Sunbury 74! I never said that i had this, so won't you be in disapointment? And maybe while you are here i can drive you over to my friends recording company and show you how it is really done? lol Have a nice day there buddy.

SOUNDS LIKE SHIT ANYWAYS
constructive crictism , NOT

first point , have you heard the roger taylor fun in space dts upmix , and 2nd dont get them if you dont like them , peace .

Get the entire point everyone? These are NOT real 5.1 mixes

did not say they were , they were done by a fan , calm down and get a grip young man

I have download the 5.1 mix of ADATR from Mininova but I have a problem... I can't hear! Why? I must burn on a dvd or a cd? I can hear this album on the pc or only on a dvd player?

Cheers
Ale

http://groups.google.com/group/SurroundSound
this might help you

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]father to my son wrote: [/QUOTENAME]http://groups.google.com/group/SurroundSound
this might help you [/QUOTE]

Thanks!

Right... well. The original premise is certainly possible whereby you would basically be upmixing to 5.1. Yes, believe it or not, 5.1. It's unfair to say to these people making them that they are not creating true mixes. They are, in a way. And as someone correctly pointed out, Spread Your Wings on the first GVH dvd is upmixed. And there are plenty of other similar examples on the market.

When you upmix a stereo track like something from Barcelona, you'll find that there are certain instruments mixed into the track that unfold into the rears. This is a real effect that is similar to how Dolby Surround (DS) films are made. Those DS films are basically stereo tracks with certain phase information that can be decoded into the surround channels. Not to mention, center and subwoofer channels too.
Because of the way some music is mixed, this decoding can actually work really well with certain music mixes. Hence why there are people here that say this Fun In Space albums sounds really good. Or maybe, these mixes have also been altered by the mix-er(!) to create certain effects like someone here has also said.


So, all I'm saying is that these 5.1 mixes should be seen as as close to legit surround mixes as can be. They may not be discrete channel mixes like the official dvda releases. But they do what they set out to do. Therefore, they ARE 5.1 mixes. And anyone's opinion on them being false is theirs and theirs alone. In other words, no point trying to spoil people's fun.

Adam.

Well, I've got the software now to create 5.1 mixes from a stereo track. I've tested it on a number of songs including: Another World, Mustapha, Back To The Light, It's A Sin and the theme tune to the Tripods.

It seems to work better with synthesizer music in that you get obvious elements that come from the rears that aren't as obvious on the fronts - whoosing noises for example - probably because there is less going on than in a Queen recording!
Tripods sounds amazing!

Mustapha is also great as you get the songs starting off at the front as you would expect, but then the software is clever enough to transfer Brian's electric guitar sound to the rears on the couple of occasions that that kicks in during the track.

Basically what seems to be happening is that the front speakers contain the normal sound you'd hear on a stereo mix, but then the rears output the least amount of lead vocal possible (works better on some tracks than others) with things like backing guitar and cow bells and drum stick tapping being more noticable than before.
The centre speaker is obviously the vocals, but there is a bit of low level instrumentation there as well.
In effect, the whole sound now seems more spaced out.

All in all, I love this software and I'll be doing all the solo stuff first before moving onto the queen albums, 12", b sides etc.
It's going to take a while, but if folks are interested I can always make torrents available...