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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mike Van wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Somehow, the censorship of mp3 sharing by a vocal intolerant few does not sound like Queenzone to me.[/QUOTE]
The reason why it is only "a few" is because most people here are ignorant. Just because a few people are aware of the many problems mp3s bring doesn't make them "intolerant". It means they're able to think outside of the box.
If Queenzone becomes a place that blindingly caters to the majority, regardless of any repurcussions a particular view would bring, then the vocal few who had opinions that differed from the norm would never be heard. Sounds like totalitarianism to me.
Any lasting positive change throughout history, however big or small, has come to fruition because someone in the minority spoke up. Why can't Queenzone be a place that listens to the people who are well-informed on this subject, rather than pleasing the majority simply because it's slightly more convenient for them?
The reason why it is only "a few" is because most people here are ignorant. Just because a few people are aware of the many problems mp3s bring doesn't make them "intolerant". It means they're able to think outside of the box.
If Queenzone becomes a place that blindingly caters to the majority, regardless of any repurcussions a particular view would bring, then the vocal few who had opinions that differed from the norm would never be heard. Sounds like totalitarianism to me.
Any lasting positive change throughout history, however big or small, has come to fruition because someone in the minority spoke up. Why can't Queenzone be a place that listens to the people who are well-informed on this subject, rather than pleasing the majority simply because it's slightly more convenient for them?
Most people here are ignorant? Even if that is true, it seems unlikely that the majority of people here convert mp3's to flac and share this on Queenzone. I have only seen a few occasions where someone complains about a "lossy flac" download on Queenzone.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mike Van wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Most people here are ignorant? Even if that is true, it seems unlikely that the majority of people here convert mp3's to flac and share this on Queenzone. I have only seen a few occasions where someone complains about a "lossy flac" download on Queenzone.[/QUOTE]
Well naturally everyone can't do it, if one or two people are doing it for enough shows. But judging by the number of people here who happily download mp3s without asking for FLAC, it's pretty clear that the majority of people here don't know that mp3 is worse than FLAC.
Lossy FLAC has happened... but it's a lot less common than mp3 ending up on audio cd. I've received about a hundred shows like this in my day. I've had to upgrade about half of my collection because of this. If the shows weren't shared here in mp3 in the first place, then people wouldn't have to deal with this.
Can't you see that mp3s are keeping people with rare recordings away? Imagine that you recorded a concert 30 years ago and wanted a bunch of people to have it in the best quality possible. You share it here, and then it ends being shared in mp3 format a week later, because the files are smaller. This is exactly the reason why many people have held back from sharing something rare. Just try to imagine how many great things we've missed out on. I'm not making this stuff up.
More than once, I was in touch with people who weren't collectors, but common music fans who recorded Queen in the 70s. Both refused to even trade the recording, because they were certain it would become mp3, although I did my best to convince them it would stay in good hands... but of course I couldn't completely prove it. Who knows who would get it, and yeah, the shows probably would eventually end up here in mp3. The recordings are still being hoarded, and I can't even mention which shows they are, because that was their wish.
Well naturally everyone can't do it, if one or two people are doing it for enough shows. But judging by the number of people here who happily download mp3s without asking for FLAC, it's pretty clear that the majority of people here don't know that mp3 is worse than FLAC.
Lossy FLAC has happened... but it's a lot less common than mp3 ending up on audio cd. I've received about a hundred shows like this in my day. I've had to upgrade about half of my collection because of this. If the shows weren't shared here in mp3 in the first place, then people wouldn't have to deal with this.
Can't you see that mp3s are keeping people with rare recordings away? Imagine that you recorded a concert 30 years ago and wanted a bunch of people to have it in the best quality possible. You share it here, and then it ends being shared in mp3 format a week later, because the files are smaller. This is exactly the reason why many people have held back from sharing something rare. Just try to imagine how many great things we've missed out on. I'm not making this stuff up.
More than once, I was in touch with people who weren't collectors, but common music fans who recorded Queen in the 70s. Both refused to even trade the recording, because they were certain it would become mp3, although I did my best to convince them it would stay in good hands... but of course I couldn't completely prove it. Who knows who would get it, and yeah, the shows probably would eventually end up here in mp3. The recordings are still being hoarded, and I can't even mention which shows they are, because that was their wish.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You are right about Ginger01, Sithmarauder :)
@ Sir Bob: I don't know how to solve this. Queenzone is not a filesharing website, it's a Queen website with a sharing forum. It cannot be compared with DAD or tradersden. [/QUOTE]
Only because that is how YOU want it.
If you suddenly said to the members "no more lossy" then you could compare yourselves to EVERY other site..Not just DaD & TTD.
QZ ranks in at suprnova qualities for most files.KaZaa in a different skin.
Maybe you should spend more time backing up the music(as that really is the point)..instead of who shares.
Sharing lossy IMO is not sharing ,its the same as taking a dump and letting everyone look at it.
I'm glad that my previous rants have made people use google to see why mp3,VCD etc are crap and should be kept for personal use only ,and that some members now see the importance of keeping files lossless supplying linage info when shared.
I wasn't talking to a wall then.
@Sir GH: Yep,i can see it being lossied up as well m8.
@ Sir Bob: I don't know how to solve this. Queenzone is not a filesharing website, it's a Queen website with a sharing forum. It cannot be compared with DAD or tradersden. [/QUOTE]
Only because that is how YOU want it.
If you suddenly said to the members "no more lossy" then you could compare yourselves to EVERY other site..Not just DaD & TTD.
QZ ranks in at suprnova qualities for most files.KaZaa in a different skin.
Maybe you should spend more time backing up the music(as that really is the point)..instead of who shares.
Sharing lossy IMO is not sharing ,its the same as taking a dump and letting everyone look at it.
I'm glad that my previous rants have made people use google to see why mp3,VCD etc are crap and should be kept for personal use only ,and that some members now see the importance of keeping files lossless supplying linage info when shared.
I wasn't talking to a wall then.
@Sir GH: Yep,i can see it being lossied up as well m8.
"Sharing lossy IMO is not sharing ,its the same as taking a dump and letting everyone look at it."
I would not look if I felt like this
For the rest I already posted in "Announce: 5 concerts"
I would not look if I felt like this
For the rest I already posted in "Announce: 5 concerts"
Wadya want?A medal
The point was stopping lossy files being shared.
By EVERYONE
The point was stopping lossy files being shared.
By EVERYONE
This is very frustrating...
Andy1962 has some fantastic tapes in his collection, and he has found an easy way to generously share his shows. He's made it pretty clear that he's relatively new to sharing music digitally, and he found an easy way to share files, which is mp3 format. Most people here - including him - don't know that mp3 makes the sound worse, so he is understandably taking it personally when a few people ask him to post his shows in FLAC.
Suppose he was a Led Zeppelin fan who had upgrades of recordings... he'd be going to Royal Orleans, Dime, TTD, or wherever else to share his recordings. At those places, he would learn that mp3 is a bad format, and everyone would agree. Anyone who disagreed would surely be banned from the website. He would thus be forced to learn how to encode FLAC. But not here... because we permit mp3s. This leaves the people with quality standards frustrated... and the people with no quality standards are clearly equally frustrated because we with quality standards appear to be "ungrateful".
Are we going to do anything about this? What will it take?
Andy1962 has some fantastic tapes in his collection, and he has found an easy way to generously share his shows. He's made it pretty clear that he's relatively new to sharing music digitally, and he found an easy way to share files, which is mp3 format. Most people here - including him - don't know that mp3 makes the sound worse, so he is understandably taking it personally when a few people ask him to post his shows in FLAC.
Suppose he was a Led Zeppelin fan who had upgrades of recordings... he'd be going to Royal Orleans, Dime, TTD, or wherever else to share his recordings. At those places, he would learn that mp3 is a bad format, and everyone would agree. Anyone who disagreed would surely be banned from the website. He would thus be forced to learn how to encode FLAC. But not here... because we permit mp3s. This leaves the people with quality standards frustrated... and the people with no quality standards are clearly equally frustrated because we with quality standards appear to be "ungrateful".
Are we going to do anything about this? What will it take?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]This is very frustrating...
Andy1962 has some fantastic tapes in his collection, and he has found an easy way to generously share his shows. He's made it pretty clear that he's relatively new to sharing music digitally, and he found an easy way to share files, which is mp3 format. Most people here - including him - don't know that mp3 makes the sound worse, so he is understandably taking it personally when a few people ask him to post his shows in FLAC.
Suppose he was a Led Zeppelin fan who had upgrades of recordings... he'd be going to Royal Orleans, Dime, TTD, or wherever else to share his recordings. At those places, he would learn that mp3 is a bad format, and everyone would agree. Anyone who disagreed would surely be banned from the website. He would thus be forced to learn how to encode FLAC. But not here... because we permit mp3s. This leaves the people with quality standards frustrated... and the people with no quality standards are clearly equally frustrated because we with quality standards appear to be "ungrateful".
Are we going to do anything about this? What will it take?
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Pissing against the wind,shovelling shit against the tide,raising the dead, downloading Drammen.
Well at least some people get what your trying to say.
Andy1962 has some fantastic tapes in his collection, and he has found an easy way to generously share his shows. He's made it pretty clear that he's relatively new to sharing music digitally, and he found an easy way to share files, which is mp3 format. Most people here - including him - don't know that mp3 makes the sound worse, so he is understandably taking it personally when a few people ask him to post his shows in FLAC.
Suppose he was a Led Zeppelin fan who had upgrades of recordings... he'd be going to Royal Orleans, Dime, TTD, or wherever else to share his recordings. At those places, he would learn that mp3 is a bad format, and everyone would agree. Anyone who disagreed would surely be banned from the website. He would thus be forced to learn how to encode FLAC. But not here... because we permit mp3s. This leaves the people with quality standards frustrated... and the people with no quality standards are clearly equally frustrated because we with quality standards appear to be "ungrateful".
Are we going to do anything about this? What will it take?
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Pissing against the wind,shovelling shit against the tide,raising the dead, downloading Drammen.
Well at least some people get what your trying to say.
Where's Serry?!