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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]½Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc. (THE TOP COLLEGES IN AMERICA)[/QUOTE]

No.

I don't think anyone would consider SMU a "top" college. It's okay at best. There is no school with the word "Texas" in it that even hints at being a good school. University of Michigan - Ann Arbor is a decent school, as opposed to the outstandingly mediocre Michigan State University. USC is another decent school, like Ann Arbor. Tennessee is another school that's mediocre at best.

Now, if you wanted something like the top colleges in America (and the world), then let me help you:

Amherst
Brown
CalTech
Chicago
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Georgetown
Harvard
Haverford
Middlebury
MIT
Olin
Pomona
Princeton
Rice
Stanford
Swarthmore
UPenn
Washington University in St. Louis
Williams
Yale

If you're thinking about naming one of the top colleges of America, you're thinking about naming one of those.

"Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc." are just okay in comparison.[/QUOTE]

Um, I think he meant the schools with the top athletic teams...not for academics. [/QUOTE]

Fuck all those schools!
Here's a list of the top party schools.


Indiana University - Bloomington

Clemson University

University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa

Penn State University Park

University of Florida

SUNY at Buffalo

University of New Hampshire

University of Colorado, Boulder

Florida State University

University of Wisconsin-Madison

The University of Texas at Austin

Michigan State University

University of Michigan-Ann Arbor

Louisiana State University

University of California-Santa Cruz

University of Tennessee

New York University

Ohio State University-Columbus

Virginia Tech

Tulane University
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Brandon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]... and now the "best you can offer is Mr. Jingles? HA! He's... just pathetic.[/QUOTE]
To some degree.. If that makes sence?

I think the whole idea of super skinny supermodels has gone totally out of controll.. Since when should it be a beauty-ideal to be unhealthy?
But on the other hand, I think that it is okay that there is Some skinny (not too skinny, though) models on the catwalks.. And I think so because there IS girls who is skinny, and cant do anything about it, and it would be discriminatng to bann skinny models totally..

It has always been what the "unreachable" that has been popular.. Decades ago, a girl with some pounds too much where a beautyideal, and that was back in a time where most people where too skinny.

But there should be as many chubby girls on the catwalks as skinny, and personally I perfer some pounds to much over some pounds too little...
And I say that as a 1,66 tall 70 kg girl..
Gennerally they should put most focus on healthy and normal girls!

to much of this: http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/flipbooks/img/shows/maxim_hot_100_2005/38_nicole_richie.jpg

http://www.hilary.com/fashion/images/skinny.jpeg

is probably what leads to this:
http://www.genciencia.com/images/anorexia.jpg

http://www.ih.k12.oh.us/hsschroder/Psyc/Eating%20Disorders/anorexic.jpg

I hope you dont get me wrong, I am totally against that young girls is getting pushed into their minds from everywhere that they should be starving themselves, to get atention.
And to some degree, yes, I think they should ban the skinny ones, and where there is a skinny model, there should be a chubby one too!
MORE HEALTHYNESS, BALANCE AND BEAUTY!
O_o
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]

Um, I think he meant the schools with the top athletic teams...not for academics. [/QUOTE]

"Top College" always means academics unless one says "Top Sports College." 'Tis my take on the matter.[/QUOTE]

Not in revenue generated. Your school list is a joke.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: "Top College" always means academics unless one says "Top Sports College." 'Tis my take on the matter.[/QUOTE]

No I meant sports and attendance. Most of the schools on your list are privately funded, so to call them a "top School" would not be valid in any case.

I was talking atheltic scholarships previously, so sorry for the mislead.

And yes Fake Greg, the income from those schools and the boosters that continue to donate also outweighs MusicMan's schools.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man[/QUOTENAME] wrote: I don't think anyone would consider SMU a "top" college. [/QUOTE]

The richest college in the state of Texas.


Amherst PLEASE!
Brown Ok, good school
CalTech PLEASE!
Chicago PLEASE!
Columbia Ivy League Private (Who Knows for sure?)
Cornell SAME
Dartmouth SAME
Davidson PLEASE!
Duke Duke is on my list as would N.Carolina
Georgetown More money comes from athletics than academics
Harvard Ivy League, see above
Haverford NOT A TOP SCHOOL, maybe in UK
Middlebury NOT A TOP SCHOOL, maybe in UK
MIT Nerds and Geeks
Olin Never heard of it
Pomona PLEASE!
Princeton Ivy League, see above
Rice More money comes from athletics
Stanford More money comes from athletics
Swarthmore NOT A TOP SCHOOL, maybe in UK
UPenn More money comes from athletics now
Washington University in St. Louis not as good as Washington State
Williams Huh?
Yale Ivy League see above

"Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc." are just okay in comparison.[/QUOTE]

The #1 college in America where IT professionals graduate happens to be the University of Texas. Sorry to shred your list.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FFFFOO>FreMe Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To some degree.. If that makes sence?

I think the whole idea of super skinny supermodels has gone totally out of controll.. Since when should it be a beauty-ideal to be unhealthy?
But on the other hand, I think that it is okay that there is Some skinny (not too skinny, though) models on the catwalks.. And I think so because there IS girls who is skinny, and cant do anything about it, and it would be discriminatng to bann skinny models totally..

It has always been what the "unreachable" that has been popular.. Decades ago, a girl with some pounds too much where a beautyideal, and that was back in a time where most people where too skinny.

But there should be as many chubby girls on the catwalks as skinny, and personally I perfer some pounds to much over some pounds too little...
And I say that as a 1,66 tall 70 kg girl..
Gennerally they should put most focus on healthy and normal girls!

to much of this: http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/flipbooks/img/shows/maxim_hot_100_2005/38_nicole_richie.jpg

http://www.hilary.com/fashion/images/skinny.jpeg

is probably what leads to this:
http://www.genciencia.com/images/anorexia.jpg

http://www.ih.k12.oh.us/hsschroder/Psyc/Eating%20Disorders/anorexic.jpg

I hope you dont get me wrong, I am totally against that young girls is getting pushed into their minds from everywhere that they should be starving themselves, to get atention.
And to some degree, yes, I think they should ban the skinny ones, and where there is a skinny model, there should be a chubby one too!
MORE HEALTHYNESS, BALANCE AND BEAUTY![/QUOTE]
Those last two pictures are very scary.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Fake Greg Brooks wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Not in revenue generated. Your school list is a joke.[/QUOTE]

Revenue generated means nothing. The only purpose for revenue when it comes to college is to cover operating costs and expenses. If a college can do that with low revenue, it's just as good as if it could do so with high revenue. A college is not a corporation or a proprietorship. Its goal is not to maximize profits for its owners. Retained earnings are recycled within the college, not distributed to shareholders through dividends.

Clearly you have no concept of the best schools in the country, for if you did, it would be parallel with mine.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]½Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Most of the schools on your list are privately funded, so to call them a "top School" would not be valid in any case.[/QUOTE]

This makes no sense. The top colleges in the United States are largely private universities.
Creativity can always cover for a lack of knowledge.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]½Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man[/QUOTENAME] wrote: I don't think anyone would consider SMU a "top" college. [/QUOTE]

The richest college in the state of Texas.


Amherst PLEASE!
Brown Ok, good school
CalTech PLEASE!
Chicago PLEASE!
Columbia Ivy League Private (Who Knows for sure?)
Cornell SAME
Dartmouth SAME
Davidson PLEASE!
Duke Duke is on my list as would N.Carolina
Georgetown More money comes from athletics than academics
Harvard Ivy League, see above
Haverford NOT A TOP SCHOOL, maybe in UK
Middlebury NOT A TOP SCHOOL, maybe in UK
MIT Nerds and Geeks
Olin Never heard of it
Pomona PLEASE!
Princeton Ivy League, see above
Rice More money comes from athletics
Stanford More money comes from athletics
Swarthmore NOT A TOP SCHOOL, maybe in UK
UPenn More money comes from athletics now
Washington University in St. Louis not as good as Washington State
Williams Huh?
Yale Ivy League see above

"Colleges like SMU, Texas, Michigan, USC, Tennessee, etc." are just okay in comparison.[/QUOTE]

The #1 college in America where IT professionals graduate happens to be the University of Texas. Sorry to shred your list.[/QUOTE]

You made 0 points in this entire post... :/

I'll give you another chance to clarify before I go off. When I say "top college," I am thinking what everybody else is thinking: academics. I am not ranking "the richest colleges in America." That is stupid and pointless.
Creativity can always cover for a lack of knowledge.
I'm not sure if it really matters how a college is ranked. I've worked with three Ivy League graduates - all had advanced degrees (these are the top Ivy League but I won't mention the schools, just to be nice). One was a very bad judge of character and was considered slow and ineffective by peers, one was a babyish tattletale that nobody trusted twice, and one had panic attacks and was extremely stingy.

Anyway, what you learn in college is just a tiny fraction of what you will learn after college. That is why it is funny to me that people feel "educated" when they graduate. I know I did. I was wrong!
Oh, yeah, back to the topic of these models.

Interesting response found on CNN this morning:
[QUOTENAME][QUOTE]CNN wrote[/QUOTENAME]
PARIS, France (Reuters) -- German designer Karl Lagerfeld on Wednesday shrugged off concerns about the fashion industry's obsession with ultra-thin models, noting countries such as France rather had problems with a rise in overweight people.

Madrid last month sparked a controversy when it banned excessively thin models from its catwalks after accusations their appearance may cause eating disorders in young women.

But the runways in Paris this week have been filled by girls with child-like figures and stick-thin legs.

"We don't see anorexic (girls). The girls are skinny. They have skinny bones," Lagerfeld told reporters after his show, which saw models parade out in tiny short dresses, barely covering their almost non-existent behinds.

Asked whether the fashion industry was to blame for eating disorders of many young girls who were starving themselves, the designer said: "No, that is something to sell papers."

The pony-tailed Lagerfeld, who has himself drastically shed weight, is presenting clothes for his Karl Lagerfeld label in Paris, as well as for fashion house Chanel.

The multi-tasking fashion icon edits books and shoots fashion photographs for glossy magazines, and also created a one-off collection for Swedish retailer H&M.

Lagerfeld said the rise in the number of overweight people in many countries was a problem.

"In a country like France, with 18 percent of girls in the (northern region of) Pas de Calais being too fat -- I think they needed more treatment than the zero-point-I-don't-know percent of the too skinny ones," he said.

It was not clear which numbers Lagerfeld was referring to. A recent survey showed almost a third of French people were overweight and 12.4 percent were obese, while around 5 percent were underweight.

Models presenting the Karl Lagerfeld collection paraded out in tight uniform style shirts, featuring tie-like lapels, others presented long floating transparent dresses with ruffles, wearing tights with large flowers on their thin legs.

Lagerfeld's comments came after other designers shrugged off fashion's responsibility for the hype to be skinny.

Designer Giorgio Armani has blamed stylists and the media for the fashion industry's obsession with ultra-thin women.

Burberry's designer Christopher Bailey said he was very thin but was able to eat like a horse, noting people had to be conscious and sensible about the issue and use common sense.

Copyright 2006 Reuters. [/QUOTE]

Well, at least there's some FAT BOTTOMMED GIRLS still out there!!! Figures they're in France.
Is there anyone else out there who is sick of these people who are that skinny and then say things like, "I don't work out, and I eat like a horse,"? Total crap! You don't get to be that skinny eating like a horse and not working out, even if you have a metabolic disorder!
Like Kiera Knightly, during Pirates I, who said that she was eating cheeseburgers and stuff and not working out...bull! I doubt she's ever seen a cheeseburger in her life!!
Formerly MHG
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Is there anyone else out there who is sick of these people who are that skinny and then say things like, "I don't work out, and I eat like a horse,"? Total crap! [/QUOTE]

I've eaten 4 Ding Dongs and 3 Mountain Dews today and it's only 2pm.
nah nah nah nah nah!!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm not sure if it really matters how a college is ranked. I've worked with three Ivy League graduates - all had advanced degrees (these are the top Ivy League but I won't mention the schools, just to be nice). One was a very bad judge of character and was considered slow and ineffective by peers, one was a babyish tattletale that nobody trusted twice, and one had panic attacks and was extremely stingy.

Anyway, what you learn in college is just a tiny fraction of what you will learn after college. That is why it is funny to me that people feel "educated" when they graduate. I know I did. I was wrong![/QUOTE]

This couldn't be more true. College is a whole lot of bullshit, no matter where you go. It's just an excuse to separate people by intelligence and financial status, to make it easier for employers, methinks.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Is there anyone else out there who is sick of these people who are that skinny and then say things like, "I don't work out, and I eat like a horse,"? Total crap! You don't get to be that skinny eating like a horse and not working out, even if you have a metabolic disorder!
Like Kiera Knightly, during Pirates I, who said that she was eating cheeseburgers and stuff and not working out...bull! I doubt she's ever seen a cheeseburger in her life!![/QUOTE]

I would love to disagree with you here, and I'm sure most people would...but there are, indeed, plenty of people like that. I've seen them with my own two eyes. I'm sure that even I could be like that, although due to my predilection toward physical activity, we may never know. But I do love to eat - and unhealthily, and yet I am very lean.

Think about it. While most of the guys who are in those Nathan's hot dog eating contests are overweight, some of the best ones are as skinny as a twig. Also, if you've ever watched that McDonald's documentary (by some guy who for some reason seems to have some major issues with McDonald's...maybe his parents were killed by a McDonald's delivery truck...), it features a Big Mac fanatic, who ate them all the time. Big Macs are pretty much acknowledged as TERRIBLE for you. You would never believe his diet from looking at his skinny frame!
Creativity can always cover for a lack of knowledge.
Right now, on my son's desk...is a half eaten box of famous amos chocolate chip cookies, a box of hostess cupcakes, and a bag of bbq potato chips. He is terrible with junk food, and loves pizza and burgers, I chastize him all the time. He is almost 20, is 6'1" and weighs 120 lbs! He looks like he hasn't eaten in a month. Its just the way he is!
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