Oh, sure. That's why they have an ambulance and medical crew standing by at each school for gym class. That way they can carry you off in a stretcher when you get a rope burn or skinned knee, and they can x-ray your wrists after you play volley ball. I used to love getting packed down with ice after a long game of kick ball. It was so refreshing. And the oxygen came in handy just before math tests. Of course anyone that got major pain killers from the medical team were lucky - it got them exempt from using anything sharp or hot in the science lab. Those were the good old days.
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Football injuries caused by the constant head bumping kill thousands of brain cells.
Which explains why football players are so dumb.
Which explains why football players are so dumb.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Oh, sure. That's why they have an ambulance and medical crew standing by at each school for gym class. That way they can carry you off in a stretcher when you get a rope burn or skinned knee, and they can x-ray your wrists after you play volley ball. I used to love getting packed down with ice after a long game of kick ball. It was so refreshing. And the oxygen came in handy just before math tests. Of course anyone that got major pain killers from the medical team were lucky - it got them exempt from using anything sharp or hot in the science lab. Those were the good old days.[/QUOTE]
But you're making two assumptions:
1) Getting carried off in a stretcher, getting packed down with ice, etc. are indicative of a serious injury.
2) These activities are commonplace, and a player is bound to go through them.
Medical standby is likely there (if at all) for legal reasons. And as we all know, legal reasons do not always qualify as real reasons.
As for me, I've played hockey since I was young, and have ski raced all through high school. And the biggest problem I ever faced was fatigue.
But you're making two assumptions:
1) Getting carried off in a stretcher, getting packed down with ice, etc. are indicative of a serious injury.
2) These activities are commonplace, and a player is bound to go through them.
Medical standby is likely there (if at all) for legal reasons. And as we all know, legal reasons do not always qualify as real reasons.
As for me, I've played hockey since I was young, and have ski raced all through high school. And the biggest problem I ever faced was fatigue.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Oh, sure. That's why they have an ambulance and medical crew standing by at each school for gym class. That way they can carry you off in a stretcher when you get a rope burn or skinned knee, and they can x-ray your wrists after you play volley ball. I used to love getting packed down with ice after a long game of kick ball. It was so refreshing. And the oxygen came in handy just before math tests. Of course anyone that got major pain killers from the medical team were lucky - it got them exempt from using anything sharp or hot in the science lab. Those were the good old days.[/QUOTE]
But you're making two assumptions:
1) Getting carried off in a stretcher, getting packed down with ice, etc. are indicative of a serious injury.
2) These activities are commonplace, and a player is bound to go through them.
Medical standby is likely there (if at all) for legal reasons. And as we all know, legal reasons do not always qualify as real reasons.
As for me, I've played hockey since I was young, and have ski raced all through high school. And the biggest problem I ever faced was fatigue.[/QUOTE]
Excellent points, MusicMan. That is the reason they have medical personnel on standby. You might see them take a player off the field in a stretcher, and automatically assume "Serious Injury!!!" That's the way it's done, it's to be over-cautious. 90 percent of the time those players are just fine, and walk away under their own power, with nothing wrong with them at all, but you never see that. All you see are the ones that wind up in the hospital for days because it's like a second viewing. It's all policy, and even the players can't argue with it.
When I got hit by a car on my bike my Freshmen year here at CMU, I tried to tell the paramedics that I was fine and didn't need the hospital, but they didn't give me a choice, even though I was a legal adult...they make me go anyway. Same principle applies, moreso because the athelets are minors. BTW...your brain doesn't automatically change when you hit 18 to make you suddenly be responsible, so delaying the decision to play sports until adulthood makes no sense. It's about maturity, not age. Don't shelter the kids for their whole lives...you're doing them a disservice in the long run.
But you're making two assumptions:
1) Getting carried off in a stretcher, getting packed down with ice, etc. are indicative of a serious injury.
2) These activities are commonplace, and a player is bound to go through them.
Medical standby is likely there (if at all) for legal reasons. And as we all know, legal reasons do not always qualify as real reasons.
As for me, I've played hockey since I was young, and have ski raced all through high school. And the biggest problem I ever faced was fatigue.[/QUOTE]
Excellent points, MusicMan. That is the reason they have medical personnel on standby. You might see them take a player off the field in a stretcher, and automatically assume "Serious Injury!!!" That's the way it's done, it's to be over-cautious. 90 percent of the time those players are just fine, and walk away under their own power, with nothing wrong with them at all, but you never see that. All you see are the ones that wind up in the hospital for days because it's like a second viewing. It's all policy, and even the players can't argue with it.
When I got hit by a car on my bike my Freshmen year here at CMU, I tried to tell the paramedics that I was fine and didn't need the hospital, but they didn't give me a choice, even though I was a legal adult...they make me go anyway. Same principle applies, moreso because the athelets are minors. BTW...your brain doesn't automatically change when you hit 18 to make you suddenly be responsible, so delaying the decision to play sports until adulthood makes no sense. It's about maturity, not age. Don't shelter the kids for their whole lives...you're doing them a disservice in the long run.
Wow! CMU HistoryGirl. I'm glad you were OK after getting hit by that car. I got hit by a car once while walking across the street in DC! I think the guy was on drugs or something and he hit the gas instead of the break. I ended up on the hood of the car, bounced off to the pavement, got up, was fine, insured the driver that I was fine (he had a blank stare), and then he just drove off. I'll never forget that day.
Anyway, for those of you who are interested (I just looked this up today).
http://www.neurosurgerytoday.org/what/patient_e/sports.asp
It seems that CMU HistoryGirl was doing the most dangerous of all the activities! LOL. Of course hockey would probably be much higher, Music Man, if more people played. Skiing too. However, those are very cool sports (in more ways than just the temperature - ha). And Mr. Jingles is right: bumps to the head can cause loss of brain power it seems. And I was wrong about basketball (you were right 1/2Microwave) - looks like it is near the top of the list!
Anyway, Music Man, I once went to a hockey game in Toronto and I agree that the action is so fast - it is not easy to always see where the puck is! (For the audience I mean).
Now, 1/2Microwave, I appreciate that everyone gets excited about football in Texas and Oklahoma. They do here too (Virginia) - it fills up 1/2 of the local newspapers. I bet a lot of kids end up playing football because there is a lot of community (and high school) pressure to do it - not because it is the perfect sport for them. What about the ones who have great skills for hockey or skiing, or tennis or golf, but are "forced" into football by a football crazed society?
Anyway, for those of you who are interested (I just looked this up today).
http://www.neurosurgerytoday.org/what/patient_e/sports.asp
It seems that CMU HistoryGirl was doing the most dangerous of all the activities! LOL. Of course hockey would probably be much higher, Music Man, if more people played. Skiing too. However, those are very cool sports (in more ways than just the temperature - ha). And Mr. Jingles is right: bumps to the head can cause loss of brain power it seems. And I was wrong about basketball (you were right 1/2Microwave) - looks like it is near the top of the list!
Anyway, Music Man, I once went to a hockey game in Toronto and I agree that the action is so fast - it is not easy to always see where the puck is! (For the audience I mean).
Now, 1/2Microwave, I appreciate that everyone gets excited about football in Texas and Oklahoma. They do here too (Virginia) - it fills up 1/2 of the local newspapers. I bet a lot of kids end up playing football because there is a lot of community (and high school) pressure to do it - not because it is the perfect sport for them. What about the ones who have great skills for hockey or skiing, or tennis or golf, but are "forced" into football by a football crazed society?
Football sucks.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Now, 1/2Microwave, I appreciate that everyone gets excited about football in Texas and Oklahoma. They do here too (Virginia) - it fills up 1/2 of the local newspapers. I bet a lot of kids end up playing football because there is a lot of community (and high school) pressure to do it - not because it is the perfect sport for them. What about the ones who have great skills for hockey or skiing, or tennis or golf, but are "forced" into football by a football crazed society?[/QUOTE]
Well, lets look at how much money Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc. (THE TOP COLLEGES IN AMERICA) set aside for Skiing, Hockey, Tennis, and Golf. Hmmmm... combined it's not even 1/10th of what Football is. And that's not just Texas, that's America.
So you have WAY better a chance of scoring a scholarship in Football than any other sport, period. There are minor execptions. Duke, for example doesn't put football #1. But they don't put education #1 either... it's basketball.
Learning more about you in your posts, though, I see why you would be against your kids participating in anything physical. So please, don't take offense, it's a great conversation!
Well, lets look at how much money Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc. (THE TOP COLLEGES IN AMERICA) set aside for Skiing, Hockey, Tennis, and Golf. Hmmmm... combined it's not even 1/10th of what Football is. And that's not just Texas, that's America.
So you have WAY better a chance of scoring a scholarship in Football than any other sport, period. There are minor execptions. Duke, for example doesn't put football #1. But they don't put education #1 either... it's basketball.
Learning more about you in your posts, though, I see why you would be against your kids participating in anything physical. So please, don't take offense, it's a great conversation!
I don't have kids! And you obviously have missed my points entirely. Oh, well, 1/2Microwave, just think - tonight is Monday night football.
I know!!! Philly vs Green Bay. My football pants are going crazy!
I think this is the year for Five. Favre will put on a good show, but McNabb is on fire. I think the defense will be fine without Jevon Kearse. They play an 8 man rotation, so fresh legs should be available throughout the game. I predict 2 sacks for Trent Cole on Favre.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I do question whether a young kid should be making that kind of decision.[/QUOTE]
This was your point? That and parents forcing their kids into something, right?
My point is 14 or 15 years old is old enough for a kid to make choices for himself. And he shouldn't be persuaded by an over protecting parent or interest group.
I think this is the year for Five. Favre will put on a good show, but McNabb is on fire. I think the defense will be fine without Jevon Kearse. They play an 8 man rotation, so fresh legs should be available throughout the game. I predict 2 sacks for Trent Cole on Favre.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I do question whether a young kid should be making that kind of decision.[/QUOTE]
This was your point? That and parents forcing their kids into something, right?
My point is 14 or 15 years old is old enough for a kid to make choices for himself. And he shouldn't be persuaded by an over protecting parent or interest group.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]½Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I know!!! Philly vs Green Bay. My football pants are going crazy!
I think this is the year for Five. Favre will put on a good show, but McNabb is on fire. I think the defense will be fine without Jevon Kearse. They play an 8 man rotation, so fresh legs should be available throughout the game. I predict 2 sacks for Trent Cole on Favre.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I do question whether a young kid should be making that kind of decision.[/QUOTE]
This was your point? That and parents forcing their kids into something, right?
My point is 14 or 15 years old is old enough for a kid to make choices for himself. And he shouldn't be persuaded by an over protecting parent or interest group.[/QUOTE]
Yah. I guess that is my point. Nobody ever told me what to do as a 14 year old. So I understand your point also.
But I actually think the bulk of persuasion being received by anyone is on the side of "play football". I also think the issue of control bothers me. An adult (coach) telling a kid, "OK, now go in there and block him like this". I'd much rather see people have control over their own destiny (like soccer or hockey).
And then once they get started on the football track there is a lot of pressure to continue (not just for monetary reasons, but those are enough). I guess that was where I was drawing the similarity with the young models. Both seem like things you would get "sucked" into. Money, glamour, but also risk to the body that other people are benefitting from.
Anyway, have fun with your game tonight. I hope you have plenty of spicy food on hand or at least some spicy Doritos! I predict 2 interceptions by the Eagles.
I think this is the year for Five. Favre will put on a good show, but McNabb is on fire. I think the defense will be fine without Jevon Kearse. They play an 8 man rotation, so fresh legs should be available throughout the game. I predict 2 sacks for Trent Cole on Favre.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I do question whether a young kid should be making that kind of decision.[/QUOTE]
This was your point? That and parents forcing their kids into something, right?
My point is 14 or 15 years old is old enough for a kid to make choices for himself. And he shouldn't be persuaded by an over protecting parent or interest group.[/QUOTE]
Yah. I guess that is my point. Nobody ever told me what to do as a 14 year old. So I understand your point also.
But I actually think the bulk of persuasion being received by anyone is on the side of "play football". I also think the issue of control bothers me. An adult (coach) telling a kid, "OK, now go in there and block him like this". I'd much rather see people have control over their own destiny (like soccer or hockey).
And then once they get started on the football track there is a lot of pressure to continue (not just for monetary reasons, but those are enough). I guess that was where I was drawing the similarity with the young models. Both seem like things you would get "sucked" into. Money, glamour, but also risk to the body that other people are benefitting from.
Anyway, have fun with your game tonight. I hope you have plenty of spicy food on hand or at least some spicy Doritos! I predict 2 interceptions by the Eagles.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME] I hope you have plenty of spicy food on hand or at least some spicy Doritos! I predict 2 interceptions by the Eagles.[/QUOTE]
Mexican restaurant 3 blocks from my house! I order enchiladas and queso for the 3 of us whenever the Feared and Dreaded play on Monday night.
I certainly hope your prediction comes true, but something is telling me that Brett may pull the game of his life out. We've beaten him the last 4 times and McNabb is lights out on Monday night. Plus all the Favre retirement talk... I think we're in for a much better game than appears on paper.
God I love how a modelling(yuk) thread got us talking about tonight's game. Serves them skinny girls right!
Mexican restaurant 3 blocks from my house! I order enchiladas and queso for the 3 of us whenever the Feared and Dreaded play on Monday night.
I certainly hope your prediction comes true, but something is telling me that Brett may pull the game of his life out. We've beaten him the last 4 times and McNabb is lights out on Monday night. Plus all the Favre retirement talk... I think we're in for a much better game than appears on paper.
God I love how a modelling(yuk) thread got us talking about tonight's game. Serves them skinny girls right!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Wow! CMU HistoryGirl. I'm glad you were OK after getting hit by that car. I got hit by a car once while walking across the street in DC! I think the guy was on drugs or something and he hit the gas instead of the break. I ended up on the hood of the car, bounced off to the pavement, got up, was fine, insured the driver that I was fine (he had a blank stare), and then he just drove off. I'll never forget that day.
Anyway, for those of you who are interested (I just looked this up today).
http://www.neurosurgerytoday.org/what/patient_e/sports.asp
It seems that CMU HistoryGirl was doing the most dangerous of all the activities! LOL. Of course hockey would probably be much higher, Music Man, if more people played. Skiing too. However, those are very cool sports (in more ways than just the temperature - ha). And Mr. Jingles is right: bumps to the head can cause loss of brain power it seems. And I was wrong about basketball (you were right 1/2Microwave) - looks like it is near the top of the list!
Anyway, Music Man, I once went to a hockey game in Toronto and I agree that the action is so fast - it is not easy to always see where the puck is! (For the audience I mean).
Now, 1/2Microwave, I appreciate that everyone gets excited about football in Texas and Oklahoma. They do here too (Virginia) - it fills up 1/2 of the local newspapers. I bet a lot of kids end up playing football because there is a lot of community (and high school) pressure to do it - not because it is the perfect sport for them. What about the ones who have great skills for hockey or skiing, or tennis or golf, but are "forced" into football by a football crazed society?[/QUOTE]
Thanks Donna....I'm glad I'm ok to.
Yeah, I was being a bit stupid at the time, but I didn't have much of a choice. I'd just moved off campus (about 3 miles from at the time) and I had no car. All I had was my bike, and I'd just gotten out of a night class (It was 9:30pm in November, so pitch black). I was riding back to my apartment, when I got to a corner where a guy was waiting to go through the light. There was no light for me, so we both hesitated, not knowing who should go first. In the end, we both went at the same time, and he hit the back wheel of my bike, sending me flying through the air and landing on the pavement in the left turn lane. Ambulance got called, all that stuff. I was ok, scratched up and sore and all that, but ok even though they made me go to the hospital. To be honest, I was more worried about the 3 year old they had in the back seat of the car seeing it happen! Good thing I had the brain capacity to think, as I was flying through the air, to hold out my hands when I hit so I didn't hit my head on the pavement when I landed, or things could have been much worse.
Anyway, for those of you who are interested (I just looked this up today).
http://www.neurosurgerytoday.org/what/patient_e/sports.asp
It seems that CMU HistoryGirl was doing the most dangerous of all the activities! LOL. Of course hockey would probably be much higher, Music Man, if more people played. Skiing too. However, those are very cool sports (in more ways than just the temperature - ha). And Mr. Jingles is right: bumps to the head can cause loss of brain power it seems. And I was wrong about basketball (you were right 1/2Microwave) - looks like it is near the top of the list!
Anyway, Music Man, I once went to a hockey game in Toronto and I agree that the action is so fast - it is not easy to always see where the puck is! (For the audience I mean).
Now, 1/2Microwave, I appreciate that everyone gets excited about football in Texas and Oklahoma. They do here too (Virginia) - it fills up 1/2 of the local newspapers. I bet a lot of kids end up playing football because there is a lot of community (and high school) pressure to do it - not because it is the perfect sport for them. What about the ones who have great skills for hockey or skiing, or tennis or golf, but are "forced" into football by a football crazed society?[/QUOTE]
Thanks Donna....I'm glad I'm ok to.
Yeah, I was being a bit stupid at the time, but I didn't have much of a choice. I'd just moved off campus (about 3 miles from at the time) and I had no car. All I had was my bike, and I'd just gotten out of a night class (It was 9:30pm in November, so pitch black). I was riding back to my apartment, when I got to a corner where a guy was waiting to go through the light. There was no light for me, so we both hesitated, not knowing who should go first. In the end, we both went at the same time, and he hit the back wheel of my bike, sending me flying through the air and landing on the pavement in the left turn lane. Ambulance got called, all that stuff. I was ok, scratched up and sore and all that, but ok even though they made me go to the hospital. To be honest, I was more worried about the 3 year old they had in the back seat of the car seeing it happen! Good thing I had the brain capacity to think, as I was flying through the air, to hold out my hands when I hit so I didn't hit my head on the pavement when I landed, or things could have been much worse.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]½Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc. (THE TOP COLLEGES IN AMERICA)[/QUOTE]
No.
I don't think anyone would consider SMU a "top" college. It's okay at best. There is no school with the word "Texas" in it that even hints at being a good school. University of Michigan - Ann Arbor is a decent school, as opposed to the outstandingly mediocre Michigan State University. USC is another decent school, like Ann Arbor. Tennessee is another school that's mediocre at best.
Now, if you wanted something like the top colleges in America (and the world), then let me help you:
Amherst
Brown
CalTech
Chicago
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Georgetown
Harvard
Haverford
Middlebury
MIT
Olin
Pomona
Princeton
Rice
Stanford
Swarthmore
UPenn
Washington University in St. Louis
Williams
Yale
If you're thinking about naming one of the top colleges of America, you're thinking about naming one of those.
"Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc." are just okay in comparison.
Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc. (THE TOP COLLEGES IN AMERICA)[/QUOTE]
No.
I don't think anyone would consider SMU a "top" college. It's okay at best. There is no school with the word "Texas" in it that even hints at being a good school. University of Michigan - Ann Arbor is a decent school, as opposed to the outstandingly mediocre Michigan State University. USC is another decent school, like Ann Arbor. Tennessee is another school that's mediocre at best.
Now, if you wanted something like the top colleges in America (and the world), then let me help you:
Amherst
Brown
CalTech
Chicago
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Georgetown
Harvard
Haverford
Middlebury
MIT
Olin
Pomona
Princeton
Rice
Stanford
Swarthmore
UPenn
Washington University in St. Louis
Williams
Yale
If you're thinking about naming one of the top colleges of America, you're thinking about naming one of those.
"Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc." are just okay in comparison.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]½Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc. (THE TOP COLLEGES IN AMERICA)[/QUOTE]
No.
I don't think anyone would consider SMU a "top" college. It's okay at best. There is no school with the word "Texas" in it that even hints at being a good school. University of Michigan - Ann Arbor is a decent school, as opposed to the outstandingly mediocre Michigan State University. USC is another decent school, like Ann Arbor. Tennessee is another school that's mediocre at best.
Now, if you wanted something like the top colleges in America (and the world), then let me help you:
Amherst
Brown
CalTech
Chicago
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Georgetown
Harvard
Haverford
Middlebury
MIT
Olin
Pomona
Princeton
Rice
Stanford
Swarthmore
UPenn
Washington University in St. Louis
Williams
Yale
If you're thinking about naming one of the top colleges of America, you're thinking about naming one of those.
"Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc." are just okay in comparison.[/QUOTE]
Um, I think he meant the schools with the top athletic teams...not for academics.
Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc. (THE TOP COLLEGES IN AMERICA)[/QUOTE]
No.
I don't think anyone would consider SMU a "top" college. It's okay at best. There is no school with the word "Texas" in it that even hints at being a good school. University of Michigan - Ann Arbor is a decent school, as opposed to the outstandingly mediocre Michigan State University. USC is another decent school, like Ann Arbor. Tennessee is another school that's mediocre at best.
Now, if you wanted something like the top colleges in America (and the world), then let me help you:
Amherst
Brown
CalTech
Chicago
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Georgetown
Harvard
Haverford
Middlebury
MIT
Olin
Pomona
Princeton
Rice
Stanford
Swarthmore
UPenn
Washington University in St. Louis
Williams
Yale
If you're thinking about naming one of the top colleges of America, you're thinking about naming one of those.
"Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc." are just okay in comparison.[/QUOTE]
Um, I think he meant the schools with the top athletic teams...not for academics.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Um, I think he meant the schools with the top athletic teams...not for academics. [/QUOTE]
"Top College" always means academics unless one says "Top Sports College." 'Tis my take on the matter.
Um, I think he meant the schools with the top athletic teams...not for academics. [/QUOTE]
"Top College" always means academics unless one says "Top Sports College." 'Tis my take on the matter.