It was 80 years ago today, that jazz legend John Coltrane, father of the free-jazz and forerunner in the post-bop, was born. Although he tragically died of a liver-ailment in '67, his music still lives on.
Naima (1965) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6WwuxqXPOg
Impressions (1961, feat. Eric Dolphy) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUzFbT5JT1M
My Favorite Things (1961, feat. Eric Dolphy) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKOr7IkGlIs
Alabama (1963) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j_TDoOPnIA
I Want To Talk About You (1962, live in Stockholm) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuGkDmMVoi4
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Well like I said during the Freddie happy birthday threads and will do for the upcoming posts that celebrate birthdays of dead people:
"He's dead, so not really having a birthday at the moment."
There's no point in celebrating a dead man or woman's birthday. period.
"He's dead, so not really having a birthday at the moment."
There's no point in celebrating a dead man or woman's birthday. period.
There is a major point in celebrating a dead person's music, and a birthday is a good point to focus some attention to that. Christians celebrate the birthday of a guy who supposedly lived and died 2000 years ago, who left no works behind, and whom we know from what is at the best third-hand accounts.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There is a major point in celebrating a dead person's music, and a birthday is a good point to focus some attention to that. Christians celebrate the birthday of a guy who supposedly lived and died 2000 years ago, who left no works behind, and whom we know from what is at the best third-hand accounts.[/QUOTE]
Amen. And happy birthday, John Coltrane! :D
Amen. And happy birthday, John Coltrane! :D
Hey Caspar... besides John Coltrane what other Jazz legends do you recommend listening to.
I'm sort of new to the Jazz genre, so besides Louis Armstrong, Glenn Miller, and Ella Fitgerald I don't know that much.
I'm sort of new to the Jazz genre, so besides Louis Armstrong, Glenn Miller, and Ella Fitgerald I don't know that much.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey Caspar... besides John Coltrane what other Jazz legends do you recommend listening to.
I'm sort of new to the Jazz genre, so besides Louis Armstrong, Glenn Miller, and Ella Fitgerald I don't know that much.[/QUOTE]
Classic Jazz:
Billie Hoilday (lady day), Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Etta James (but she could be considered blues also, one my favorite!) Quincy Jones, Cab Calloway, Lena Horne...etc :)
I'm sort of new to the Jazz genre, so besides Louis Armstrong, Glenn Miller, and Ella Fitgerald I don't know that much.[/QUOTE]
Classic Jazz:
Billie Hoilday (lady day), Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Etta James (but she could be considered blues also, one my favorite!) Quincy Jones, Cab Calloway, Lena Horne...etc :)
You name mainly vocal jazz there, from which Dinah Washington, Bessie Smith and Billie Holiday are missing, IMHO. If you like the instrumental work as well, it all depends on taste:
If you're all for the 'laid-back' style, I recommend Chet Baker, Stan Getz, Lester Young, Lee Konitz and, a little older, the big-bands of Lionel Hampton and Count Basie. In addition, you could try Donald Byrd and Horace Silver.
For a more energetic type of jazz, you would be more interested in Art Blakey (& The Jazz Messengers), Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis' 1950s work, Dexter Gordon (very good idea), Sonny Rollins, Max Roach, Sonny Stitt, Bud Powell. John Coltrane's work up to "A Love Supreme" would go here as well.
Then, if you are ready for a bit of a challenge, and would like to try some of the more experimental jazz (mostly energetic, but sometimes really laid-back as well), try Charles Mingus, Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane, Eric Dolphy, Jaki Byard (a little obscure, though).
For the really experimental stuff (I wouldn't START here, but gently work towards it), you could try John Coltrane's work from "Meditations" onwards, Don Cherry, Archie Shepp, Bill Dixon, Cecil Taylor, Sun Ra, Albert Ayler, Don Pullen
It's all a matter of taste. Most swing is easily accessible, by the way, if you are looking for something which is decent music, but doesn't require too much work. Duke Ellington is a fine example (one of the most technically competent arrangers and composers of his day).
If you're all for the 'laid-back' style, I recommend Chet Baker, Stan Getz, Lester Young, Lee Konitz and, a little older, the big-bands of Lionel Hampton and Count Basie. In addition, you could try Donald Byrd and Horace Silver.
For a more energetic type of jazz, you would be more interested in Art Blakey (& The Jazz Messengers), Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis' 1950s work, Dexter Gordon (very good idea), Sonny Rollins, Max Roach, Sonny Stitt, Bud Powell. John Coltrane's work up to "A Love Supreme" would go here as well.
Then, if you are ready for a bit of a challenge, and would like to try some of the more experimental jazz (mostly energetic, but sometimes really laid-back as well), try Charles Mingus, Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane, Eric Dolphy, Jaki Byard (a little obscure, though).
For the really experimental stuff (I wouldn't START here, but gently work towards it), you could try John Coltrane's work from "Meditations" onwards, Don Cherry, Archie Shepp, Bill Dixon, Cecil Taylor, Sun Ra, Albert Ayler, Don Pullen
It's all a matter of taste. Most swing is easily accessible, by the way, if you are looking for something which is decent music, but doesn't require too much work. Duke Ellington is a fine example (one of the most technically competent arrangers and composers of his day).
A true musical legend, created music to inspire generations to come. Cheers
Eighty. Wow. How quickly time flies!
The master, a galactic musician, i'm happy cause he's now jammin with Miles and Hendrix, maybe Monk
God bless Coltrane
God bless Coltrane
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There is a major point in celebrating a dead person's music, and a birthday is a good point to focus some attention to that. Christians celebrate the birthday of a guy who supposedly lived and died 2000 years ago, who left no works behind, and whom we know from what is at the best third-hand accounts.[/QUOTE]
I won't get into a religious argument here, but if a message of "love, compassion, and tolerance" can't be considered a important piece of work, then you're blind.
Despite of what any one thinks about whether if Jesus was really the son of God or not, it doesn't really matter. What matters is that his work inspired people like Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King, and even Gandhi who was not a christian.
At least for what we know Jesus left on this world a lot more than just defending one sided views on a message board.
I won't get into a religious argument here, but if a message of "love, compassion, and tolerance" can't be considered a important piece of work, then you're blind.
Despite of what any one thinks about whether if Jesus was really the son of God or not, it doesn't really matter. What matters is that his work inspired people like Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King, and even Gandhi who was not a christian.
At least for what we know Jesus left on this world a lot more than just defending one sided views on a message board.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There is a major point in celebrating a dead person's music, and a birthday is a good point to focus some attention to that. Christians celebrate the birthday of a guy who supposedly lived and died 2000 years ago, who left no works behind, and whom we know from what is at the best third-hand accounts.[/QUOTE]
I won't get into a religious argument here, but if a message of "love, compassion, and tolerance" can't be considered a important piece of work, then you're blind.
Despite of what any one thinks about whether if Jesus was really the son of God or not, it doesn't really matter. What matters is that his work inspired people like Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King, and even Gandhi who was not a christian.
At least for what we know Jesus left on this world a lot more than just defending one sided views on a message board.[/QUOTE]
This was not a religious remark, it was putting the comment of the person who criticized me for bringing up Coltrane's birthday in perspective. What I make clear is that a legacy is enough justification for the celebration of a birthday.
I won't get into a religious argument here, but if a message of "love, compassion, and tolerance" can't be considered a important piece of work, then you're blind.
Despite of what any one thinks about whether if Jesus was really the son of God or not, it doesn't really matter. What matters is that his work inspired people like Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King, and even Gandhi who was not a christian.
At least for what we know Jesus left on this world a lot more than just defending one sided views on a message board.[/QUOTE]
This was not a religious remark, it was putting the comment of the person who criticized me for bringing up Coltrane's birthday in perspective. What I make clear is that a legacy is enough justification for the celebration of a birthday.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There is a major point in celebrating a dead person's music, and a birthday is a good point to focus some attention to that. Christians celebrate the birthday of a guy who supposedly lived and died 2000 years ago, who left no works behind, and whom we know from what is at the best third-hand accounts.[/QUOTE]
I won't get into a religious argument here, but if a message of "love, compassion, and tolerance" can't be considered a important piece of work, then you're blind.
Despite of what any one thinks about whether if Jesus was really the son of God or not, it doesn't really matter. What matters is that his work inspired people like Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King, and even Gandhi who was not a christian.
At least for what we know Jesus left on this world a lot more than just defending one sided views on a message board.[/QUOTE]
Good post, Jingles. I cannot believe John Coltrane is even being compared to Jesus. And this goes for any musician.
I won't get into a religious argument here, but if a message of "love, compassion, and tolerance" can't be considered a important piece of work, then you're blind.
Despite of what any one thinks about whether if Jesus was really the son of God or not, it doesn't really matter. What matters is that his work inspired people like Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King, and even Gandhi who was not a christian.
At least for what we know Jesus left on this world a lot more than just defending one sided views on a message board.[/QUOTE]
Good post, Jingles. I cannot believe John Coltrane is even being compared to Jesus. And this goes for any musician.
You realize of course, that John Coltrane has been officially recognized as a saint in the African Orthodox Church?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=purple>Miss James wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I cannot believe John Coltrane is even being compared to Jesus. And this goes for any musician.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, neither can I. John Coltrane and other musicians actually have reliable biographies which their legacies are derived from.
Yeah, neither can I. John Coltrane and other musicians actually have reliable biographies which their legacies are derived from.