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"Unfortunately, Brian and Roger also do not quite have the groove thing going on either."

I see this as a plus.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Ahhh I see, Freddie was the only one who had 'it' in the band..that's why if you take away the greatness of Freddie..Queen is nothing but a bunch of plodding white dudes who couldnt keep a beat if their life depended on it.

That's why Freddie's solo stuff is so brilliant.
Far surpasses anything Queen ever did.[/QUOTE Barcelona is brilliant and probably better than anything queen did in the eighties in my opinion.
"Barcelona is brilliant and probably better than anything queen did in the eighties in my opinion."

You copied that from another thread!

But back to the original topic.

I finally figured out why the assertion in this thread makes absolutely no sense. It's because it's *utterly* racist.
While I'd agree there are a whole lot of whities like me with no rhythm, you'd probably find people in every demographic with no sense of syncopation and what not.
The idea that a whole genus or ethnic type might be better at rhythm than another is shot to pieces when you take into consideration Jay Z - a black rapper with less sense of timing than an oyster.

I think you're just miffed that Robert Plant has more rhythm than you do.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Freddie's #1 Fan Forever wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I would argue that Led Zeppelin literally represents the antithesis of black music. For instance, while black music is soulful and spiritual in nature, Led Zeppelin music has none of these qualities.[/QUOTE]

So you define soul and spirituality now too, and your definitions of those things are the benchmarks that everyone else has to adhere to? Absolutely hilarious. This thread has become a joke. You bury yourself further and further with each post.

People call you ignorant because you are. You can't reply and call them ignorant, because they're simply not. They're proving you wrong. Calling someone ignorant isn't a personal attack. Ignorance is not a word with negative connotations. It only seems negative when it applies to yourself and you refuse to grow out of it.
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I swear this person comes off a lot like Arleen Weiss used to.

Remember her?

You remember how she would ramble on and on and use big words to try and sound clever but a lot of her stuff was just nonsense.
One point that I want to make here is that some white people have rhythm. Obviously the Bee Gees understood rhythm, otherwise they would not have been making disco music. Instead, they would probably be in heavy metal. Now, am I saying that the Bee Gees are better than Led Zeppelin? No, I am not. What I am saying is that they understand what rhythm is better than your typical heavy metal band.

I do not understand why Led Zeppelin has to be great at everything. Clearly, among other things, they had a great guitarist. They were a great hard rock band. But did they understand rhythm and syncopation like Jay-Z? No way! This is not to say that Jay-Z is better in every way to Led Zeppelin. I am only pointing out that different acts have different strengths and weaknesses. With regard to Queen, I feel that their great strength involves the fact that they were a hard rock band that understood rhythm. If other Queen fans do not appreciate this rare combination, then that is too bad.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I swear this person comes off a lot like Arleen Weiss used to.

Remember her?

You remember how she would ramble on and on and use big words to try and sound clever but a lot of her stuff was just nonsense.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but this person doesn't have enough... CAPITALIZED words and halting.. sentences!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Freddie's #1 Fan Forever aka Bitch4Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]One point that I want to make here is that some white people have rhythm. Obviously the Bee Gees understood rhythm, otherwise they would not have been making disco music. Instead, they would probably be in heavy metal. Now, am I saying that the Bee Gees are better than Led Zeppelin? No, I am not. What I am saying is that they understand what rhythm is better than your typical heavy metal band.

I do not understand why Led Zeppelin has to be great at everything. Clearly, among other things, they had a great guitarist. They were a great hard rock band. But did they understand rhythm and syncopation like Jay-Z? No way! This is not to say that Jay-Z is better in every way to Led Zeppelin. I am only pointing out that different acts have different strengths and weaknesses. With regard to Queen, I feel that their great strength involves the fact that they were a hard rock band that understood rhythm. If other Queen fans do not appreciate this rare combination, then that is too bad.
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The only combination illustrated here is your arrogance and ignorance.
Queen are not a heavy metal act. They're clearly more eclectic than most hard rock/metal bands.
To dismiss all others as not understanding rhythm shows a lack of appreciation of what music is.
All music has rhythm by definition.

[QUOTE]Rhythm covers everything pertaining to the time aspect of music as distinct from the aspect of pitch, i.e. it incl. the effects of beats, accents, measures, grouping of notes into beats, grouping of beats into measures, grouping of measures into phrases, etc. When all these factors are judiciously treated by the performer (with due regularity yet with artistic purpose—an effect of forward movt.—and not mere machine-like accuracy) we feel and say that the performer possesses ‘a sense of rhythm’. There may be ‘free’ or ‘strict’ rhythm.
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This thread is typical of Bitch4Freddie going on endlessly without any point or logical conclusion.
Jay Z *DOES NOT UNDERSTAND SYNCOPATION*. Or music, or rhythm, or whatever the fuck it is you were supposedly talking about. I suspect the man has cardiac arrhythmia and it impedes on his singing or something.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]"Barcelona is brilliant and probably better than anything queen did in the eighties in my opinion."

You copied that from another thread! how did you know that?....your actually right!...anyway, the original poster lost all his marbles by bringing up Jay Z. Are you kidding me?...

But back to the original topic.

I finally figured out why the assertion in this thread makes absolutely no sense. It's because it's *utterly* racist.
While I'd agree there are a whole lot of whities like me with no rhythm, you'd probably find people in every demographic with no sense of syncopation and what not.
The idea that a whole genus or ethnic type might be better at rhythm than another is shot to pieces when you take into consideration Jay Z - a black rapper with less sense of timing than an oyster.

I think you're just miffed that Robert Plant has more rhythm than you do.[/QUOTE]
Well it's a good thing I didn't put "don't quote me on that" on the end there...
Do me a favor and listen to Royal Orleans off the Presence LP.

Maybe that will shut you up about them not having or understanding rhythm.
It has a very syncopated funk beat dressed up in that Zeppelin style. Very James Brownish at points.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Do me a favor and listen to Royal Orleans off the Presence LP.

Maybe that will shut you up about them not having or understanding rhythm.
It has a very syncopated funk beat dressed up in that Zeppelin style. Very James Brownish at points.[/QUOTE]

But you mustn't forget, none of the guys from Led Zeppelin were born in or around Africa, so therefore they couldn't have any sense of rhythm.

Get with the program, man!
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Do me a favor and listen to Royal Orleans off the Presence LP.

Maybe that will shut you up about them not having or understanding rhythm.
It has a very syncopated funk beat dressed up in that Zeppelin style. Very James Brownish at points.[/QUOTE]

But you mustn't forget, none of the guys from Led Zeppelin were born in or around Africa, so therefore they couldn't have any sense of rhythm.

Get with the program, man![/QUOTE]

Love it!

As if anyone can have such a thing 'born' into them :P just look at our man Freddie. He wasn't so great in those early live recordings, eh?

This thread was satirical, right?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Do me a favor and listen to Royal Orleans off the Presence LP.

Maybe that will shut you up about them not having or understanding rhythm.
It has a very syncopated funk beat dressed up in that Zeppelin style. Very James Brownish at points.[/QUOTE]

But you mustn't forget, none of the guys from Led Zeppelin were born in or around Africa, so therefore they couldn't have any sense of rhythm.

Get with the program, man![/QUOTE]

But I understand they're quite fond of fried chicken and watermelon. That gives them just enough 'blackness' by proxy to have some rhythm, unlike other hard rock acts.

Everyone knows that no other heavy metal act likes fried chicken and watermelon, so it would appear our friend is right on the money.